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12-14-2012 , 02:07 PM

#1101

rjoefish

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12-14-2012 , 02:07 PM

#1102

rjoefish

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Updates: 18 kids dead, 8 adults dead (unsure if the 8 includes the gunman or not)

12-14-2012 , 02:07 PM

#1103

Cotton Hill

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If everyone had a gun on them higher % chance of the shots hitting the gun and deflecting the bullet?

12-14-2012 , 02:07 PM

#1104

Hamish McBagpipe

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The only time I've been shook up by these kind of things was the Dunblane shooting. 16 kids. This one's worse.

12-14-2012 , 02:08 PM

#1105

Case Closed

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Not really NSFW, but it's kind of sad.
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Last edited by MrWookie; 12-14-2012 at 02:20 PM. Reason: hotlink fail

12-14-2012 , 02:09 PM

#1106

rjoefish

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How would that pic be NSFW in any way?

12-14-2012 , 02:09 PM

#1107

Mondogarage

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Yeah, um....gun freaks don't get to tell us when it's okay to talk about reasonable gun control legislation.

We're pretty much up to one random rampant rampage a day in this country now.

12-14-2012 , 02:10 PM

#1108

Case Closed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

IIRC the gun nut crowd was all too happy to run around shouting how 9/11 never would have happened with armed passengers basically instantaneously.

They don't want to talk about gun policy after mass shootings and tragedies because the link between stupid/nonexistent gun policy and people/children senselessly dying is most salient at those moments.

I mean their response to mass shootings happening constantly in our society and having become basically an accepted part of living in America is...more guns. Really.

But they have the 2nd amendent! So your complaints are automatically invalid.

12-14-2012 , 02:10 PM

#1109

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Hill

If everyone had a gun on them higher % chance of the shots hitting the gun and deflecting the bullet?

obamanotbad.jpg

Speaking of Obama, almost no way he can keep avoiding the issue now. These things have been happening more and more frequently and this appears to be by far the worst yet.

12-14-2012 , 02:10 PM

#1110

Riverman

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Gonna be interesting watching the right wing media machine spin this one.

12-14-2012 , 02:12 PM

#1111

cres

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a guy straps on an explosive vest, detonates it to kill as many as possible. He's categorized as a terrorist and his compatriots are hunted.

American gun nut performs the same act with his gun, but we can't stop him. he has a constitutional right to bear arms.

12-14-2012 , 02:12 PM

#1112

rjoefish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Gonna be interesting watching the right wing media machine spin this one.

It's going to be pretty simple. It's the same as it is every other time.

Allow teachers to carry weapons in the class room and the first people that confronted him would have killed him and he wouldn't have done nearly as much damage.

12-14-2012 , 02:12 PM

#1113

joeyDizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondogarage

Yeah, um....gun freaks don't get to tell us when it's okay to talk about reasonable gun control legislation.

We're pretty much up to one random rampant rampage a day in this country now.

yah, why can't those right wing gun nuts in ct see the light?

12-14-2012 , 02:12 PM

#1114

Case Closed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

How would that pic be NSFW in any way?

It's not. But I just thought I'd put it in spoiler tags anyway. Maybe someone does not want to see some really sad ****...idk

12-14-2012 , 02:13 PM

#1115

13ball

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27 dead, 18 kids.

12-14-2012 , 02:13 PM

#1116

joeyDizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Case Closed

But they have the 2nd amendent! So your complaints are automatically invalid.

love it or leave it

12-14-2012 , 02:14 PM

#1117

Low Key

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornboy

Who said that?

This is a really bad comment, and people who are pro-gun do themselves no service by making it.

People mentioning one problem or concern doesn't mean that they are ignorant of the existence of other problems or concerns. I think we can all agree that mental illness is a root cause. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's the only issue worth talking about.

The implication is that without the gun, the thing never would have happened. It's a horrible way of looking at things like this. And many on the anti-gun side view it exactly like this. They seem incapable of understanding that crazy violent folks might find other ways of inflicting harm on innocent people without guns.

Hey, maybe we'd start seeing suicide bombers in America if we finally got rid of guns. That's be fun, right? Out with one deadly trend, in with another?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

JFC, it's a lot harder to make a bomb. You are stupid if you think that guns don't make it extremely easy to kill lpts and lots of people. The "but they could have used a pointed stick argument" is WOAT.

I think this is funny because of the crossbow murder(s?).

And is it really that hard to do? That guy who shot gabby giffords had his house all wired up to bombs, didn't he? Are you claiming he's like MENSA smart or something? Crazy person dedicated to doing harm to others. They gots the focus, yo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

Can you pick a crazy person out of a line up of other people? Because I'm pretty sure I can pick a gun out of a line up of other inanimate objects.

First off - wat?
Second - what is the implication here?
Third - if you're implying that you must be able to see visually the crazy in people, then this may be the single worst argument i've ever read in my life.

12-14-2012 , 02:15 PM

#1118

Mondogarage

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyDizzle

love it or leave it

Then quote it in full, and not just the parts you like.

Quote:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Reading comprehension is hard.

12-14-2012 , 02:15 PM

#1119

Case Closed

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CBS News ‏@CBSNews DEVELOPING: @JohnMillerCBS reports preliminary information indicates a student's father was CT school gunman http://cbsn.ws/live

Nope nope nope nope nope.

12-14-2012 , 02:16 PM

#1120

Riverman

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low key is amazing, literally wrong about every single topic he posts about. its ike on steroids.

12-14-2012 , 02:16 PM

#1121

Low Key

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

Not that i think crossfire is in the best interest of children, but how many times have we seen mass shootings in places where others might be carrying? Are the usually in places that don't allow law-abiding citizens to carry guns? I'm really just asking, not trying to make the point that you'll (not you specifically, you in general, all of us) assume I'm making.

ETA

oh, apparently tsao went ahead and made the point i wasn't making, fair enough

12-14-2012 , 02:16 PM

#1122

General Tsao

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Can't wait for the rationale behind how more guns would have stopped this from happening.

wat...I mean we have basically no details but it's probably safe to say this is how it went down:

step 1: crazy guy with gun enters GUN FREE ZONE REPELLENT SHIELD SOMEHOW
step 2: he starts shooting
step 3: adults in vacinity hear the shooting but because they followed the law none of them are armed to defend themselves and children
step 4: lots of people die as a result

so step 3 would be different if more people had guns there, someone would have been able to stop this guy before he killed 20 (+) people.

12-14-2012 , 02:17 PM

#1123

Cornboy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Case Closed

It's not. But I just thought I'd put it in spoiler tags anyway. Maybe someone does not want to see some really sad ****...idk

I think spoilering it was the right move, it's a terrible image.

12-14-2012 , 02:18 PM

#1124

Low Key

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

low key is amazing, literally wrong about every single topic he posts about. its ike on steroids.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low Key

There's no need to clarify how you might be wrong. It's better just to vaguely mock and move on. A sense of moral or intellectual superiority is a much better goal than helping educate someone ldo.