I think so and I feel like I've read that asserted by research somewhere, but I haven't read much of the research so I'm not sure exactly how important it is. It's definitely part of the explanation.

I think one of the potential problems with relying too much on that explanation is that these gender differences in suicide rates exist in Europe also (cf. OECD data) and I think it's possible the gun explanation is weaker in the EU? I'm not really sure though, even with fewer guns in general a gender disparity in gun ownership might be important.

There does appear (at a cursory glance) to be some research that also suggests men just make more "severe" attempts at suicide, even when controlling for the methods employed (2011).

I haven’t read anything he’s written but I’ve listened to a couple of his speeches. Jordan Peterson would say that men need a purpose like fighting a dragon and that without that purpose they feel suffocated by the modern world.

I’m really really good at everything

I agree. I didn't equate interesting with fame though, but with sensitivity.

Probably what we were all thinking when we heard Bourdain had died.

loooooool

After a Bourdain themed opening I was not mentally prepared for the rest of that post.

Sklansky?

just going to pop in with a comment about bourdain, as somebody who has a passion for cooking and was a fan of much of his material...an 11 year old daughter??? you got to be ****ing kidding me. like, nobody forced you to have a child, but once you did, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LOVE AND SUPPORT THAT DAMN THING. so now that he's killed himself, somebody else has to pick up the burden andf, more importantly, now his daughter will be traumatized at not having a dad anymore.

i'm generally very empathetic when it comes to suicide, because i've had those feelings myself, but jesus ****ing christ man. there is nothing more selfish than killing yourself and leaving young children behind who by definition (of being children) are ill-equipped to pick up the pieces of your failing. it's such an unebelievably ****ty and selfish thing to do, for me it invokes feelings of contempt in place of sympathy/sadness.

**** anthony bourdain

and yes i know that depression leads to feeling/acting irrationally (been there!), but this ****ing guy has every opportunity and every resource in the world at his disposal. piece of ****.

The way you casually hand-wave away what depression does as “feeling/acting irrationally” makes me think you haven’t actually “been there” in any kind of serious way.

+1

lol what an utter moron

Jesus rep. I generally respect the passion but that's about as bad a take as there is.

Severely depressed people are incapable of that calculation and their illness tells them their kid and everyone else would be better off with them dead.

Feel like rep's pants are on a bit too tight.

nobody forced him and his wife to have that child. he's punting on probably the biggest responsibility anyone will ever undertake in their life, and that makes him an *******.

no child is ever better off without their parent(s) unless said parents are actively abusing or exploiting the child.

people love to fall back on this "oh people with depression never think rationally" yet we still hold them accountable if they come home one night and murder their wife and kids. it's not a pass for behaving badly. he knew the rules, he signed up for it willingly. and now he's just like ahhh **** that, peace out guys. yea, sorry but not sorry.

honestly it would be better for a mod to delete the last 10 posts than anyone engage further with this

'suicide is selfish' is not a fresh take and everyone who isn't a total cretin knows why it's dumb, so let's just all move on

he allegedly battled depression for years and definitely had long stretches of rationality in which he could reflect on his life and his illness, so...where was that thought when he decided to start a family? that's a ****ing 20 year commitment. that kid didnt ask to be born and it didnt ask for him to be its father which is why any decent human being puts their child first no matter what. it's not like a person of reasonable intelligence, means, and self awareness, like AB, would find foreign the concept that a child with a developing brain would be scarred for life from the trauma and shock of one of its parents offing themselves.

i hate the idea that this guy is treated as some sort of victim when the world was literally his oyster, he had people who depended on him, and instead of continuing to seek help from one of the infinite places he could have gone for it, he chose instead to shove off his problems onto his 11 year old daughter and leave her with a bunch of unresolved questions and issues that she is literally incapable of addressing in a healthy way.

how about **** you dude, punting on being a father is what's truly selfish.

Maybe people would commit less suicide if you didn’t ignore everything I said.

Someone listened to The Dennis Miller Option so you don't have to

i dont understand what you mean by this.

I mean two things one is I feel that a lot of people feel ignored and are offing themselves and two I feel ignored except two is a brain malfunction because enough people responded to my posts to where I don’t feel ignored about it anymore.

Er, do you have me on ignore or something?

Youtube sucks ass nowadays. I can't even find Andy Rooney on Kurt Cobain's suicide. It should be the top hit for Andy Rooney.