I'm not saying he's a shill. I'm just saying that dismissing it on the basis of this being twoplustwo isn't really valid.

It is amazing how those most critical of Israel routinely overlook what Hamas does. They don't defend it of course or even forgive it. They just ignore it. They expect that Israel doing certain things will instantly empower moderates and by default dis-empower extremists. People forget the exact opposite happened after the Gaza disengagement in 2005. Hamas won the majority of seats in the PLC elections of 2006. Israelis understand that concessions often benefit Hamas because of their well funded media resources. You have Gamblor on here like a madman trying to convince how bad incitement is. Nobody wants to hear it.

It's not that. I think one of my first posts ITT I brought up how the people living in Israel did not consent to the UN resolution forming it. Gamblor writes back with a link saying not true, because there was a Jewish minority population that did want Israel formed.

You see he ignores the 80% of the people who didn't want it. And just brings up the 20% that did. He doesn't acknowledge another point of view.

He sees what he wants to see (Israel is righteous), and selects the information he wants to support that view, and ignores the rest.

Also;

Did I just see ITT that Israel does not recognize interracial/religious marriages? Is this true?

how does that make him a paid shill? Although i disagree with your assessment, that would just make him like 90% of people in this thread.

what?! no. they PROTECTED an interracial marriage that was being protested. the exact opposite (once again) of what you wrote.

WTF is this ****?

Who gives a ****? You know Israel has a lot of internal problems and issues between the different branches of the religion. What this has to do with Hamas raining bombs down on Israel is a mystery.

Oh, and they stone women in neighboring countries for using a cell phone, or for marrying the man of their choosing. But yeah, Israel is horrible because its extreme idiots are intolerant of mixed marriages, not unlike, say, idiots in the US.

GMAFB already.

Uh, wtf? Not even sure what you're referring to and the story in your post makes no sense anyway. In any event, this post betrays a profound cluelessness about how states are formed.

No states, let alone Israel, are formed by UN resolution. Once again, the UN is not a parliament.

The question is one of bilateral recognition. IS, for example, controls territory but is not a "state" de jure because nobody recognizes it.

Israel is a state to whoever recognizes it. The UN partition plan was a non-binding recommendation to resolve a territorial conflict that was never adopted by the parties so it's actually completely meaningless in every respect now.

It's also simply false. Israel recognizes mixed marriages.

I see the judicial process is working out splendidly in Gaza

21 Gazans slaughtered by Hamas in the streets.

The real question is when - not if - they will appear on casualty lists published by the Gaza ministry of Health. They will subsequently added to the conflict's casualty figures - which, of course, will be cited as a means to bludgeon Israel.

Here is the story. ISIS would be proud.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0GM11320140822

Israel has a lot of interracial marriages. The issue is interfaith marriages. The wedding they just protected was protested by some, but I think the state didn't consider it interfaith because the woman had converted to Islam.

According to brief research, Israel recognizes interfaith marriages, but one cannot have an interfaith wedding in Israel. Interfaith marriage is not terribly rare, but people must travel outside Israel to do it.

"Marriage" in general seems to be handled by religious groups as part of a system where some social regulation is divided so that each religious group governs itself in those matters. There does seem to be some kind of secular union that is a legal equivalent of marriage.

First those damnable telegenic dead Gazan children, now a slightly inflated casualty list? SO UNFAIR TO ISRAEL!!1!

Such hot takes.

so you support summary executions, interesting moral self-righteousness

How did you come to determine that I support summary executions exactly?

Shocked (not shocked) no comments or protests or anything about those executions on Facebook or Twitter or here or anywhere. Reminds me of the story about hundreds or kids dying after being forced to dig tunnels that was completely ignored.

Source for children being forced to dig tunnels?

Because the only point related to them you chose to address was the ancillary effect on civilian death counts, rather than the fundamental point regarding the "judicial system" being employed by the government in gaza?

Edit: re senorkeed obv

If this is addressed to me, I chose to address that because that is what Gamblor chose to focus on. I was responding to Gamblor's silly point.

Posted and discussed in this thread a long time ago, I guess you just ignored it?

http://palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/42605

On phone, so hope that link works.

An extra 18 people added to the casualty list here, publishing a fake sniper video there...who cares about the small lies?

I've read that and there is nothing said about children being forced to work in the tunnels against their will.

Yeah, I'm sure these children deciding of their own free will and volition to dig tunnels are really mature for their age and capable of making such decisions.

But -- if in some ******ed universe your sentiment possibly could have any validity -- if they got blown up by Israel while digging the tunnels, of course it would be there goes that horrible Israel deliberately killing children again.

Can your posts get any more comical?

Quoted for Keeed.

Yes. Senorkeeed supports the right of children to die while working in smuggling tunnels and the right of Hamas to use them to do so.



Simply disgusting.

Well first of all words have meaning and "Hamas is forcing children to work in terror tunnels" is very different from "Hamas is using children to dig their tunnels". When you say they are being forced it implies that they don't want to be digging the tunnels, which might be the case but I've seen no evidence to support that.

And when we start talking about can a child consent to work in a dangerous environment, that's like a child labor law question. It's not surprising that a place where circumstances are so dire has little regard for child worker welfare. But to the question of can say a 15-year-old make an independent decision to work in the tunnels? Can an 8 year old? Surely no. There's a lot of grey in the middle of that age range.