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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

09-26-2016 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
a black guy smoking a joint is "a magnet" for police attention that is "more than likely" to escalate towards violence.

Seems accurate, but people aren't disagreeing with you. They're saying that it's a problem.
So with that knowledge in mind,why do minorities continue to think it's in their best interest to resist arrest or act in a non respectful manner when a gun is pointed at them?

I am a minority,I've been there,but I understand much of it was my doing.

I also blame other minorities for perpetuating the problem.

We have a hard time policing ourselves,we don't try to help one another,we scoff at acceptable social norms.

Instead of fostering positive role models,we tear them down,calling it "acting white".

We want to act as we please,even when it affects others around us detrimentally.

We think it's cool to have no education,a prison record,a drug habit and limited earning potential.

We think we can change all this "unfair treatment" by changes in the law.

I think we could change it faster in our hearts.

But maybe I'm giving people too much credit.
09-26-2016 , 10:24 PM
Trump talks about the thousands of people killed by criminals in our cities and two plus two talks about a handful of cases in this thread often with incomplete information.

For caring more about the many lives of real people...

Trump +1





come on two plus two, we can do better.
09-26-2016 , 10:29 PM
Hey Trump hates the coloreds too hornbug, no one thought you weren't voting for him.
09-26-2016 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
So with that knowledge in mind,why do minorities continue to think it's in their best interest to resist arrest or act in a non respectful manner when a gun is pointed at them?

I am a minority,I've been there,but I understand much of it was my doing.

I also blame other minorities for perpetuating the problem.

We have a hard time policing ourselves,we don't try to help one another,we scoff at acceptable social norms.

Instead of fostering positive role models,we tear them down,calling it "acting white".

We want to act as we please,even when it affects others around us detrimentally.

We think it's cool to have no education,a prison record,a drug habit and limited earning potential.


We think we can change all this "unfair treatment" by changes in the law.

I think we could change it faster in our hearts.

But maybe I'm giving people too much credit.
I think this is kind of wrong in that the cultural aspect is not tied to white/ not white. It's low class/ high class wrt morals, ethics, and integrity.

I see what you're saying but there are a million scum bag whities that fit the mold as well. Generally, it's in the at risk community that fosters unacceptable behavior based on poverty. Whether or not that's an excuse is another discussion. I think most that behavior is driven by the nothing to lose approach.

You make a very valid point in that if you have guns pointed at you it's not very smart to show you aren't a punk. But that's natural selection 2016 I suppose.
09-26-2016 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Hey Trump hates the coloreds too hornbug.
And yet he supports policies that keep many more people alive year after year. You pull back the police working to stop criminals, an idea that Hillary would accept and more people die.

Keep your eye on the ball, which is keeping more people alive.
09-26-2016 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHammer
But you're not black. You have no idea what black people experience every day.
That'a not true and its racist. As a white person who works in the criminal justice system as a defense attorney, I do have an idea what black people experience. Certainly not in the same way that black people do, however, I also understand their experience in ways that many of them do not. For example, I understand how and why the criminal justice system generally imposes disproportionate punishments on black people.
09-26-2016 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
"If you submit and are respectful you might get assaulted by police but not shot" is not a great argument to make.
Sure it is.
09-27-2016 , 12:19 AM
People must remain calm with a cop waving a gun in their face but a police officer can panic and shoot an unarmed person.
09-27-2016 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
People must remain calm with a cop waving a gun in their face but a police officer can panic and shoot an unarmed person.
Yes and No. The Police are the police. That means if they order you to do something, even if objectively illegal, you are legally obligated to comply. If a cop tries to pull your car over you don't comply only when you think the cop is justified. You do it.

The unarmed people that are shot at least very one in the media have resisted and/or attacked the officer. Charlotte the guy was armed. Tulsa, the guy failed to comply with police commands.(not saying shooting was reasonable but certainly explainable). Michael Brown clearly attacked officer. Show me where the victim merely complied with police commands and was shot.
09-27-2016 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
But wait, were you smoking while black? If not we must be talking apples and oranges here
He said music festivals, though. So we're talking LongHairs and other disgraces to the noble and pure white race.
09-27-2016 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
I don't think it's directly an economic issue,it's cultural in some aspect.

Maybe even intellectual (but that is something we can't even bring up,the mere mention of that as a possibility is deemed offensive)

That's the problem as well,we cannot debate what the causes and solutions are if it at all might go against the premise that all people are equals.

We are all to be equal under the law,we all weren't created equal by birth.
here it is
09-27-2016 , 01:40 AM
conlaw,

In your context, committing a crime only becomes "committing a crime" after an arrest and prosecution.
09-27-2016 , 11:01 AM
For those not familiar to the site that conlaw linked to:

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
American Renaissance (AR or AmRen) is a monthly online magazine published by the New Century Foundation which describes itself as a "race-realist, white advocacy organization".[1][2] It has been described as a white supremacist publication by several sources, including The Washington Post, Fortune, and the Anti-Defamation League.[3][4][5][6]
09-27-2016 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
For those not familiar to the site that conlaw linked to:
Oooooops
09-27-2016 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by conlaw
Yes and No. The Police are the police. That means if they order you to do something, even if objectively illegal, you are legally obligated to comply. If a cop tries to pull your car over you don't comply only when you think the cop is justified. You do it.

The unarmed people that are shot at least very one in the media have resisted and/or attacked the officer. Charlotte the guy was armed. Tulsa, the guy failed to comply with police commands.(not saying shooting was reasonable but certainly explainable). Michael Brown clearly attacked officer. Show me where the victim merely complied with police commands and was shot.
09-27-2016 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
For those not familiar to the site that conlaw linked to:
Who among us hasn't linked to a white supremacist website?
09-27-2016 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
For those not familiar to the site that conlaw linked to:
Was that in the reply to me? It seems like it's been deleted. I saw the post yesterday but hadn't read it. I was going to respond this morning. I guess now I don't have to bother, but I'm almost curious what am. ren. article he linked.
09-27-2016 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
Was that in the reply to me? It seems like it's been deleted. I saw the post yesterday but hadn't read it. I was going to respond this morning. I guess now I don't have to bother, but I'm almost curious what am. ren. article he linked.
Co.lor of Cri.me.
09-27-2016 , 11:28 AM
ah. lol. Sadly I've looked at that.
09-27-2016 , 12:02 PM
His browser history must be delightful.
09-27-2016 , 12:03 PM
You should see mine!
09-27-2016 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
ah. lol. Sadly I've looked at that.
Some other hopefully banned poster has definitely linked it here before.
09-27-2016 , 03:22 PM
Danville, VA police have found a clever way to cut down on police brutality!

09-27-2016 , 03:27 PM
Chicago cops say, "Don't forget about us!"



Seems normal that 80% of cops can't work the dash cams properly (but always to their own benefit) I think it's still safe to trust them with firearms tho
09-27-2016 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Danville, VA police have found a clever way to cut down on police brutality!

Snopes rated it not true.

      
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