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10-23-2012 , 04:35 PM

#25201

Themaestrony

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Originally Posted by big gilute

lol only 7? is that all?

It's down from double digits a week ago

10-23-2012 , 04:36 PM

#25202

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am i correct in thinking nate's model is about two ohio polls away from shifting 20 points one way or another?

10-23-2012 , 04:37 PM

#25203

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

am i correct in thinking nate's model is about two ohio polls away from shifting 20 points one way or another?

How did you figure two?

10-23-2012 , 04:38 PM

#25204

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Originally Posted by Wynton

How did you figure two?

Meh prob about tree fiddy

(more of a figure of speech than exact number) Nate's model seems to be focusing a ton more on state polling, and basically only ohio.

10-23-2012 , 04:39 PM

#25205

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of course he is focusing on state polls.

10-23-2012 , 04:45 PM

#25206

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2008 Called. It Wants to Know What Happened to Barack Obama.

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One of the many little thrills of being a part of the Obama campaign four years ago was a deep and abiding sense that, finally, a political leader had come along who could live up to our highest aspirations. Yes, Obama was cool and played basketball and was conversant in ironical youth culture, but when it came down to it, he was overwhelmingly serious. The other guys were hauling unlicensed plumbers onstage and suspending their campaign at the drop of a hat, but Obama kept his eyes on the prize and played the grown-up. Now he's talking about "Romnesia.

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. His inaugural address—a deeply depressing read in light of the last four years—contained a stern admonition to those who insisted on sweating the small stuff: "On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises.... [I]n the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things."

That's the same guy who let loose last night, in the midst of a debate that was ostensibly about how many people we are going to kill over the next four years and under what circumstances, this little nugget: "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back."

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This is very, very dumb. Maybe "Romnesia" is a funny, handy term that usefully carries an important anti-Romney message. But even if it is, it is just too juvenile and jokey to be coming from the president. He shouldn't be making jokes based on his opponent's name. That's what vice presidents are for. Put it in John Kerry's mouth. He'll say anything.

But when Obama says it, it comes off as unserious and jocular. It's the kind of joke that, had a speechwriter proposed it four years ago, 2008 Obama would have smirked at and said, "OK guys, let's get down to work." The term, it bears noting, was apparently coined on Twitter by a guy going by the name of @breakingnuts. This is not how you put away childish things.

http://gawker.com/5954125/2008-calle...ium=socialflow

10-23-2012 , 04:49 PM

#25207

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presidents don't make sweeping plans, advisers do? Pres only do details?

lol k phil. Pretty sure this is the exact opposite. Presidents take the big picture, advisors take the smaller stuff and/or implement the "big idea"

You know I didnt say that.

So here is a quote by you that I know isnt real:

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

Yeah lol you guys got me I am wrong lol

Thanks for agreeing with me Ikes and it is great for you to admit you were wrong about this one. Maybe you really are a libertarian and not the biggest water carrying neocon for the Republican party on the forum after all.

10-23-2012 , 04:51 PM

#25208

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ike does not seem like the type to admit he is wrong. (even if he know's that he is wrong)

10-23-2012 , 04:51 PM

#25209

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

You know I didnt say that.

So here is a quote by you that I know isnt real:

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

Lol, presidents dont make policy like you are implying. They work with a team of advisers and while they get the final say most of it comes from input from others.

Their job is to remember the details of these plans however. Like 90% of a President's job is remembering details then communicating them to others and the other 9% is deciding which details to remember with a 1% thrown in for them having to make a snap decision in an emergency.

If you cant remember the names of the leaders of the countries of the world and where their countries are then you are gonna be ****ed when it comes to the hard stuff in the job, like the nitty gritty of these "well thought out polic[ies]". Around half of them will ring and congratulate you on your win within the first few days of you taking office.

i'm sorry if you suck at communicating.

10-23-2012 , 04:54 PM

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2008 Called. It Wants to Know What Happened to Barack Obama.

That guy needs to lighten up. Also, the "Romnesia" bit does make a serious point. As Greg Sargent notes,

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The “Romnesia” label is not just some gag. It is part of an intense effort to undermine confidence in Romney’s character, integrity, and trustworthiness on a very basic gut level.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...8962_blog.html

10-23-2012 , 04:56 PM

#25211

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pretty low even for Trump

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-pundit.html

10-23-2012 , 04:57 PM

#25212

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ike does not seem like the type to admit he is wrong. (even if he know's that he is wrong)

why do that when you can double down on crazy and then claim the title of moderate defending the poor oppressed extreme ideologues?

10-23-2012 , 04:58 PM

#25213

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what a ****ing scumbag if true.

10-23-2012 , 04:58 PM

#25214

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pretty low even for Trump

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-pundit.html

How is that any kind of scandal? "Their marriage was maybe at one time in the past possibly under stress." Ooooooh, how scary and unpresidential!

10-23-2012 , 05:00 PM

#25215

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Originally Posted by Ce1ska

pretty low even for Trump

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-pundit.html

lol wut?

10-23-2012 , 05:00 PM

#25216

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Yeah so? That's why having a well thought out policy is a million times more important than playing quiz games.

details like where Iran is geographically are important to the well thought out part. It's not about playing quiz games. It's about knowing what to do before the situation arises.

When your big whopper is that you are going to get Syria on your side and then all will be well when they don't even touch is just one example of how a policy can be off or ridiculous when you don't know simple things like geography.

10-23-2012 , 05:00 PM

#25217

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How is that any kind of scandal? "Their marriage was maybe at one time in the past possibly under stress." Ooooooh, how scary and unpresidential!

Divorce papers can be fun though. What was the name of the guy, think he was from illinois, who took his wife to a sex club? Republican. Had to drop out.

10-23-2012 , 05:01 PM

#25218

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Jack Ryan

10-23-2012 , 05:02 PM

#25219

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Originally Posted by kowboys4

details like where Iran is geographically are important to the well thought out part. It's not about playing quiz games. It's about knowing what to do before the situation arises.

And the point romney is making is about iran's influence in the area through syria, not the geography.

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When your big whopper is that you are going to get Syria on your side and then all will be well when they don't even touch is just one example of how a policy can be off or ridiculous when you don't know simple things like geography.

the policy is stupid regardless of Iranian location. Focus on that instead of the inane.

10-23-2012 , 05:03 PM

#25220

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Jack Ryan

lol thought that was it, but then was like no, that's a clancy novel.

10-23-2012 , 05:03 PM

#25221

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That guy obviously doesn't remember this.

10-23-2012 , 05:04 PM

#25222

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

Divorce papers can be fun though. What was the name of the guy, think he was from illinois, who took his wife to a sex club? Republican. Had to drop out.

Jack and Jeri Ryan IIRC.

10-23-2012 , 05:05 PM

#25223

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And the point romney is making is about iran's influence in the area through syria, not the geography.

the policy is stupid regardless of Iranian location. Focus on that instead of the inane.

He cited exports specifically. Nice try though.

10-23-2012 , 05:05 PM

#25224

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These explosive new divorce papers reveal Michelle realized Obama is gay for Jeremiah Wright after all but decided to hang on for the political gain, after consulting with her surrogate father, Jesse Jackson.

Signed,
Jerome Corsi