this appear to have solutions in them as well.... but hey what can i say, revots and I seem to be the only people to have read them

No, not really.

Didn't know you worked on video games, that's pretty cool.

FWIW, I still have literally no idea what rule by what school ikes wants changed. There's really nothing else to talk about until we figure that out.

Goofyballer grievance excised.

Just read the posted articles bro

Rofl dive in for goofy, who just happened to have a woman accuse him of intimidating her over an attempting sexually conquest... Something actuall relevant to this thread, but leave his stupid AIDS attack on me. Lol wookie

No, it's not relevant.

Yeah, revots was a much better cut man for you than goofy was for fly. He totally saved you from having to expose that you had no idea what you were talking about and can now just point to the article over and over again without exposing the fact that you didn't understand any of it.

Solid work for a cut man, no?

This post should worry you.

Phill you should go back to frothing over how the dudebros should all be expelled as soon as there's a complaint, and how someone identifying as a lesbian means they could never have consensual sex with a male.

You should learn to stop making stuff up.

When a woman says she is raped and is gay that is exceptional evidence it wasn't consensual.

I also said suspended until the accusor graduated iirc. Not expelled.

BYU girl gets raped, reports to Title IX commission at school, gets punished by the school

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/health...ape/index.html

That is so disturbing in so many ways.

When the story is that they were all going to do drugs but somehow only she did and then they raped her then it's very likely there are more victims as well.

They mention three other people in unrelated cases who reported to Title IX and got punished as well.

Seems that it's not just her. It's likely that her circumstances (taking shrooms, multiple offenders) were unique enough to consider it national news though.

Wait, are you suggesting that BYU is targeting people who filed sexual harassment/assault claims with honor code violations?

BYU has a super strict mormon based honor code that you agree to when you go to their school. I don't know the particulars of exactly how they dish out discipline, but I do know from following NCAA sports that they've doled out punishment to a football player who had a rival send in a picture of them holding a bottle of dom and a basketball player who admitted to premarital sex.

BYU seems to enforce this set of rules for everyone. I think that policy is ridiculous, but it's their right to setup those rules as a private institution.

way to stand up for BYU's right to (further) punish victims of sexual assault

a total surprise given your previous posting itt

The only logical way to enforce a moral code is total immunity for anyone reporting a crime.

There is no other defensible position.

It's great that you feel that way... surely you agree that it's within BYU's rights to disagree right?

What in the world are you talking about bro? People are saying it is extremely terrible policy to expel a girl for taking drugs when she comes forward saying I took drugs at some guy's apartment and was raped. It is!

hey man, gotta respect their right to make rules such as "if a woman enters a man's domain, she is a whore and will be promptly expelled", amrite?

I agree that it's a terrible policy. I would never go there and would never send my kids there. However, these kids went there voluntarily knowing full well what the rules they were subjecting themselves to, and the rules are not discriminatory. I'm not sure why I'm supposed to have a problem with Mormons setting up an organization that follows their crazy rules.

SuperUberBob was unclear about his complaint and seemed like he could think these punishments were retaliations for filing complaints. That would be extremely wrong but I highly doubt that happened.

Uhhh no one cares what you think

What do you mean by targeting? Obviously they are getting the information from the reports the victims file, which will disproportionately affect the filers. The impact is the same regardless of their motives (which I doubt are pure - it's not like victim-shaming in sexual assault is a phenomenon never before seen in religious circles).

But at the very least they are dissuading people who are victims of very serious, um, honor code violations, from reporting. You act like "if you report sexual assault, you will be immediately punished for any honor code violations therein" is the natural and logical extension of BYU policy, and thus everyone is aware of it. It's not, and they clearly aren't.

Plus, these kids are like 17 when they sign up to go to BYU, and many have been told it's the best place on the planet for most of their lives. Pretty sure they didn't make their decision to attend based on the (surely widely disclosed) rape prosecution policies.