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08-13-2017 , 04:41 PM
Clearly right wing America is too infatuated with nazis for them to think clearly on this issue, so maybe we should come about this another way.

Should ISIS be able to hold rallies, openly recruit members, and try to influence people to terrorize and murder American citizens on American soil?

Because that's what this hate rally was. It was terrorists recruiting others to their violent cause. Nothing more, nothing less.
08-13-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Here's a list of events today and tomorrow...

Stand in Solidarity with Charlottesville - Find an Event.

I'm not totally sure - I'm trying to get my daughter to go - lame, but it's hard to motivate to do these things by oneself, but maybe I'll go to Harvey Milk Park Long Beach at 730 or Holman United Methodist Church in LA at 6pm.

Anyone else?
08-13-2017 , 04:43 PM
I'm not sure what you guys think you are accomplishing by making a symbol of that girl.

her name was Robert Paulson


Her death is a tragedy. Dragging her around to help make your point is kinda sick imo.
08-13-2017 , 04:44 PM
Why didn't this guy's fellow church members and Pastor/Minister report him? I call upon all peaceful Christians to figure out what is going on.
08-13-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
I'm not sure what you guys think you are accomplishing by making a symbol of that girl.

her name was Robert Paulson


Her death is a tragedy. Dragging her around to help make your point is kinda sick imo.
LOL even after I ****ing clowned you for ending up here you couldn't help yourself
08-13-2017 , 04:46 PM
Poland wasn't the first nation invaded by the Nazis. It's just the first one the other first-class powers cared about.
08-13-2017 , 04:46 PM
lol freedom of speech basically

europe's take on speech >>>>> USA#24's

but muh freedumbs tho
08-13-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Clearly right wing America is too infatuated with nazis for them to think clearly on this issue, so maybe we should come about this another way.

Should ISIS be able to hold rallies, openly recruit members, and try to influence people to terrorize and murder American citizens on American soil?

Because that's what this hate rally was. It was terrorists recruiting others to their violent cause. Nothing more, nothing less.
That's a good point. I don't think these fair weather ACLU Free Speechers would be looking out for the rights of a march in support of sharia.
08-13-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL even after I ****ing clowned you for ending up here you couldn't help yourself
maybe you should stop clowning around when dealing with serious issues


unless you are just having fun with this

so far you have used the opportunity to advocate violence and the suppression of speech that you disagree with
08-13-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
That's a good point. I don't think these fair weather ACLU Free Speechers would be looking out for the rights of a march in support of sharia.
Just like with the Milo directing harassment campaigns against LGBT students, the left is letting the right make this about free speech when it clearly isn't. This is an issue about home-grown terrorists recruiting for a campaign of violence and intimidation.
08-13-2017 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
maybe you should stop clowning around when dealing with serious issues
You literally just wrote "Hath not a Nazi eyes" to pwn a lib for noticing you used an unequivocably antisemitic reference about the treatment of James Fields.

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unless you are just having fun with this

so far you have used the opportunity to advocate violence and the suppression of speech that you disagree with
Son you're on a path that ends up with first hand knowledge of what curb tastes like. This is a deadly serious issue, not a game. I'm treating it as such. I know white kids with mental health issues and developmental disorders get treated with kid gloves their whole lives, but there is **** wrong with you that you need to fix.
08-13-2017 , 04:53 PM
I don't get the Robert Nelson thing.
08-13-2017 , 04:53 PM
Edit: Here's the longer clip



I don't agree with the commentary though
08-13-2017 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
I don't get the Robert Nelson thing.
werewolf thinks the "say her name" thing is a Fight Club reference
08-13-2017 , 04:59 PM
Foxy friends defend the Nazi murderers. Nationwide advertiser boycott is the only way.

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-friend...-00d3648e06cc/


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“I think the president nailed it,” said co-host Pete Hegseth. “He condemned in the strongest possible terms hatred and bigotry on all sides as opposed to immediately picking a side out the gate.”

Indeed, Hegseth even went so far as to suggest that the white supremacists in Charlottesville may be making valid points. Though he claimed that their concerns do not justify “racial preferences or violence at all,” Hegseth said that “there’s always a grievance underneath it that it’s worth talking about.”
08-13-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
In order to deny the permit ahead of time you would have to show that the assembly will not be peaceable, which seems an impossible bar to clear...
Even if they're Nazis?
08-13-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Hath not a Nazi eyes?
That is something you should not have said.
08-13-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ShallowMalePig
Good thread.





Yeah he sums it up pretty well.
08-13-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Even if they're Nazis?
Of course?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...lage_of_Skokie
08-13-2017 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Foxy friends defend the Nazi murderers. Nationwide advertiser boycott is the only way.

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-friend...-00d3648e06cc/
JFC

Yeah, hmm, which side to condemn. On the one hand, Nazis. On the other hand, groups opposed to Nazis. Tough one, better go with condemning all sides.
08-13-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Even if they're Nazis?
Unfortunately yeah. Remember it is unpopular or offensive speech which needs constitutional protection. Non-controversial speech is permitted in even the most repressive regimes. That said, openly conspiring to commit crimes in a public forum probably crosses the line of politically protected speech. And clearly bringing weapons to the protest instantly made this an unlawful assembly.

The question now is what to do moving forward. I think confrontation will only make the white supremacists stronger. They'll gain much more media attention when they're having violent clashes with counter-demonstrators than they would when its just them and the cops. They have a right to speak. We still have a right to ignor. Meantime, its not impossible to believe that free speech/hate speech will come before a court at some point in the near future, maybe the Supreme Court. How would you expect this court to decide?
08-13-2017 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Edit: Here's the longer clip



I don't agree with the commentary though
Why not? I'm all sorts of OK with chasing these ****s off the public stage at any and every opportunity.
08-13-2017 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
I think confrontation will only make the white supremacists stronger.
I feel like Baked Alaska came out of this less strong than before.
08-13-2017 , 05:36 PM
Half baked?
08-13-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
It's hard for a Brit to get his head around why the constitution is held to be so sacred (apart from reasons of heritage) when it allows the election of a Trump figure who is terminally untrustworthy, unopposable in practical terms and who, with his finger on the nuclear button, has power of life and death over most of the planet.

I thought it was this kind of scenario (unrestrained abuses of government power) that the constitution was designed to prevent (though I'm probably wrong).
Rule of law is the most important thing in any large organized society imo. Having our rights enshrined in a sacred document is a good thing.

Trump is not unstoppable. He isn't getting his way on most things. Even his first Muslim ban was a half measure compared to what he wanted. Do you think Trump wants undocumenteds to have their day in court? Do you think he wants to wait for Congress to repeal Obamacare or fund the wall? The Constitution stymies his agenda bigly.

Idk what you mean by the Constituion "allows the election of a Trump figure." Any democracy allows it. The constitutionality of the President's power over nuclear weapons is far from a settled issue. It's being challenged even now.

      
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