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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Hard proof that Dvaut's Megyn Kelly, pretty white girl thesis is 100% correct.
Using this as a jumping off point. Since it should inspire tons of curiosity (but usually goes unremarked on) that literally ~every single one of the neo-Nazi/Confederate alt-right types are men. That women are very hard to find in the movement. I'm sure there are some. But check out the media images of the torch bearing dudes in Charlotesville. Yeah, they're all white, sure. But they're also all
men.
In the recent thread about the Manchester I pointed out that low-status males fretting about their sexual value and how it fuels right-wing rage are really a similar phenomenon to what I was describing about pretty white girls.
You seem to understand the point about Megyn Kelly but disagree the sexual anxiety fueling right-wing idiots. From Muslim death cults like ISIS to #MAGA.
That is, you seen to agree that Trump can bully and abuse a wide array of people but social revulsion will start to build as the sexual value of the targets grows higher. Society will go to great lengths to protect and aggrandize fertile, sexually attractive young women. And we all intuitively get that.
Now, then: it stands to reason there are other sides of the sexual value spectrum. People on the low end. All I want to get across is that is intuitive too, and we can usually all guess who sits on the low end of the sexual value spectrum: yes, I'm looking at the basically disposable cosplay tough guys of the altright movement. I was accused of taking the red pill (by you!
) of pointing this out, despite the fact I'm not at all defending the mentalities behind any of this. I think Donald Trump is just as boorish when he criticizes Muslim refugees as I do when he criticizes Megyn Kelly. But clearly huge swaths of society draw the line after Muslim refugees but before Megyn Kelly.
When I point that out, you seem to agree. So you should agree with me too then that these dudes running over protestors, jerking off to anime, and trying to terrorize racial minorities -- there's a very clear sexualized aspect to all of this. It's not the only thing worth remarking on. It's surely not even their principle remarkable characteristic.
But if you recognize the inherent truth to the fact that pretty white girls have high social standing due to their perceived sexual value, and it's something we all kinda recognize even if intuitively, so too can you presumably imagine cohorts that have low social standing due to their lack of perceived sexual value. And how that might influence behavior in the same way tons of people leapt to defend Megyn Kelly's honor while they shrugged as Trump insulted billions of people.
Here, let's put faces to the names:
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That we all know that these guys mostly won't breed is not lost on the participants themselves. It is not critical to point out, merely interesting. It changes nothing about the moral calculation of marching around being a white supremacist *******. They deserve no quarter.
Still, I think it's worth considering a little bit how it's a factor.