you read my ****ing mind

I think you guys might be talking past each other here. I don't think anyone thinks the guy will get literally acquitted. They think he will get off because the jury is hung (if it gets to that point).

Often people will confuse that with acquittal (obviously not you, but those arguing against you) and possibly use it incorrectly, but I suspected if you questioned them you would find that they don't mean to say that they think 12 people will unanimously vote not guilty.

I'd say chances of acquittal are ~0, however odds on walking because of a hung jury (or for a reason other than acquittal) are non-zero and higher than we would all like to think.

ETA: I certainly could be wrong and it's possible that people really think he could get acquitted. I'm kind of grunching here.

You don't "walk" when there is a hung jury though. You get tried again. You can get tried again multiple times. I think there is a huge misunderstanding amongst americans in general and people in this thread, who think a "hung jury" means the person "walks" or "gets off." Thats simply not how the system works. It would be a truly ludicrous system if it required 12 unanimous jurors to convict, but only 1 to effectively acquit.

If it's one thing they know how to do, it's to latch onto things. Take the word "leftist" and work your way down.

Well, you're going to have to convince him to change it. I'm not allowed to.

The fat Richard Spencer pic is excellent:

jmann- Two things I'm thinking about when I talk about the chance to hang this are the Oregon militia guys getting nullified all the way and the Oklahoma guy who has gotten hung 3 times for killing his daughter's black boyfriend.


Now, yeah, this is different. Everything is different. But Instapundit was a ****ing LAW PROFESSOR and he tweeted about running over protestors. 80/20 is great until you remember that the jury pool is going to be more like 60/40 and also you only need one.

The ACLU of Virginia's twitter account(and like, legitimately, that organization appears to have been compromised) tweeted about a witness who told them somebody threw a rock at a grey Mustang.

Just wait. It'd be wonderful if this went smoothly, but we live in the zone now. Nothing is forbidden.

So how does this work exactly? The elected commonwealth attorney in Charlottesville just says **** it, we aren't going to retry the hung jury of a nazi who came to our town to commit a terrorist attack? I'm guessing no, there will be as many retrials as it takes to secure a conviction of this pos.

It is funny that I suspect the typical racist has roots in the us that are much more shallow than the average black person.

OTOH the dude's Facebook is full of straight up Nazi ****, he might have some federal jeopardy here

Gotta be like an 80% chance he cops to it, even brags about it as an act of heroism.

I'm sorry I wasn't explicit, but I meant it would get hung repeatedly. I think after 3 hung juries they either give up or try something else. I don't think they would go in perpetuity, although they theoretically could.

I didn't mean to imply they would stop after a single hung jury.

I don't have any numbers, but Trump is pretty popular in Israel by virtue of being anti-Islam + not being Obama.

In my home game, which was filled with wealthy "white jews" (aka ashkenazi), Obama was refered to as an Islamic agent and Trump usually got the "well he's not my cup of tea but..." treatment.

see my response above. There are more than a handful of cases where jury gets hung more than once and prosecutor decides it's just not going to happen. Then the perp walks. I should have been clearer.

We're going to need a TR after your next home game. What's their defense when he fails to condemn literal nazis.

I've lived in Northern Virginia for almost 40 years now. And while most of Rte 29 is called Lee Hwy., much of Rte 29 running through Arlington is called Old Dominion Dr., but then changes back to Lee Hwy. after 5 miles or so. Then once you reach Falls Church, it changes to Washington St., and then back to Lee Hwy after 3 or 4 miles. And it is never referred to as the Robert E. Lee Hwy - although that may be its' once official name. Nor have I ever heard or read anywhere about a movement to change that name.

If indeed you wanted to change the zillion or so roads and streets around here that have Confederacy-related names, you'd have a s**ton of street signs & maps to change.

And fwiw, Lee Hwy. does not run past the Pentagon. It begins in Rosslyn, about a mile or so N of the Pentagon. And if you follow it for 2+ hours or so, you will eventually wind up in Charlottesville and drive past UVA.

You think Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is going to throw the book at someone trying to defend the statue of a confederate icon?

wat?

...but if they try multiple times and still don't get a conviction, the prosecutors will eventually give up and the guy does walk, right?

ok, they don't lose.

Undoing mod action, imo.

I know this won't happen, but every presser and interview from now on should repeat these questions, even if it's months from now, until he gives a straight answer.

I'm pretty sure he posted explicit consent for you do this, so I don't think that reason really applies.

It's not like he's trying the case. In any event, the AG typically has way less involvement in cases than the deputy AG, who in this instance is Jewish. Imo throwing the book at a Nazi murderer is right up his alley.

Sessions can have as little or as much involvement as he wants. If he wants it to go nowhere, then it won't, regardless of which US attorney is actually handling the case.

I hope they refuse to accept a hung jury if it happens. I don't care if we're on our 10th retrial in 2025, keep trying this racist piece of **** until you get a conviction.