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04-09-2012 , 11:17 PM

#501

[Phill]

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at first i was like "last funny thing i heard about AZ was the period abortion law"

then i :frown: at not getting more new lulz.

whats up with AZ, its like a weird perfect storm to create extraordinary right wing legislation. Even the place where they pass laws without taking votes cant top AZ.

04-09-2012 , 11:18 PM

#502

LirvA

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I couldn't believe it when I heard they legalized medicinal marijuana.

I haded a sad cause I was like, wtf ARI****ingZONA legalized it medicinally? Oklahoma? uh yeah, not gonna be doing anything like that for a loooooong ****ing time

04-09-2012 , 11:46 PM

#503

will1530

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2017902194.html

This is fairly funny, parents are revolting against MSP exams.

04-10-2012 , 03:05 AM

#504

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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I want to make a thread out of this AOL sells $1billion worth of patents with the title "Patently absurd", but that is about all I have. I put it here because that title is too good to waste imo.

04-10-2012 , 06:52 AM

#505

[Phill]

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Holy crap at 800 patents for 1 billion dollars. Are they patents for alchemy so MS can turn lead into gold?

Then again google bought Motorola mainly for their patent portfolio at a 12.5 billion dollar ticket, so its not quite the craziest patent buy ever.

04-10-2012 , 07:24 AM

#506

Huehuecoyotl

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1407329.html

Quote:

A Wisconsin law that made it easier for victims of wage discrimination to have their day in court was repealed on Thursday, after Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) quietly signed the bill.

The 2009 Equal Pay Enforcement Act was meant to deter employers from discriminating against certain groups by giving workers more avenues via which to press charges. Among other provisions, it allows individuals to plead their cases in the less costly, more accessible state circuit court system, rather than just in federal court.

In November, the state Senate approved SB 202, which rolled back this provision. On February, the Assembly did the same. Both were party-line votes in Republican-controlled chambers.

04-10-2012 , 09:02 AM

#507

VayaConDios

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Breivik found sane as part of his second evaluation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17663958

If the story is correct it will be up to the judge whether to treat him as sane for purposes of his punishment

04-10-2012 , 09:27 AM

#508

brad2002tj

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Pretty awesome, Nigerian fee scammers have moved on to lawyers now.

Quote:

Good Morning,

I am Tom Prodromou , soliciting your representation on behalf of Prodromou and Co Textiles Limited. We got your contact from the lawyer referral service and as such we need your counsel in litigation to collect a debt owed in the amount of $700.000.00USD by a delinquent seller in your region. We prefer to established Our presence in your state via a legal representative, Thereby forcing the seller to comply with payment request as effort made for refund has proven to be abortive.

Find Below the location of the delinquent seller for you to run a conflict check Please send your retainer agreement for my review thereafter.

A J Rod Company, Ltd
[info removed]

We ordered Machinery Equipments worth $1,400,000.00, of which 50 percent of the funds was demanded before delivery. Payment to the seller was made in September of 2011 and calculation shows that delivery is above three Months late, The regular purchase agreement requires seller to effect goods not later than 60 days upon payment or legal action may be enforced if delivery delay exceeds 90 days.

I will forward you supporting documents i.e., proof of payment, sales invoice and wire transfer slip once your retainer agreement is signed.

I look forward to your prompt response and your retainer agreement

Regards,
Tom Prodromou .
Managing Director
Prodromou and Co Textiles Limited
Houghton Street
London, WC2A 2AE
United Kingdom.
Tel:+44-798-452-5486
Fax: 448091740719
www.prodromoutextiles.org

Apparently some lawyers have fallen for this for hundreds of thousands of dollars, mainly older lawyers who have never heard of Nigerian scams I guess.

04-10-2012 , 09:50 AM

#509

JayTeeMe

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I don't get it. How do they get money from the lawyer?

04-10-2012 , 09:50 AM

#510

Namath12

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Dogs > *

04-10-2012 , 09:53 AM

#511

brad2002tj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

I don't get it. How do they get money from the lawyer?

http://law.about.com/od/riskmanageme...On-Lawyers.htm

Quote:

Steps in the Scam

Initial contact.
The attorney receives an email from someone who claims to be working in another country who needs help with a legal problem. The emails usually say "in your jurisdiction" rather than specifying the state where the legal issue is based.

The Legal Problem.
The sender of the email needs help collecting on a judgment, a contract, or a divorce settlement agreement (usually called a "Collaborative Law Participation Agreement" in the emails, though some seem to have dropped that term).

Bad Grammar.
Note that the email usually contains grammatical errors, though not always.

Easy work.
The debt is described as being easy to collect by simply sending a demand letter. In some cases, the email sender says the debtor has already agreed to pay, and the lawyer's job is simply to serve as the intermediary for the transaction.

Quick Payment.
As predicted by the client, the opposing party quickly pays the money owed with a corporate check. The check is made out to the lawyer, to be deposited into trust. The lawyer will then take his own fees from the trust account transaction, and pay the balance to the client.

Client is desperate to meet a deadline.
Due to a pressing demand such as a medical emergency or a property closing deadline, the client pressures the attorney into wiring the money to the client's bank account. If the client agrees to take a check, the client needs it sent fast. The attorney sees that the deposit has posted to his trust account and presumes that the funds have cleared, so the attorney wires the money to the client's bank account.

Bad news.
A few more days pass, or maybe even a couple of weeks go by, before the attorney gets some bad news: the check has bounced and the money has been debited back out of the lawyer's trust account. In most cases, the check was a forgery.

At this point, the client has vanished. The account that the lawyer wired the money to has closed, or at least no longer has any funds in it. And the lawyer's trust account is either overdrawn or at least substantially depleted of hundreds of thousands of dollars that the lawyer has to replace out of his own pocket.

04-10-2012 , 09:54 AM

#512

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

I don't get it. How do they get money from the lawyer?

The company that's supposed to owe money to the "client" sends the lawyer a check. The lawyer deposits the check, keeps his retainer, then forwards the balance to the client once the check clears. Then the check turns out to be forged.

04-10-2012 , 10:00 AM

#513

JayTeeMe

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So do you have to use a ******ed bank that posts funds to your account from non-cleared checks?

04-10-2012 , 10:03 AM

#514

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

So do you have to use a ******ed bank that posts funds to your account from non-cleared checks?

All clearing a check means is that the check is drawn on an account with sufficient funds. A forged check will clear.

04-10-2012 , 10:04 AM

#515

FlyWf

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AFAIK every bank does that.

04-10-2012 , 10:06 AM

#516

brad2002tj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

So do you have to use a ******ed bank that posts funds to your account from non-cleared checks?

This scam has been going on for 20 years, and it works if you have a dumb enough victim.

04-10-2012 , 10:15 AM

#517

miajag

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I had a client recently who got scammed for 50k or so by some African posing as an American soldier who was recuperating from war injuries in Ghana, for some reason. Fell for it hook line and sinker. After she finally found out (she was wiring him money weekly for like a year) and was in my office to sign her bankruptcy paperwork (obv) she showed me a new e-mail she had gotten from someone in Malaysia offering her 18k to do the standard bank transfer thing, asking me if she should do it. My reaction was pretty much my avatar pic.

04-10-2012 , 10:16 AM

#518

JayTeeMe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

All clearing a check means is that the check is drawn on an account with sufficient funds. A forged check will clear.

Oh, i see.

Couldn't I do this scam solo, wire the money to myself and leave the bank as the one holding the bag?

04-10-2012 , 10:20 AM

#519

brad2002tj

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As long as you don't mind going to jail.

These guys live in Nigeria and are protected from prosecution by the Nigerian government, but they need facilitators with bank accounts and money.

04-10-2012 , 10:22 AM

#520

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

Oh, i see.

Couldn't I do this scam solo, wire the money to myself and leave the bank as the one holding the bag?

You'd have to be willing to disappear and like leave the country afterwards.

04-10-2012 , 10:27 AM

#521

JayTeeMe

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Obviously I'd move to Nigeria and live it up with my $1.4M

04-10-2012 , 10:48 AM

#522

brad2002tj

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Ozzie Guillen suspended by MLB for saying he loves Fidel Castro...doesn't seem right.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T4RH2-xSSfM

04-10-2012 , 10:57 AM

#523

JayTeeMe

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Suspended by the Marlins. Big difference

04-10-2012 , 11:01 AM

#524

brad2002tj

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Yeah, I guess you are right. He has to take his medicine from the local community. They will make him double think so he can keep his job.

04-10-2012 , 11:05 AM

#525

Case Closed

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lol Ozzie, enjoy all that Marlins

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