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12-12-2017 , 12:04 PM

#1626

Namath12

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Originally Posted by Rococo

Exactly the wrong approach.

What approach would you recommend that you think has a chance of succeeding? Appeal to reason?

12-12-2017 , 12:31 PM

#1627

ScreaminAsian

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12-12-2017 , 12:46 PM

#1628

Rococo

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Originally Posted by Namath12

What approach would you recommend that you think has a chance of succeeding? Appeal to reason?

I don't have a magic bullet. I guess that I am in favor of perpetual talk therapy, with the understanding that it may take decades to create lasting change.

Also, as you know, there are a lot of good people everywhere. Even if Alabama, a lot of people vote the right way and believe the right things. Complete economic disengagement punishes the good and the bad in equal measure.

I'm all for selective disengagement. If you live in Alabama, and one of the two local hardware stores has a Roy Moore sign in the window, then by all means, go to the other hardware store.

12-12-2017 , 12:51 PM

#1629

jjshabado

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Originally Posted by Rococo

I don't have a magic bullet. I guess that I am in favor of perpetual talk therapy, with the understanding that it may take decades to create lasting change.

Also, as you know, there are a lot of good people everywhere. Even if Alabama, a lot of people vote the right way and believe the right things. Complete economic disengagement punishes the good and the bad in equal measure.

I'm all for selective disengagement. If you live in Alabama, and one of the two local hardware stores has a Roy Moore sign in the window, then by all means, go to the other hardware store.

Isn't this the same thing? Avoiding / boycotting Alabama and Alabama companies means more engagement / business for States that don't engage in this backwards ass / corrupt ****.

12-12-2017 , 01:00 PM

#1630

bobman0330

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As with so many other issues, the answer is more permissive zoning/development policies in major cities, so that the good people can get out of Alabama and live in better places.

12-12-2017 , 01:29 PM

#1631

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

PredictIt has Jones at 30% chance to win. I was surprised he was that high, he really have that much of a chance?

Feel like the deplorables bring this home for Moore 10 times out of 10. This is Alabama.

Yeah. 30% is pretty generous. Maybe PredictIt doing what Nate did and heavily factoring in potential variance.

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Originally Posted by phillydilly

in that case, if you haven't seen it yet, avoid the luntz/vice Alabama voter group at all costs.

And those were deplorables on their best behavior. Once the cameras were off, they probably started discussing Soros and international Zionist conspiracies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafja

predictions?

I've got Moore winning by 6 points, because the world is bad and nothing good ever happens, especially in Alabama. also hoping by being as pessimistic as possible I can somehow reverse-jinx a miracle.

Personally, I think 6 is the minimum. This is gonna be like Trump where all the people claiming to be undecided are Moore supporters who don't want to admit it to anybody.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

and. here. we. go.

****-ton of old white people there I bet. Everybody else has work to do.

12-12-2017 , 01:51 PM

#1632

Vecernicek

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12-12-2017 , 02:12 PM

#1633

master3004

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Anybody know what's causing the Jones rise on Predicit in the last hour?

12-12-2017 , 02:13 PM

#1634

eyebooger

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Reports of high turnout?

12-12-2017 , 02:14 PM

#1635

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by master3004

Anybody know what's causing the Jones rise on Predicit in the last hour?

Reports of high turnout, I'm guessing.

Last edited by Trolly McTrollson; 12-12-2017 at 02:15 PM. Reason: Also: reports of pony fraud

12-12-2017 , 02:16 PM

#1636

SenorKeeed

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Probably looking at turnout, which seems high in pro-Jones areas.

12-12-2017 , 02:18 PM

#1637

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

As with so many other issues, the answer is more permissive zoning/development policies in major cities, so that the good people can get out of Alabama and live in better places.

... I can't tell if this is a serious reply or not, but if it is, do you have any reading sources on this? It sounds interesting but it's an argument I've never heard before.

12-12-2017 , 02:25 PM

#1638

markksman

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

WTF.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/940605090402103297

Does anything else need to be said that people are actively pushing to destroy voting records as soon as possible? There is no legitimate reason to want to do this so to go so aggressively hard on it is the reddest of red flags.

I know Alabama is poor on a lot of cases but I feel like we could raise the $50 to store the digital records for thirty years.

12-12-2017 , 02:28 PM

#1639

iron81

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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers

... I can't tell if this is a serious reply or not, but if it is, do you have any reading sources on this? It sounds interesting but it's an argument I've never heard before.

It's a serious reply.

12-12-2017 , 02:29 PM

#1640

SenorKeeed

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Its storing pictures of each ballot so it might be a bit more than 50 bucks. say three million votes, 200 kbytes per picture, that's like 600 GB just for one election?

12-12-2017 , 02:31 PM

#1641

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Originally Posted by iron81

It's a serious reply.

To be clear when asking that I didn't mean to ridicule the position or anything. Sometimes there are inside jokes and people are operating on a different level than me here, just wanted to check.

Anyway, I'd still be interested in any reading material on the issue.

12-12-2017 , 02:32 PM

#1642

OneEyedPoker

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Its storing pictures of each ballot so it might be a bit more than 50 bucks. say three million votes, 200 kbytes per picture, that's like 600 GB just for one election?

You can get a 1 TB hard drive for $50 nowadays

12-12-2017 , 02:34 PM

#1643

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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker

You can get a 1 TB hard drive for $50 nowadays

Yeah I mean I'm sure there are security protocols and you want to have backups/redundancy/whatever, but the cost of doing something like this can't be a barrier.

12-12-2017 , 02:42 PM

#1644

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Great job Alabama, way to validate every ugly stereotype the coastal media has of you people. The left tried really had to gaslight itself into thinking you were decent people with all those Hillbilly Elegy economic anxiety thinkpieces, but now you're going to vote for a guy who gropes underage girls because you're a pack of tribalistic savages who just want to stick it to the people who think you're backwards dip****s.

12-12-2017 , 02:42 PM

#1645

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The Heritage Barber Shop has been on Carter Hill Road, on the south side of Montgomery, Alabama, for two decades. Last night, a dozen young black men gathered to get trimmed for the week. A radio and a TV both played commercials about the Senate race. “I’m gonna vote tomorrow,” a bearded young man named Zack Chambs said. He is in his late twenties, working on his master’s in social work. His T-shirt read, “I Have Decided,” in reference to his recent Christian baptism. He believed that Doug Jones was “the right guy.”
“I got, like, thirty texts from him!” David Johnson said, slightly annoyed, from the barber chair, where he was getting a trim. Johnson, who’s thirty, works in maintenance at a hotel. “They asked me who I was voting for. After I told them Doug Jones, they quit texting.”
“This is the most I’ve ever heard about a vote in Alabama,” Chambs said. “It’s a big thing. And also, Roy Moore—the scandal he’s got going on is kind of a big issue, too.”
Is that what the race would ultimately be about? “That’s what they made it about,” Johnson said. “They keep bringing up the kids and the scandal.” He added, “I don’t judge a man by what I hear, you know what I’m saying? If I was there with him when he did it, I’d be in jail and he might be there, too. They make it sound believable. Then they bring up that Doug Jones has something to do with putting that Klansman in prison. They know that’s gonna get to us.”
“Hell yes, it works,” a man named Devin, who’d been reading a magazine, added.
“I met Jones once, at a young Democrat convention,” Chambs said. “That’s how I learned about him. But the one thing I’ve always wanted to know about the Roy Moore case is, why did the women come out now?” He added, “Now, if he did it: shame on him. But if he didn’t . . . ”
A Jones ad came on the TV above the chair where Chambs was now sitting, getting his beard trimmed. “They all say the same thing, really,” Johnson said, of the white politicians in Alabama that he’s had to choose from in his lifetime. “We choose a side and appreciate that we can vote. There was a time when we couldn’t.”

good show here Democrats

12-12-2017 , 02:46 PM

#1646

SenorKeeed

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want to add any more to our moore-8 bet?

12-12-2017 , 02:50 PM

#1647

champstark

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

want to add any more to our moore-8 bet?

nope, we'll see what happens

12-12-2017 , 02:59 PM

#1648

ecriture d'adulte

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https://www.newyorker.com/current/al...ore-doug-jones

good show here Democrats

What was wrong with that?

12-12-2017 , 03:02 PM

#1649

champstark

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

What was wrong with that?

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A Jones ad came on the TV above the chair where Chambs was now sitting, getting his beard trimmed. “They all say the same thing, really,” Johnson said, of the white politicians in Alabama that he’s had to choose from in his lifetime.