Boomers definitely have another 10-20 years in them and they're consistent voters and have all the wealth and property and stocks and ****, and unlike everyone else, they're rising to the age where they get single payer health care, so they're "going" in the same way a newborn will be out of your house someday but you're going to spend an awful lot of time catering to them for the next 20 years of your life.

Also someone reassure me we can stop talking about that caravan except about how to help them, and it goes into the memory hole with Benghazi and the IT security along with all of the other dumb deplorable election tactics. We're not gonna go actively hurt those people, right?

By the way, healthcare is the Dems silver bullet to win the white working class in the deep red Trump states. Jon Tester may hang on, and he should be their model candidate in the Dakotas, Wyoming, the Deep South, etc, but a little more progressive than him. Run progressive white men who spend 80% of their time talking about healthcare, 15% about wages/jobs/middle class tax cuts/etc, and 5% talking about their deep home grown (insert state here) roots. If they're asked about immigration, immediaty pivot to healthcare.

Q: Caravan blah blah?

A: What people in (state) are really worried about is healthcare, that's why I support Medicare for All.

Q: But what about guns?

A: People are really focused on healthcare, Medicare for All will save them so much money.

Q: What did you think of Kanye, Nunes and Trump having an orgy in the Oval while watching Russian golden shower tapes and calling Barack Obama a Kenyan?

A: I'm really glad you want to talk more about healthcare and my support of Medicare for All...

That's how we swipe a couple of those Senate seats. At least, it's our only shot. Literally aim to get mocked for being a healthcare talking point robot because even if they mock you they just parrot your healthcare talking points.

Hoping Beto uses the money I sent him to give them some food and water and tell them how ****ing proud he is of them.

I have no clue how to analyze what Trump will do next. I'm pretty nervous for the lame duck Congress, though, in general. I assume he'll waste some money leaving the military there, force the caravan into temporary camps and slow walk the asylum claims, but not actually have them shot/starved/etc. Would be great if he just STFU about it and actually treated them with human decency, but I doubt it.

Since it's the dems, I'll simply accept something that isn't "run further to the right and be a moderate". That's dead there now. Tester only has a chance to survive b/c incumbency.

I also don't think running to what this forum would want will work either. At least it didn't in FL.

I want Spanberger or Ojeda types, people that'll fight.

Beto didn't fight; I wonder if he had he could've somehow pulled it off but we'll never know.

Gillum sorta did. Nelson didn't, Nelson got more votes. Elections are weird.
Healthcare is good though, dems have the R's there. R's plan is something like if you're not rich just die before the election thanks.

Big difference in how we win deep red Trump Senate seats, VA-07 type seats (Spanberger) and Texas.

There isnt enough of a liberal base to win Montana that way - you have to hammer a single liberal issue. In swingy VA/PA/CA/NY/NJ/etc districts turning out progressives for a fighter can win.

Texas is complicated and I think Beto did a hell of a job fighting back versus Trump without bomb-throwing.

Joe Donnelly lost by like 10 and a libertarian got 4. His bash the left ads were just unreal dumb. Not a single right winger watched that and voted for him.

Where we go from here in those states is certainly complicated, Trump has massive support and most of those that left aren't gonna come back.

Losing that incumbent advantage hurt a lot. Manchin doesn't win WV without it either. Gianforte won easily in MT and that's literally the same voters.

rumblings of late Tester precincts.

why am i still awake?

lol this ****in guy right here

Up all night F5ing my congresscritter race (MN-1). For the first time in a long time I hate both candidates (Walz was cool, the guy before him was one of my friend's dads and was also cool)

In the blue corner is Dan Feehan, who sucks. He's not from here and only moved here to run for the vacated seat (Walz is gonna be our governor, which is good as he's great). My aunt is a semi-important local Democrat and has worked with Feehan's campaign. According to her, all of Feehan's campaign people are Washington millennial computer people that have no idea how to relate to humans.

Feehan was getting pounded for being a DC democrat (he worked on Hilary's campaign or something) so his people put out all these ads where he's wearing a flannel shirt (looking awkward in it) and leading fake town hall meetings in barns. The background for everything in his ads is hay bales. I can just see his DC millennials "These hicks love hay bales, we need more hay bales! Can we get some shots of grain falling into grain elevators. MOAR HAY BALES!" **** you Dan Feehan, I'm not that big of a hick.

So I'd be willing to spite vote for the Republican. But in the red corner we have Jim Hagedorn, who's running in this race for the 4th time and is the WORST kind of Republican. His campaign has been all Colin Kaepernick, drug testing welfare recipients, and making people work to get welfare. How does this guy keep getting the Republican nomination??!

Race is super close. With 91 percent in Feehan had a 41 vote lead. But now with 98% in Hagedorn is up 1400 votes. Maybe we are that big of hicks.

newt gingrich's old district flipped (the one that ossoff lost)

tee hee hee

I don't think it's complicated, other than convincing good candidates to run. They'll vote in self-interest. Hammer healthcare the entire campaign with a relatable candidate.

I doubt a big political war is going to be necessary (or winnable for that matter), except for the usual savvy in knowing where the shots are coming from.

What you need to defeat movements like Trumpism is transparency and a spotlight. They don't do well under such conditions, because it is more facade than substance. And when facade is all that matters, a lot of ugly stuff gets swept under the rug.

You won't win his base. What matters is gain the moral victory. He'll pummel the house, he will whine and lie... but for all his popularity with his base, every poll show he is simply isn't trusted over-all. Put the spotlight on him and make him transparent, and it is unlikely that his base will grow as a result of his lies.

As a Donnelly voter I’m surprised he did so bad. His campaign and commercials were way better than Braun’s. And he crushed Braun in the debate that I watched. Braun has zero charisma and can’t even string together a thought beyond “supporting Trump’s agenda.” I can’t chalk it up to anything other than Trump voters got mobilized against Donnelly. Literally if Braun won then ANYONE with the R after their name was going to win in Indiana. Sigh.

not a surprise considering how close Ossoff was and how terrible a candidate he was

Bird flue 2020.

Maybe the environment will help us out whilst helping itself out.

I will say it looks like overall NY did better in its swing districts than CA. Mimi Walters won? LOL?

tester still down not much left.

white people man

although FWIW we need to win latino votes by larger percentages than this too

El diablo blanco.

Also, since i'm talking Minnesota congress races, MN-2 is gonna be won by Democrat Angie Craig, who's campaign ads were all her drinking beer with registered Republicans and holding court on issues. I, like everyone else around here, ate that **** up. Happy to see her with a win.

Amy Klobuchar has basically been running those exact ads (minus the beer) my whole life and she crushes.

Not that this is particularly accurate or anything but extrapolating current counts (NYT) to 100% gives Tester a 19.5k lead.

Missoula, Gallatin, Cascade, Park and Glacier seem likely to push him over the top.

I'm ahead of NYT, the extrapolation so far isn't that level. It's close enough I wouldn't stay up for it. Won't be called for a bit.