After that performance I would happily bet him around +170ish. Would like to see him work Top control for his next fight though... No reason to stand with someone as dangerous as jones if you can lay on him and steal a round.

I'd still feel confident betting Jones again, he got the win under pressure and next time around he'll know exactly what to look for.

Jones confidence probably took a major hit though and Alex's should have risen through the roof.

Maybe the 1st? I actually had Jones winning the 1st. Octagon control was my deciding factor in that round. Plus I think people give way to much credit for that take down. To me, I score it the same as 1 good clean shot. He let him right back up. Im no judge but that's my opinion. I still scored the fight 48-47 Jones.

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This. Jones has walked through some of the best fighters of all time, and made it look easy. At age 26 has been awarded with the title of the best p4p fighter in the ufc... Then someone who is a 8-1 dog comes out and lays a beating on him, and makes him sweat out a decision.

That is a pretty mighty hit to his confidence.

How did jones win on octagon control, when Gus dictated where the fight took place?

Either way I came up with 48-47 jones as well.

One thing that I haven't ever taken in consideration before is confidence of the challenger when fighting an "unbeatable" champ. Chael not scared of Anderson almost won. Weidman not scared of Anderson and won. Guf not afraid of Jones almost won. Guys who don't feel intimidated have fared well. They still might get out skilled but they definitely put on much closer/win fights

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In the 1st round I'm speaking of Octagon control. He was coming forward most of the round while the significant strikes were a little in Jones favor but Guf had the TD. I really think the glancing punch that cut Jones got everyone to give the round to Guf.

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How can you possibly think 49-46 would make it a Gustafsson win... The clear rounds in this fight were 4, and 5 for Jones.

1-3 were close with 1 edge Gus (maybe a clear win), 2 edge Jones, 3 edge Gus.

The UFC is not traditional mma fighting. I wish the Pride Fighting Championship was still around, specifically in the old days when there were basically no rules and you could do whatever you wanted to your opponent. Speaking of MMA in general, the fight should either go on or be a draw if no fighter has been knocked out or submitted. It would make the fights way more exciting to watch instead of these boring cautious fights you get sometimes. O and the scoring system is so lame, giving a fighter a round for throwing kicks and punches regardless if their significant strikes or a take down even if he doesn't take advantage of it. Call me crazy or old age, but I would personally like to see them fight with battle axes or some other gladiator weapons

Gus pretty clearly took the first I thought.

Supposedly Jones broke his foot early in the fight. I guess that news will come out one way or the other.

Also, the ringside doctor wanted to stop the fight after round 4 because of Jones' cut, but Jones and the ref talked him out of it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...son-due-to-cut

"if not for impassioned pleas from Jones and for the fight's referee, veteran third man in the cage "Big" John McCarthy, we would have a new light heavyweight champion right now."

If you had Jones winning r1 then which were the two rounds Gus won? 3 and...?

2nd rd, which was also super close. I had 1,4,5 for Jones.

IMO in confidence of round won I got
Round 5 Jones 100%
Round 4 Jones 65%
Round 3 Guf 65%
Round 2 Guf 55%
Round 1 Guf 51% and really could have been a 10-10 round but I almost never do a draw in scoring a round.

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I had 1 + 3 as Gus so I wasn't expecting there to be a 49-46 judging for either of them but it just made me think they had got caught up in the whirlwind of Gus looking great. Much worse worse judging calls have happened.

I rewatched the 1st round 2x and still think Jones won the round. I think because of a glancing blow that caused a cut and a take down off a missed kick that did no damage everyone is giving Guf that round. Guf had a nice flurry that lasted about 1:15, but Jones out struck him the rest of the round plus was winning octagon control for walking Guf down.

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If ya'll havent seen Fightmetric report yet, pretty intriguing card for them. They had it 49-48 Jones with Gus 1st and 2-3 draws. Fightmetric.

Future Events: Alexander Gustafsson (+300) vs. Jon Jones (-400) http://bestfightodds.com

Pretty spot on. Just have to wait it out for the public to bet Guf.

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Going to rewatch the fight later tonight, it's always interesting to watch it back when there isn't any adrenaline flying about your body and you can watch it with a clear mind.

Plus try without sound so the announcing doesn't influence you

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idk it's not like Gus is going to forget how to defend takedowns and he may get more aggressive when he has Jones hurt this time and take risks to finish since when he was ahead on points he was playing it safe when he was connecting on Jones in r3/early r4

I like Jones at -200 I think but Gus at +300 is tempting. I think the true line might be somewhere between the two if Gus comes to fight again, it just seems like a Gustafsson/Machida type fighter with precision striking and TDD will be the one to beat Jones - Machida just might be slightly too small for Jones at LHW but Gus definitely isn't

Glover doesn't have Gus's speed so I doubt he'll get it done but he does have more power/killer instinct if he can connect before getting taken down

If JDS loses to Cain I would LOVE to see him cut to LHW to fight Jones (i'm sure he could since a lot of LHWs cut from the 239ish JDS walks at and im sure he could slim down to 230 or so without losing much muscle before cutting the rest)

Similarly, if Cain loses to JDS decisively i'd love to see him take a crack at Jones at LHW, he could also get to 230 pretty easily if he lost all the unnecessary body fat then cut from there

Cormier i'm just not that excited about as a fighter and while he's clearly a great fighter I don't think he deserves an immediate shot at LHW the way Cain and JDS would, his resume is basically Barnett Bigfoot and Mir which while all great wins don't stack up to what Cain and JDS have done.

Nothing could be truer after watching the Garcia/Mart and Mayweather/Alvarez fight on Boxnation UK the other weekend. I had some friends over and their "scores" all matched the commentators and yet me and the judges had it nowhere near how the commentators had scored it. They had Mayweather winning by 9 rounds or something like that, I was sitting there thinking are these guys watching a different fight or am I just a complete nutjob.

Commentary is a HUGE factor.

Joe Rogan does it a lot. Try to sway the public. Sometimes because he is friends with one if the fighters and sometimes to hype the fight.

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