True. Gabbi Garcia would beat either one with ease.

What are you guys thinking for this weekend?

I'm liking Magny but a lot comes down to the kind of shape Gastellum comes in.

Think magny dosent have much chances, but if Gastelum comes in bad shape his done for 5R fight tho

I think Gastelum submits him but if Magny can drag it to the championship rounds he's live

Would take Gastelum -200 or Magny +350 probably but neither are available atm.

Might play Gastelum sub at +245, havent decided yet, prob not unless price improves though but it's the most likely outcome narrowly imo

Gastelum easily, dude's a beast.

Ronda would trash Floyd. Ironically, she would do better in a ring (under mma rules) since we saw how horrible she is at cutting off the cage. Now this is all assuming they fight today, without Floyd getting to practise any TDD / Sub defenses under a prolonged amount of time. There's simply to many ways for Ronda to get the fight to the mat. And remember, Floyd knows **** (I assume) about Judo tosses, double legs, leg locks etc. Holly Holm defended most TDD's because she's been practising them for years.

Now, under boxing rules? Oh she would get destroyed in like 10 s, or if Floyd gets 1 year to complement his game with TDD, then it's a different story.

I think ill bet some on Diego Sanchez at +450 vs Lamas.

Odds are pretty good, esp considering he comes off an TKO loss to Mendes, and I see the chance of it happening again against Sanchez. There is always that increased chance of fighters getting TKO/KO again after a similar loss before. Not sure what it is, might be the brain damage, also heard that now with the IV ban its likely to see more KO's since hydration might be less good and that esp dangerous for the brain.

Yeah, there's less cushioning for the brain when you're dehydrated, and there's a concern that without IVs some fighters may not rehydrate properly... and therefore be more susceptible to brain damage and knockouts.

Don't the fighters, after the weigh ins and come fight day, go up like 10 pounds? A simple solution would be to say, you cannot weight more than x come fight night. That would put a stop to it, because in the shape the fighters stand on the scale, they're in no way ready to fight.

Yeah I think some fighters even go up way more, like 20 pounds isn't unheard of. That would be a pretty good solution. better than having same day weigh-ins, or weigh-ins before stepping inside the octagon. But as a fan watching I don't really care to much.

It has become competition like, how much can you cut weight so that you are bigger come fight day. It's ridiculous, you actually have fighters who are in reality in different weightclasses. For instance, you could have a fighter gains 20 pounds, whereas the other fighter gains only 5-10 pounds, and then in actuality, they're different weightclasses!

That's exactly the problem, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if banning IVs is just the first step and the introduce a secondary weigh in or something similar in the future.

I can't remember the exact numbers claimed but there were/are certainly guys who cut a heap of water weight then rehydrate back up a lot. Brandon Thatch is a recently-discussed one that comes to mind and could be in the 20+ pound range

Hell didn't Cyborg publish a photo of herself weighing 170, not long after she'd had a weigh in at 145?

Just this situation with Askren vs Santos, Santos failed to make weight by 2.5 pounds (172.5), so Askren said we can fight if you don't weigh over 190 pounds the night of the fight, and Santos declined. Wtf? He gains over 10 kgs the next day? that's ****ing ridiculous.

I'm tall but I easily fluctuate 10 lbs in a day by cutting carbs and a nice evening of excessive boozing.

I believe they used to weigh in the day of, but they felt people fighting while dehydrated was more dangerous than giving them time to rehydrate.

My buddy is a wrestler and they had to weigh in and also weigh out of tournaments. That kept cutting low. If they did it where you had to weigh in a week ahead, day before and day of it would end it I think and not only be healthier, short and long term, but less fights would be cancelled.

Remember that Rumble has made 170 (obv he missed a bunch too, but...). That had to be the most extreme example.

Same day weigh in/day of the fight limits also make for problems if guys miss and you don't have much time to negotiate a catchweight outside the health/safety issues of guys just not opting to fully hydrate to keep weight/more dangerous cutting.

Not much betting talk here but got a huge weekend for combat sports.
Bellator and WSOF tonight, UFC, One FC and Canelo vs Cotto tomorrow.
So far only got Kato tonight at -140 I think Manhoef is shot but still dangerous. Kato though showed good fight IQ in beating Schilling and has decent control of distance and showed big power himself so I think he is a pretty solid bet.

Also got some money on Cotto at +320 I think its a lot closer the the lines suggest I just fear that the more money for future boxing promoters is a Canelo win and weary of ****ty judging.

I think Gatselum is the fave to win but I think he is overrated. If Magny can keep it on the feet he has a great chance to "out cardio" and out strike Gatselum. I think Gatselum has sloppy stand up which Magny can exploit with technical tight striking.

Magny is really going to need to move his feet though and fight almost perfectly to pull this off.

EDIT: Yeah I am on Kato and Cotto as well. I plan on livebetting all the events where possible and find it hard to make picks right now.

I'm on Diego at +450 as well, and by decision at +850. I'm waiting for the weigh-ins this afternoon to see how he looks on the scale and in the face off and may add more.

Also on Kato against Melvin Manhoef in Bellator tonight at +100. I'm trying some round robin under parlays on Bellator and WSOF tonight as well. Will post my full action later.

Really? I think Gastelum's striking is very tight these days. Did you see the Marquart fight? The only issue is that he loves to set everything up with the jab, which will be tough against Magny, who is pretty good against south paws. To me the striking could go either way though.

The line is pretty much perfect right now. I am pretty big on Gastelum at -210, but I am hoping the odds get better on Magny as I plan to hedge if he gets into the +275 range.

I think this fight is really close. Gastelum is okay maybe around -200 but I def. wouldn't pay any more juice than that. Magny is +265 which is significant value imo. I prefer to stab on Magny here as a very live dog rather than pay the juice on KG.

I watched the Marquart fight a couple days ago and KG looked good but Marquart also wasn't putting him in much danger. Gatselum has a tendency to throw wild punches and he also sometimes just plods forward. I dunno I am willing to eat my words I just don't get the KG hype train. One thing I do like about KG is he always shows up to fight unlike some others (ie Uriah Hall).

Bellator 146 Risk $460.00

Hisaki Kato (+100) vs Melvin Manhoef $100.00 for $100.00
Bubba Jenkins wins inside distance (+300) vs Jordan Parsons $35.00 for $105.00
Derek Campos (+155) vs Brandon Girtz $50.00 for $77.50

Parlays:
Guilherme Viana (-420) vs Houston Alexander + Bubba Jenkins (-280) vs Jordan Parsons $75.00 for $51.02
Round Robin: $20 each x 10 two-team parlays on all five main card under 1½'s or 2½'s $200.00 for $755.67

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WSOF 25 Risk $300.00

Parlays:
Islam Mamadev (-550) + Mike Ricci (-1200) + Brian Foster (-245) + Luis Palomino (-360) $100.00 for $130.37
Round Robin: $20 each x 10 two-team parlays on all five tourney & reserve bout under 1½'s $200.00 for $519.53

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Also threw a few bucks on a veteran European boxer to upset an undefeated prospect in Ramirez who preferred to fight tonight rather than wait for his mandatory title shot opportunity at Super Middleweight:

Friday Night Knockouts Boxing on TruTV Risk $25.00
Gevorg Khatchikian (+1700) vs Gilberto Ramirez $25.00 for $425.00

Tailing your Kato bet bros for a small sweat. Was planning on fading Manhoef in his next fights anyways as his chin is done.

Kato (-135) 0.74u to win 0.55u

Record: 3-0-0 +3 units

Good luck all !!!!

Screw it, another bet on Hisaki Kato (-125) vs Melvin Manhoef $125.00 for $100.00

Kato played right into Manhoefs game thought he would mix it up a bit better.