Close, seems like it's not entirely on the back but somewhere between back/side. Though, wouldn't go as far saying that Rockhold fought dirty. The fact that once he got machida down, that machida couldn't get up says it all.
You have to be able to sprawl and get back up, especially since your whole game is centered around striking and your BJJ is defensive centered (Machida isn't really a versatile grappler in that he does sweeps or is active of his back). He took too far much damage on the ground (was same thing vs Jones, he gets taken down and battered which determines rest of the fight). And I'm saying this as a huge Machida fan, he is by far my favorite fighter.

I've seen the slow mo, it was legal

Brutal shot, definitely legal.

Quinton Jackson:
It's time to pay some bills! The fight is back on boyz! April 25th UFC186!!


http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/4/21...ack-on-ufc-186

UFC 186 is in 4 days!

Wikipedia is showing it as "Catchweight (215 lbs)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_186

Matt Brown to fight Tim Means at UFC 189

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/4/21...-not-nate-diaz

Should be good. Brown should break him but means on a nice run

Wonder when the last few 189 fights will be announced room for 3-5 more

This should be a good fight. I have no complaints that Browns fighting a non top 5 guy as he lost 2 in a row. I hope he gets the proper credit for beating a legit tough guy in Means. Most importantly it's much better for everyone to have 2 guys that want to fight as Diaz really wasn't into it.

Brown via TKO end of R2 or beginning of R3. (And as always it will be brutal)

Not a big Brown guy but isn't he stopping Means every time here?

im actually going to bet heavy on means brown just gets wrecked by body shots and means is particularly nasty right now i feel this is not that different than the holloway vs swanson match where the younger fighter is just better in every spot

This... IF Means opens as ~ +240.
Couldn't find odds for it yet anywhere.

Also while looking for 189 odds saw that Aldo is only -118 on Pinnacle. Just WTF??

so much this

unloaded on hollaway and am hoping to get means +150 here(if ne1 active/trustworthy in thread wants to book brown now at -150 will take a good amount of action, we can also do escrow esp if ur on stars)

been saying for a long time brown is really overvalued and is borderline top 15, when i saw means get this fight i def double fistpumped at the thought of all the money means is gonna make me in this fight

Anything sticking out for you's on UFC 186? I reckon their is most value in the women's match ups, gotta watch more video though. Be surprised if Dollaway can beat Bisping too

Dollaway is a lock to win in my book. The fact that he`s a dog in this fight just shows how much value there is in relatively new sports. I have no doubt that Dollaway will win this.

Have the lines being released yet for this?

If not, I will gladly book this action. My 300 to your 200?

i have not seen a line newhere but tbh i havn't lookd at all, i cant imagine its out yet it just got announced

your 300 to my 200 bookd i have means u have brown

gl

Is that more about Bisping being on the slide or do you just think CB is better? I think prime for prime Bisping wins every time.

Apparently not.

https://www.bestfightodds.com/events...s-mcgregor-942

bisping doesnt lose to people like dolloway

i mean christ dolloway hasnt done **** he lost to THE hamman and beat mayhem got blasted by machida and beat carmont who got KNOCKED OUT I REPEAT KNOCKED OUT by thales leites

i would book any amount against you on this one

Aldo generally looks better in brazil allegedly ran from a test etc and fights in nevada no running from nsac. Depends how good you think conor is if def take aldo in brazil but conor may have the better striking and if so if his tdd holds up he wins. Id have been on conor but the way aldo beat mendes i prob wont even tho aldos better in brazil

Id be in here on brown too if u want some more means

sure jus post how much u want at -150 and it will b bookd

In for 225 to win 150 i guess gl

Bisping gonna cruise

sounds good bookd u have brown i have means ur 225 to my 150

I agree I think Dolloway has 3 minutes to land a big shot and hurt Bisping or he's going to get 30-27'd or TKO'd late due to shaky chin + accumulation of damage

Pretty tempting to take Dolloway wins in r1 + Bisping wins in r3 or decision, or just Bisping straight up. See where the prices are. I may get on Bisping at -150 or better too. He's declined a bit and Dolloway is in his prime, but Bisping is still a much better fighter overall