anyone done for deep/ante 100nl tables? help me start them plllllease

Do we really need to have a b/c range OOP on super drawy flops 100bb deep?

That was sort of my point. If you're always getting it in or folding to his raise, villain can start bluff-raising any two. And you would need to get it in super light to combat it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

WRONG, u2killers clearly soul owned him.

I think not donking that turn is much worse then his flop call of the c/r.

And this post explains exactly why it's terrible not to donk:

If his plan was to check/shove the turn then obviously check/shoving for value blows. He's also going to get a lot of check back from draws.

What? Why.

Im not cbetting there with the intention of calling a raise.

It folds out hands with decent equity against us and acts as a semi bluff against better hands that will flat. Check calling will suck oop on this board imo loads of bad cards and could easily be behind already.

Calling the flop raise is spew without some kind of history. Id be very suprised if even a good player could make it profitable with no reads/dynamic.

When this starts to happen you can adjust. Readless not folding here is bad when even if they are bluffing they could have 40%+ equity.

Yah it's so hard to think of a way to adjust when someone is raising any two on the flop.

Me likey the conversation. Just to add some things....

A few people have said that my raising range is mostly draws and very little value. However, it should be noted that I may also have overpairs in my range here like AA/KK/QQ etc. With fish in the blinds I'm fine flatting these hands to keep them in. Im also not aware of Om Nom's fold to 3bet, but if it is high there is a greater chance I would again flat these hands.

Regardless of whether he knows that (and he prob doesnt cuz very little history), the peel is very optimistic at best. It would be better if he had blockers to some of the combo draws/fd's.

And again - Im not bashing Om...I think he is a solid player.

edit - I just spilled my coffee all over my shirt. FML.

Don't get me wrong, guys. I was just saying there could be arguments for making that play as an adjustment under some circumstances. I do agree that it's spewy with no reads/history.

you guys think to deeply into this game. just mash buttons, imo.

Nice, good luck

I think default is a fold readless given our mighty kicker and being OOP. You can still cbet it because readless villain will float you a decent amount on this board and sometimes call with overs o other stuff you beat (draws etc)

check/call imo

+1mirrion

Of course it sucks to play OOP vs a decent oponent but you'll also check/call AK probably if you check/call 9x here so our range will do ok on many turns.
The biggest issue with checking is eliminating the good overpairs and 99/TT out of our range so a good hero can just open the floodgates and fire, fire, fire but untill you've seen that hero is actually capeable of this I prefer checking.

You can usually also elimintate the very top of his overpair range due to PF so I guess it balances out.

seriously, i think there is some truth to this. there are times where i'd be better served not thinking so much.

I think I played fairly badly the last couple of days and ran mediocre. Basically I won hands were I got it in lolbad and lost most hands were I got it in good, kinda strange

But I found the perfect tiltbuster. I raved about this game in multiple other threads but Tiger Woods 10 for the Wii is great against tilt. Just playing a round of 18 and smacking the **** out of some balls does wonders.
I guess a punching bag etc would work as well

So if you c/c, what are you doing on a/k/q/j/6/heart turns?

I feel like I get owned way too often if I c/c there.

Whats the best way to get right click=fold??

Normally when I soulown someone I have more than 31% lol.

b/cing that flop is pretty terrible esp considering the reraise size. I think shipping ocassionally isnt bad but b/cing you can even be behind a few overpairs and top pairs(sometimes). And then to check the best turn card possible has got to be terrible given the reasons for calling flop in first place right.

most people when they call with the nut low can't soulown someone, but U2killers did some serious soulowning with nut low

best post in this thread

i hate you treppex.

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $472.30
BTN: $1075.00
Hero (SB): $1337.00
BB: $406.60

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with 8 9
1 fold, BTN raises to $12, Hero calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: ($28.00) 5 K 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

Turn: ($76.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $60, Hero raises to $192, BTN calls $132

River: ($460.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $212, BTN raises to $847 all in, Hero calls $635