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11-06-2010 , 10:25 AM
don't bet so big on flop..
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11-06-2010 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by realmaniac1
lol ty
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11-06-2010 , 01:21 PM
God damn! I got this feeling that I wouldn't care how bad I run and how much I lose if I only knew I wouldn't BUST my damn roll if it continues for only a few days. So frustrating to be limited by it. Also planning to hit that stupid 300k VPP milestone so dropping down stakes would force me to play 16 hours a day or something, and that's not going to happen.

\rant

Seriously, I'm almost on a f**king 60BI downswing right now. If I had a 200BI+ roll I wouldn't care, but with a current 40BI it's starting to hurt.

Also, f**k EV. Everyone's crying about EV. Where's your damn EV when someone calls your 4-bet with AA leaving literally $0.5 and then sticks it in on the flop when they hit? Where's your EV when you play CORRECTLY but end up in situations where you end up losing, not because of them sucking out, but because of them flopping better than you or simply coolering you? Running situationally bad is far worse than running "all-in EV" bad.

There, feel a little better now.

Last edited by DonkeyFishFight; 11-06-2010 at 01:28 PM.
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11-06-2010 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight
God damn! I got this feeling that I wouldn't care how bad I run and how much I lose if I only knew I wouldn't BUST my damn roll if it continues for only a few days. So frustrating to be limited by it. Also planning to hit that stupid 300k VPP milestone so dropping down stakes would force me to play 16 hours a day or something, and that's not going to happen.

\rant

Seriously, I'm almost on a f**king 60BI downswing right now. If I had a 200BI+ roll I wouldn't care, but with a current 40BI it's starting to hurt.

Also, f**k EV. Everyone's crying about EV. Where's your damn EV when someone calls your 4-bet with AA leaving literally $0.5 and then sticks it in on the flop when they hit? Where's your EV when you play CORRECTLY but end up in situations where you end up losing, not because of them sucking out, but because of them flopping better than you or simply coolering you? Running situationally bad is far worse than running "all-in EV" bad.

There, feel a little better now.
my biggest downswing of all time was about 25 buy ins and apart fomr that more than 8 buy ins is very rare. I don't get how your losing as your theory is pretty solid, tilt much? playing too much volume? try 4 tabling until you get 20 buy ins back, or buy in for less so there are less decisions, time is on your side
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11-06-2010 , 01:38 PM
I think I'm playing alright. Or if we should put it like this: I think I make far less mistakes than most players I encounter do, including the regulars. I see lots of them make a ton of blatant mistakes that I'd never do, that they don't realize are mistakes. So simply based on that I should have an edge. But I guess the variance of the game, coupled with me playing more tables and tighter than I'm used to, and running situationally (and all-in EV) bad you can get boned pretty easily.

The thing is that time isn't on my side. I've made plans for which I need to hit 300k VPP and cash out the milestones and $4k bonuses I get from it (at 140k VPP currently) and I can't cancel those plans. So if worst comes to worst I guess I'll have to play with 20bb or something until that's taken care of. Pretty crappy situation.

Basically, I don't care if I'm running bad or how bad I'm running. That which bothers me is that I'm going busto if it continues. If I was properly rolled I wouldn't care nearly as much. And I don't care too damn much as it is, anyway.

Last edited by DonkeyFishFight; 11-06-2010 at 01:50 PM.
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11-06-2010 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CHRONICFEVER
ok stole these from BBV I love asian chixxx. shes the **** hottest I've ever seen












its criminal that this post was followed by 5 posts without even acknowledging the level of hotness in these pics. the 2nd pic is kinda tilting though cause i am trying to turn my monitor upside down!
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11-06-2010 , 02:09 PM
nvm FTP are bastards

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP: $236.60
CO: $406.50
BTN: $341.30
SB: $110.80
BB: $234.50
Hero (UTG): $100.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A K 8 6
Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero calls $11.50, CO calls $11.50

Flop: ($46.00) J K 3 (3 players)
SB bets $28.50, Hero calls $28.50, CO calls $28.50

Turn: ($131.50) 8 (3 players)
SB bets $67.30 all in, Hero calls $56.65 all in, CO calls $67.30

River: ($322.75) Q (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $322.75
CO shows J T Q T (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
SB shows Q 9 A T (a straight, Ace high)
Hero shows A K 8 6 (two pair, Kings and Eights)
SB wins $21.30
SB wins $298.45
(Rake: $3.00)
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11-06-2010 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pkrtxs
its criminal that this post was followed by 5 posts without even acknowledging the level of hotness in these pics. the 2nd pic is kinda tilting though cause i am trying to turn my monitor upside down!
It may be an indication that the forum likes poker more than vagina or just not like asian chix
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11-06-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight
I think I'm playing alright. Or if we should put it like this: I think I make far less mistakes than most players I encounter do, including the regulars. I see lots of them make a ton of blatant mistakes that I'd never do, that they don't realize are mistakes. So simply based on that I should have an edge. But I guess the variance of the game, coupled with me playing more tables and tighter than I'm used to, and running situationally (and all-in EV) bad you can get boned pretty easily.

The thing is that time isn't on my side. I've made plans for which I need to hit 300k VPP and cash out the milestones and $4k bonuses I get from it (at 140k VPP currently) and I can't cancel those plans. So if worst comes to worst I guess I'll have to play with 20bb or something until that's taken care of. Pretty crappy situation.

Basically, I don't care if I'm running bad or how bad I'm running. That which bothers me is that I'm going busto if it continues. If I was properly rolled I wouldn't care nearly as much. And I don't care too damn much as it is, anyway.
Dude, remember you're playing for money and not vpps, 60 buy ins is pretty brutal. is the 300k vpps worth 60 buy ins? Or what if you get the 300k vpps and it cost you 85 buy ins to do so? If wou was focusing on winning more you could be plus 60 buy ins which is a 120 buy in difference. I use to have a focus on rakeback, this tilted my game slightly, I use to 8table rush like a nutter and I'd break even, but had I had 4tabled I would have made alot more. it is only a side bonus, having a solid winrate is much preferable because then you can move up, and it increases confidence ect.

Sounds to me like you're tilted, or maybe you are just running really bad. Too much volume can make you feel like feel like you're running bad when in fact you may be missing a hell of a lot of opportunities to apply pressure and take pots, tilting with high volume is also horrible for your roll. 'not caring' is tilt, how you run is suppose to be meaningful, because then you might be gambling in losing situations because you don't care if you hit or miss.

I suppose if you can reload its ok to get the vpps for supernova or whatever, because then you move up and play less volume,,,,

Last edited by Mt.FishNoob; 11-06-2010 at 04:28 PM. Reason: I bolded a bit of your paragraph, read it, this is leaking your 'game'.
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11-06-2010 , 04:33 PM
Man this game can be so annoying, more so then NL by fair. Today, everyone is chasing there flush vs my set or straight for 2 streets and hitting...

I really need to deposit more and move up to nosebleed PLO10... Where they only play decent cards i hear?

Hi Boys


Last edited by Logieuk; 11-06-2010 at 04:43 PM.
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11-06-2010 , 05:15 PM
Nice camel toe would hit it with glasses on.
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11-06-2010 , 07:13 PM
i hate 6 max soooo much


Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.30 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP: $215.90
CO: $222.55
Hero (BTN): $738.90
SB: $738.70
BB: $340.20
UTG: $1000.00

Pre Flop: ($4.80) Hero is BTN with A 2 7 T
3 folds, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $21.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $15.80

Flop: ($47.40) 2 3 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $40, SB calls $40

Turn: ($127.40) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $108, SB calls $108

River: ($343.40) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $324, SB requests TIME, SB raises to $568.60 all in, Hero calls $244.60
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11-06-2010 , 07:15 PM
Nice donation, no variance poker.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) IPoker
SB ($195)
BB ($53.45)
UTG ($40.43)
UTG+1 ($52.11)
Hero ($76.03)
BTN ($51.28)

Dealt to Hero Q K A A

UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, fold, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.25, UTG calls $2.25, UTG+1 calls $2.25

FLOP ($13.75) 4 2 Q

SB bets $6.87, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $34.36, SB calls $27.49

TURN ($82.47) 4 2 Q 2

SB bets $82.47, Hero calls $38.92 (AI)

RIVER ($160) 4 2 Q 2 K

Hero shows Q K A A
(Pre 66%, Flop 94.1%, Turn 100.0%)

SB shows 8 9 T J
(Pre 34%, Flop 5.9%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero wins $157
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11-06-2010 , 07:20 PM
Real life beat. Not playing golf sunday morning, so i get a lie in, sleep till when ever i want!

But no, Logieukjnr decided to get chickenpox, screaming all night trying to scratch his skin off, there goes a nice session out the window.....
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11-06-2010 , 07:26 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP: $26.29
CO: $41.52
BTN: $25.10
SB: $19.62
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $22.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A A 6 J
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.60, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $7.15, 1 fold, MP calls $6.90, 2 folds, SB calls $5.55

Flop: ($23.55) 4 8 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17.85 all in, MP raises to $19.14 all in, SB calls $12.47 all in

Turn: ($71.72) 8 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($71.72) 6 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $71.72
MP shows 3 T 9 4 (a straight, Ten high)
SB shows J Q 6 3 (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
Hero shows A A 6 J (two pair, Aces and Eights)
MP wins $10.76
MP wins $57.96
(Rake: $3.00)


How do people get so lucky when making such stupid calls pre?? I mean wtf seriously.
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11-06-2010 , 08:38 PM


standard start to every ****ing month. **** you 2010, **** you right in the ass.
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11-06-2010 , 08:55 PM
Thats impressive. I have never seen a perfect split down the middle before.

GL duder. Hope you start running better.
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11-06-2010 , 09:05 PM
mrw, you need to post results
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11-06-2010 , 09:12 PM
AA of course.
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11-06-2010 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Xr8ed


standard start to every ****ing month. **** you 2010, **** you right in the ass.
arent u playing mostly the short tables though? if so, its your own fault. if not, sorry bro, hope u run better
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11-06-2010 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
Dude, remember you're playing for money and not vpps, 60 buy ins is pretty brutal. is the 300k vpps worth 60 buy ins? Or what if you get the 300k vpps and it cost you 85 buy ins to do so? If wou was focusing on winning more you could be plus 60 buy ins which is a 120 buy in difference. I use to have a focus on rakeback, this tilted my game slightly, I use to 8table rush like a nutter and I'd break even, but had I had 4tabled I would have made alot more. it is only a side bonus, having a solid winrate is much preferable because then you can move up, and it increases confidence ect.

Sounds to me like you're tilted, or maybe you are just running really bad. Too much volume can make you feel like feel like you're running bad when in fact you may be missing a hell of a lot of opportunities to apply pressure and take pots, tilting with high volume is also horrible for your roll. 'not caring' is tilt, how you run is suppose to be meaningful, because then you might be gambling in losing situations because you don't care if you hit or miss.

I suppose if you can reload its ok to get the vpps for supernova or whatever, because then you move up and play less volume,,,,
Yeah, I'm definitely not the guy who plays for VPPs. I've never done that. Except for the following two months. Since the swongs of PLO can't guarantee me any monetary win/loss with any kind of certainty, the bonuses at least can, which is why I'm trying to get them. And I do absolutely try my best to play solid and as good as I can (as good as one can on many tables). I'm not just putting in hands for the sake of it, even though I'm on a schedule.

The "not caring" part is actually great, I think. There was a time when I would get pretty tilted losing all-in after all-in but now I sincerely don't care (maybe 10%). The little bit I care is only because of the concern of busting. All this means is that what I care about is how good/bad my own play is. After that I can't affect anything. And that's a mindset I've been looking to have for a long time. So that's all good.

I agree with playing less tables. I tried playing 20-50bb tables for 30-40k hands now and I hate them. There's no damn skill involved. I've always hated short stacked poker since I played NLHE, but I decided to give them a shot in PLO. Ones skill edge is totally massacred when stacks are so short and the variance is sick, so my conclusion is that I hate them. Played a long session of "normal" poker today and that just felt awesome. So I'm going to continue with that and hope I start running better. Again, re-post of graph at either -6000bb or break-even.

Thanks for a sincere reply, by the way.
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11-06-2010 , 09:45 PM
He mad



Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): $35.77
BB: $24.25
UTG: $21.29
MP: $26.28
CO: $120.64
BTN: $21.98

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 5 A 8 9
3 folds, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) 6 T 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($5.25) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Final Pot: $12.25
Hero shows 5 A 8 9 (a pair of Fives)
BTN shows 4 8 Q K (a pair of Fours)
Hero wins $11.65
(Rake: $0.60)
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11-06-2010 , 10:02 PM
first time LOL'ing irl playing online poker


$100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BTN): $154.31
SB: $126.75
BB: $48.52
CO: $204.49

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 6 4 5 7
CO raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, CO calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) 2 5 K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $16.00, CO calls $16

Turn: ($57.50) A (2 players)
CO folds
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11-06-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nachunja
first time LOL'ing irl playing online poker


$100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BTN): $154.31
SB: $126.75
BB: $48.52
CO: $204.49

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 6 4 5 7
CO raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, CO calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) 2 5 K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $16.00, CO calls $16

Turn: ($57.50) A (2 players)
CO folds
Hi buddy !

PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($101)
BB ($50)
UTG ($68.79)
UTG+1 ($49.50)
CO ($54.04)
Hero ($55.02)

Dealt to Hero K J 8 Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.75, fold, Hero calls $4

FLOP ($12) A K 4

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($12) A K 4 J

SB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($12) A K 4 J 3

SB folds

Hero shows K J 8 Q

Hero wins $11.40
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11-07-2010 , 05:47 AM
how much fun would it be if i could run good for just 3k hands. Unfortunately that wont ever happen
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