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04-15-2012 , 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thatpfunk
no, its good...

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
2,033 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
2s2c4c4h21.84% 4432
10%17.13% 33626
10%16.21% 31432
15%15.68% 30333
15%14.47% 28127
20%14.67% 28626

and you can nit up the ranges as much as you want but you can't make ronny's play bad here.
When everyone goes all-in, someone will have a hand in the bottom 50% or maybe even bottom 30% like 3457s or whatever. Of course 2244 does well if we assign top 20% or better to everyone which is just high cards.

EDIT: Oh well even if someone has low trash 2244 still does ok, must be a good hand.

Last edited by Borys313; 04-15-2012 at 02:05 PM.
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04-15-2012 , 01:57 PM
The way I see it Joey's open, Joey's call of the 3bet and Joey's stackoff are the only nonstandard plays. Not sure how to rate towelie's stackoff in a pot that's likely gonna be 4-5 ways when he's got 400 invested. Instinctively I'd say it's -EV but multiway equities often don't correspond with instincts.

Edit: forgot to add, Ben's shove not all that standard either when fold equity is low
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04-15-2012 , 02:04 PM
look who is in the BB when considering pre

also don't use your intuition on equity in 6 way pots. Stick with ppt
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04-15-2012 , 02:07 PM
i wrote something out but i think cliffs were basically I had a chance to fold 3 times and choose the other option all 3 no gamble, no future tho, pre def too loose though with zyph not making too many huge mistakes in single raise pots 150+ deep and no one else at the tables likes to fold much pre + zyph BB. calling 3b debatable as I think alot of my decisions are easy in this specific type of spot although super close on some boards and don't expect ben/towile to rando jam 4 cards like they had and expect them to 3b all their value hands pre


pretty sure calling it off when everyone is all in though is not even close, why play plo to fold there!!!!!! lol
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04-15-2012 , 02:10 PM
6-way all-ins are tricky, you never know when you drawing dead with AA preflop

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AcAd2s2h0.00% 00
33330.00% 00
456722.03% 132,1530
89TJ40.59% 243,233566
KKQQ37.39% 224,048566
AsAh2d2c0.00% 00
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04-15-2012 , 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw8419
look who is in the BB when considering pre

also don't use your intuition on equity in 6 way pots. Stick with ppt
That really doesn't mean we can start opening super wide UTG with 3 of the best behind us, deep.

Agree with your second point though
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04-15-2012 , 02:46 PM
w/e

Last edited by Mig; 04-15-2012 at 02:53 PM.
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04-15-2012 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Between this post and wanting to fold A457ds preflop, I must think you have no concept of PLO preflop play.

Or you make the greatest levels.
i`m not leveling....
and yes...i have some different concepts in PLO...esp preflop..

apparently some of them seem very strange for you....

...but imho...this is not my fault...

so...can you pls stop picking on me?

or at least come up with hard numbers/reasonings?
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04-15-2012 , 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CZI
The way I see it Joey's open, Joey's call of the 3bet and Joey's stackoff are the only nonstandard plays. Not sure how to rate towelie's stackoff in a pot that's likely gonna be 4-5 ways when he's got 400 invested. Instinctively I'd say it's -EV but multiway equities often don't correspond with instincts.
It's totally std when you run like him.
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04-15-2012 , 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MATT111
It's totally std when you run like him.


or you could be talking about towel but i dont see him run that well too often lately

Last edited by ChicagoJoey; 04-15-2012 at 03:20 PM.
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04-15-2012 , 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Borys313
When everyone goes all-in, someone will have a hand in the bottom 50% or maybe even bottom 30% like 3457s or whatever. Of course 2244 does well if we assign top 20% or better to everyone which is just high cards.

EDIT: Oh well even if someone has low trash 2244 still does ok, must be a good hand.
you can give as tight-
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
2,758 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
2c4c2s4h22.03% 6063
5%13.53% 35440
5%16.48% 43148
8%16.52% 43444
10%15.84% 41741
12%15.60% 40845

or as looose-
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
9,497 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
2c4c2s4h18.86% 1,78513
5%18.78% 1,716138
15%16.08% 1,445168
25%15.68% 1,406171
40%15.10% 1,356158
50%15.49% 1,387170

a range as you want and 2244 is never bad.
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04-15-2012 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Borys313
6-way all-ins are tricky, you never know when you drawing dead with AA preflop

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AcAd2s2h0.00% 00
33330.00% 00
456722.03% 132,1530
89TJ40.59% 243,233566
KKQQ37.39% 224,048566
AsAh2d2c0.00% 00
icwudt
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04-16-2012 , 01:40 AM
lol owned

PokerStars Hand #78942858601: Omaha Pot Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/04/16 2:26:21 BRT [2012/04/16 1:26:21 ET]
Table 'Albali' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: IRLMedic ($1169.92 in chips)
Seat 2: urubu111 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: IMALLIN723 ($989.93 in chips)
Seat 6: DRKRUCHY ($376.90 in chips)
IRLMedic: posts small blind $2
urubu111: posts big blind $4
IRLMedic: posts the ante $0.80
urubu111: posts the ante $0.80
IMALLIN723: posts the ante $0.80
DRKRUCHY: posts the ante $0.80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to urubu111 [xxxx]
crazytiger joins the table at seat #5
sir mont3ki joins the table at seat #3
IMALLIN723: raises $8 to $12
DRKRUCHY: folds
IRLMedic: folds
urubu111: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [8h 9h 4d]
urubu111: bets $24
IMALLIN723: calls $24
*** TURN *** [8h 9h 4d] [8s]
urubu111: bets $36
IMALLIN723: calls $36
*** RIVER *** [8h 9h 4d 8s] [Qc]
urubu111: checks
IMALLIN723: bets $124
urubu111: raises $272 to $396
IMALLIN723: raises $521.13 to $917.13 and is all-in
urubu111: folds
Uncalled bet ($521.13) returned to IMALLIN723
IMALLIN723 collected $939.70 from pot
IMALLIN723: shows [Td 6h Ah 2h] (a pair of Eights)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $941.20 | Rake $1.50
Board [8h 9h 4d 8s Qc]
Seat 1: IRLMedic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: urubu111 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: IMALLIN723 collected ($939.70)
Seat 6: DRKRUCHY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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04-16-2012 , 01:44 AM
sorr[y for the trash talk after i was proud of myself QUOTE=urubu111;32628200]lol owned

PokerStars Hand #78942858601: Omaha Pot Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/04/16 2:26:21 BRT [2012/04/16 1:26:21 ET]
Table 'Albali' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: IRLMedic ($1169.92 in chips)
Seat 2: urubu111 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: IMALLIN723 ($989.93 in chips)
Seat 6: DRKRUCHY ($376.90 in chips)
IRLMedic: posts small blind $2
urubu111: posts big blind $4
IRLMedic: posts the ante $0.80
urubu111: posts the ante $0.80
IMALLIN723: posts the ante $0.80
DRKRUCHY: posts the ante $0.80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to urubu111 [xxxx]
crazytiger joins the table at seat #5
sir mont3ki joins the table at seat #3
IMALLIN723: raises $8 to $12
DRKRUCHY: folds
IRLMedic: folds
urubu111: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [8h 9h 4d]
urubu111: bets $24
IMALLIN723: calls $24
*** TURN *** [8h 9h 4d] [8s]
urubu111: bets $36
IMALLIN723: calls $36
*** RIVER *** [8h 9h 4d 8s] [Qc]
urubu111: checks
IMALLIN723: bets $124
urubu111: raises $272 to $396
IMALLIN723: raises $521.13 to $917.13 and is all-in
urubu111: folds
Uncalled bet ($521.13) returned to IMALLIN723
IMALLIN723 collected $939.70 from pot
IMALLIN723: shows [Td 6h Ah 2h] (a pair of Eights)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $941.20 | Rake $1.50
Board [8h 9h 4d 8s Qc]
Seat 1: IRLMedic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: urubu111 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: IMALLIN723 collected ($939.70)
Seat 6: DRKRUCHY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)[/QUOTE]
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04-16-2012 , 02:01 AM
$2/$4 Ante $0.80 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO IMALLIN723 ($989.93)
BTN DRKRUCHY ($376.90)
SB IRLMedic ($1,169.92)
BB urubu111 ($1,000)

Pre-Flop: ($9.20, 4 players)
IMALLIN723 raises to $12, 2 folds, urubu111 calls $8

Flop: 8 9 4 ($29.20, 2 players)
urubu111 bets $24, IMALLIN723 calls $24

Turn: 8 ($77.20, 2 players)
urubu111 bets $36, IMALLIN723 calls $36

River: Q ($149.20, 2 players)
urubu111 checks, IMALLIN723 bets $124, urubu111 raises to $396, IMALLIN723 goes all-in $917.13, urubu111 folds

Final Pot: $941.20
IMALLIN723 shows a pair of Eights
10 6 A 2

IMALLIN723 wins $1,460.83 (net +$470.90)

urubu111 lost $468.80
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04-16-2012 , 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhenderson723
sorr[y for the trash talk after i was proud of myself QUOTE=urubu111;32628200]lol owned

PokerStars Hand #78942858601: Omaha Pot Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/04/16 2:26:21 BRT [2012/04/16 1:26:21 ET]
Table 'Albali' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: IRLMedic ($1169.92 in chips)
Seat 2: urubu111 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: IMALLIN723 ($989.93 in chips)
Seat 6: DRKRUCHY ($376.90 in chips)
IRLMedic: posts small blind $2
urubu111: posts big blind $4
IRLMedic: posts the ante $0.80
urubu111: posts the ante $0.80
IMALLIN723: posts the ante $0.80
DRKRUCHY: posts the ante $0.80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to urubu111 [xxxx]
crazytiger joins the table at seat #5
sir mont3ki joins the table at seat #3
IMALLIN723: raises $8 to $12
DRKRUCHY: folds
IRLMedic: folds
urubu111: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [8h 9h 4d]
urubu111: bets $24
IMALLIN723: calls $24
*** TURN *** [8h 9h 4d] [8s]
urubu111: bets $36
IMALLIN723: calls $36
*** RIVER *** [8h 9h 4d 8s] [Qc]
urubu111: checks
IMALLIN723: bets $124
urubu111: raises $272 to $396
IMALLIN723: raises $521.13 to $917.13 and is all-in
urubu111: folds
Uncalled bet ($521.13) returned to IMALLIN723
IMALLIN723 collected $939.70 from pot
IMALLIN723: shows [Td 6h Ah 2h] (a pair of Eights)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $941.20 | Rake $1.50
Board [8h 9h 4d 8s Qc]
Seat 1: IRLMedic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: urubu111 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: IMALLIN723 collected ($939.70)
Seat 6: DRKRUCHY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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id like to say this to you, but i dont have chat atm on starss, so **** you bastard. lol



i wouldn't say, but just because you are ******ed, i folded Q99 fmllll

edit: you sent me to flips. lol
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04-16-2012 , 02:08 AM
lol no way i thought u were bluffing cuz most ppl dont check paired boards after they have been betting unless they r giving up. at least i think like that but ive broke even for 2 years so im wrong a lot
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04-16-2012 , 02:09 AM
ok, so i will help: its easy make hands at omaha. when the board is paired just laydown ur ****** flush drsw

edit: won flips. sweet. not tilted anymore. so, wp nh etc. trash talk is fun. i like that. btw you are crazy becayuse i was 2tabling on that time and i noticed you shove in less than 3 second. lol
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04-16-2012 , 02:56 AM
jhender= the always enjoyable to play imallin eh


just need to figure out who matt111 and chinaski are now lol, sick play their in that hand
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04-16-2012 , 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

just need to figure out who matt111 and chinaski are now lol, sick play their in that hand
True that. anyone knows ? ^^
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04-16-2012 , 04:15 PM
GIF ANYONE? Bonus points: he quit after this hand and I ended session up 5.5k after being stuck almost 30 and busto if it hit 50

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $50.00 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

HERO (SB) ($12725)
VILLAIN (BB) ($16950)

Preflop: HERO is SB with 8, 10, 9, 7
VILLAIN bets $150, HERO raises to $450, VILLAIN raises to $1125, HERO calls $675

Flop: ($2250) 6, 4, Q (2 players)
HERO bets $1850, VILLAIN calls $1850

Turn: ($5950) 5 (2 players)
HERO bets $5950, VILLAIN raises to $13975 (All-In), HERO calls $3800 (All-In)

River: ($25450) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $25450 | Rake: $0

Spoiler:

HERO had 8, 10, 9, 7 (straight, nine high).
VILLAIN had 2, A, A, 4 (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: HERO won $25450
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04-16-2012 , 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Haris
GIF ANYONE? Bonus points: he quit after this hand and I ended session up 5.5k after being stuck almost 30 and busto if it hit 50

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $50.00 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

HERO (SB) ($12725)
VILLAIN (BB) ($16950)



Preflop: HERO is SB with 8, 10, 9, 7



VILLAIN bets $150, HERO raises to $450,



VILLAIN raises to $1125, HERO calls $675



Flop: ($2250) 6, 4, Q (2 players)
HERO bets $1850, VILLAIN calls $1850



Turn: ($5950) 5 (2 players)



HERO bets $5950, VILLAIN raises to $13975 (All-In), HERO calls $3800 (All-In)



River: ($25450) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)



Total pot: $25450 | Rake: $0

Spoiler:

HERO had 8, 10, 9, 7 (straight, nine high).
VILLAIN had 2, A, A, 4 (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: HERO won $25450


Meh.
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04-16-2012 , 05:31 PM
Jake and amir gif
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04-16-2012 , 05:33 PM
lol i have no idea how you guys find all the gifs but i chuckle every time

nicely done jabonator
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04-16-2012 , 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Haris
GIF ANYONE? Bonus points: he quit after this hand and I ended session up 5.5k after being stuck almost 30 and busto if it hit 50
so u played HU with a 10 BI roll,

may i hear a reasoning behind this?
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