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03-23-2012 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Quasar30
Do you hate fish?
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03-23-2012 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ISILDRppN
Yes ur spot on
i think so, i had no idea what that site was before, now i looking into getting money on their lol ty


have any names should look out for while at it?
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03-23-2012 , 10:01 PM
you have to be sweedish joey, ever wondered why retje lives in sweeden
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03-24-2012 , 12:55 AM
$10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (SB) ($9,547.77)
BB ($3,196.10)

Pre-Flop: ($30, 2 players) Hero is SB J 6 J 6
Hero raises to $40, BB raises to $120, Hero calls $80

Flop: Q 10 6 ($240, 2 players)
BB bets $239.50, Hero calls $239.50

Turn: 3 ($719, 2 players)
BB bets $718.50, Hero raises to $2,874, BB goes all-in $2,118.10

River: 4 ($6,392.20, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $6,392.20
Hero shows three of a kind, Sixes
J 6 J 6
BB shows a straight, Three to Seven
7 Q 6 5

BB wins $6,391.70 (net +$3,195.60)

Hero collects $37.40 (net -$3,196.10)

someone gif this.

I'd have some more but too tilted to go through them. I was like 11 - 14k up against this moron and ended up -16k or something. He 3bet 60 - 90% depending how tilt (& high?) he was and always cbetting pot.

obv impossible to beat player like that when deep.

fml
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03-24-2012 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
pretty sick.

you need to set up some deterrent to make sure you quit for good!

think of how nice it will be to quit flips forever as a winner after everything you've been thru.

make it so that you are forced to donate like 10K to someone you really really despise
this way it will hurt way too badly to ever flip again.
stealthmunk here to volunteer to help urubu fix his life
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03-24-2012 , 08:15 AM
Warning to High Stakes PLO Community / uburu11 -

Try__An__Hit will fold in flips on purpose


Vaga_Lion said, "how much u wnat to flip?"
Try__An__Hit said, "what ever you want"
Vaga_Lion said, "5?"
Vaga_Lion said, "flip this 5800?"
Try__An__Hit said, "k yea"
Try__An__Hit said, "this hand"

we flip, I lose, i ask for one more and he folds on the 2nd one...

Vaga_Lion said, "6?"
Try__An__Hit said, "sure"



PokerStars Hand #77721553427: Omaha Pot Limit ($100/$200 USD) - 2012/03/24 8:02:07 ET
Table 'Werra IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: Vaga_Lion ($6000 in chips)
Seat 3: Try__An__Hit ($23996 in chips)
Try__An__Hit: posts small blind $100
Vaga_Lion: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vaga_Lion [Qh 9s Jh 9h]
Vaga_Lion said, "?"
Try__An__Hit: folds
Uncalled bet ($100) returned to Vaga_Lion
Try__An__Hit leaves the table
Vaga_Lion collected $200 from pot
Vaga_Lion: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $200 | Rake $0
Seat 2: Vaga_Lion (big blind) collected ($200)
Seat 3: Try__An__Hit (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
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03-24-2012 , 08:40 AM
Ugly. He posts on here, doesn't he?
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03-24-2012 , 08:41 AM
that really sucks vaga

I have notes on that guy constantly hit and running me, seems like a massive scumbag
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03-24-2012 , 03:53 PM
Q to Danish players;
In the netherlands they are currently making new gambling regulations. People frequently refer to the "danish system", where people remain on the international .com site, but taxation duty is not the players responsibility but the providers.
- in france, pokersites have very high rake to pay or the taxation. How is this done in denmark? You play on the international site, so rake should be normal? Do pokersites just pay the tax out of their profit margin?
- do you guys feel like your currently living in a "poker tax heaven", or are there issues i m missing here?

Thanks in advance for any info.
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03-24-2012 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by joeri
Q to Danish players;
In the netherlands they are currently making new gambling regulations. People frequently refer to the "danish system", where people remain on the international .com site, but taxation duty is not the players responsibility but the providers.
- in france, pokersites have very high rake to pay or the taxation. How is this done in denmark? You play on the international site, so rake should be normal? Do pokersites just pay the tax out of their profit margin?
- do you guys feel like your currently living in a "poker tax heaven", or are there issues i m missing here?

Thanks in advance for any info.
danish players can only play on sites thats buys a license from the goverment.i assume its very likely pokerstars will buy one so they can operate in netherlands
currently there have not been a rake increase for players playing through pokerstars.dk
20 % of the rake paid by the danish players playing through pokerstars.dk goes to the the danish goverment.
so yes basicly tax heaven.
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03-24-2012 , 06:14 PM
@joeri

We, the Danish players, play at .dk sites like pokerstars.dk but its part of the entire network so no difference. You still play against the entire player pool.

The sites pay the Danish goverment for a license to provide gambling to Danish players and they pay taxes on rake taken from Danish players. The rake is the same as before since we play on the same tables as everyone else.

Oh, and winnings are taxfree from sites with a Danish license.
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03-24-2012 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by joeri
Q to Danish players;
In the netherlands they are currently making new gambling regulations. People frequently refer to the "danish system", where people remain on the international .com site, but taxation duty is not the players responsibility but the providers.
- in france, pokersites have very high rake to pay or the taxation. How is this done in denmark? You play on the international site, so rake should be normal? Do pokersites just pay the tax out of their profit margin?
- do you guys feel like your currently living in a "poker tax heaven", or are there issues i m missing here?

Thanks in advance for any info.
AFAIK rake is the same, but there's a significant decrease in the VIP system value, something like 15% less compared to .com .

It's the same in Belgium, only the decrease in value is slighter because Belgium taxation is milder.

In Estonia the taxation is so small (5% on gross profit) that the VIP system stayed the same, PokerStars pay everything from their pockets.

It's the standard way in which PokerStars adjust to the different legislations. The flexibility of the VIP system finally pays off.
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03-25-2012 , 04:49 AM
http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...rch/serioga112

$2/$4 Ante $0.80 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN LenaKab ($414.60)
SB tracyer ($1,504.02)
BB serioga112 ($1,125.10)

Pre-Flop: ($8.40, 3 players) tracyer is SB K 8 J J
LenaKab folds, tracyer raises to $12, serioga112 calls $8

Flop: 5 5 J ($26.40, 2 players)
tracyer bets $20, serioga112 raises to $46.08, tracyer raises to $120, serioga112 calls $73.92

Turn: 4 ($266.40, 2 players)
tracyer bets $228, serioga112 calls $228

River: Q ($722.40, 2 players)
tracyer bets $664, serioga112 goes all-in $764.30, tracyer calls $100.30

Final Pot: $2,251
tracyer shows a full house, Jacks full of Fives
K 8 J J
serioga112 shows four of a kind, Fives
5 10 A 5

serioga112 wins $2,249.50 (net +$1,124.40)

tracyer lost $1,125.10

gg.
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03-25-2012 , 06:53 AM
Tnx guys. Looks good. Only small setback I did't know about yet was a small decrease in vpp bonus benefits. But it seems that a system like this is awsome for the players. Let's hope the dutch government stays away from the "french and italian" model then. But since the south of Europe isn't really seen as a good roll model in government here...
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03-25-2012 , 06:56 AM
As a fallow up question; How are live tourney scores taxed in Denmark? Is it the same if you win within the EU (ept's) as if you win outside (WSOP)?
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03-25-2012 , 06:58 AM
I strongly believe the regulations is really good for the games, if the rake % stays the same for the players it will imo be a good thing for poker. It will bring many many new recreational players into the games (which stays away from poker nowadays since its kinda "illegal" in some countries..) + in some cases it will even reduce the rake from some players (beacuse the site pays some/all taxes)...

EDIT: One big issue is if some goverments decides to split the player pool (one allowed for the given country etc, like pokerstars.fr) then it could turn out really bad .
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03-25-2012 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by joeri
As a fallow up question; How are live tourney scores taxed in Denmark? Is it the same if you win within the EU (ept's) as if you win outside (WSOP)?
Taxfree within the European Union - taxed outside of it.
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03-25-2012 , 08:18 AM
Brag: Stars support finally unlocked my account. its been only the better part of year since i left the states but w/e
Beat: only had about £500 in the account

Variance: flipped for it and lost
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03-25-2012 , 08:19 AM
lol
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03-25-2012 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
EDIT: One big issue is if some goverments decides to split the player pool (one allowed for the given country etc, like pokerstars.fr) then it could turn out really bad .
France, Italy and soon to be Spain are a huge hit obv, but there are rumours these countries will try to merge their pools. This will be awesome because it will be the first step towards a EU wide regulation.

If we want Zynga players to spend real money in our games, regulation is a must.
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03-25-2012 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
I strongly believe the regulations is really good for the games, if the rake % stays the same for the players it will imo be a good thing for poker. It will bring many many new recreational players into the games (which stays away from poker nowadays since its kinda "illegal" in some countries..) + in some cases it will even reduce the rake from some players (beacuse the site pays some/all taxes)...

EDIT: One big issue is if some goverments decides to split the player pool (one allowed for the given country etc, like pokerstars.fr) then it could turn out really bad .
Yeah exactly my thoughts.
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03-25-2012 , 10:58 AM
I am sending vega 1k for what happend. Laptop cut out and could not get back on. Was put in hand before with 442T rainbow, so obviously is not an angle.
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03-25-2012 , 12:54 PM
don't trust this scumbag grimmer

http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...rch/hateAll686
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03-25-2012 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Try__An__Hit
I am sending vega 1k for what happend. Laptop cut out and could not get back on. Was put in hand before with 442T rainbow, so obviously is not an angle.
$1000? That's bull****, send him back his 5800.
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03-25-2012 , 10:54 PM
if he really did shove the hand before with t224r then 1k is fine...
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