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11-25-2010 , 08:55 PM

#5751

SuchARush

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 322

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPred123

yep i know, but bbv'ers doesnt

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Originally Posted by SuchARush

Not too relevant in your situation at all, but it seems like every time some reg runs over EV they say that EV doesnt tell the whole story. U saw that in dickemmp (or something) well too, ran sick much over EV over 750k and was convincing himself I must run terrible in non EV spots etc. How can u tell that?? So much psychology thats affect that its so hard to estimate.

Again, this is not relevant for ur situation but i have seen a couple of "EV doesnt tell the whole story" and just wanted to pointed out the fact that the EV is more likely to be closer to ur "real winrate" than the actually winnings.

(And i know there is so much more to it than EV, but u cant estimate it correctly over large samples)

And the brain reacts two times(or something) as hard on losses than wins

this!

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11-25-2010 , 09:45 PM

#5752

machado

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 329

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkypete

mbn to only be 40k below EV over that time period

Am I aloud to complain now or not yet ? Its getting worse every day. This game is so sick its even funny. It would be so nice if the site just gave back ur ev money hehe. I also donated a lot at 2/4 drunk and pissed of getting robbed at higher stakes.

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11-25-2010 , 09:57 PM

#5753

Andykay

adept

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 985

Quote:

Originally Posted by antchev

This hand summons up my 2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($1,005)
Hero ($407)
UTG ($767)
CO ($1,153)
BTN ($1,056)

CO antes $0.80
BTN antes $0.80
SB antes $0.80
Hero antes $0.80
UTG antes $0.80

Dealt to Hero A

fold, fold, BTN raises to $18, fold, Hero raises to $60, BTN raises to $186, Hero raises to $406 (AI), BTN calls $220

FLOP ($819) K

TURN ($819) K

RIVER ($819) K A

K K

BTN shows 8

K Q

A
(Pre 25%, Flop 15.7%, Turn 2.5%)

Hero shows A A 5

(Pre 75%, Flop 84.3%, Turn 97.5%)

BTN wins $817

Yep, that hand was fun.

FLOP - Oooh, gutter, gogo!
TURN - Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
RIVER - *does a small dance*

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11-26-2010 , 12:48 PM

#5754

SEABEAST

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,674

i has been thieving all ur equities!

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11-26-2010 , 12:51 PM

#5755

DPred123

banned

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,079

can'ttellifgraphisreal

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11-26-2010 , 12:52 PM

#5756

Adiprene1

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,190

lol absolute poker

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11-26-2010 , 01:35 PM

#5757

SEABEAST

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,674

ah its ftp/stars. just for some reason i made the alias my AP SN

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11-26-2010 , 02:24 PM

#5758

stinkypete

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,785

mbn seabeast

if i ran that good over the last few months i'd have an extra house or so.

one day.

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11-26-2010 , 03:12 PM

#5759

kutty

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,482

did you win 25k on your last hand of that graph?

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11-26-2010 , 04:07 PM

#5760

Doorbread

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,970

I kinda want something bad to happen to you. Not terrible, just bad.

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11-26-2010 , 05:46 PM

#5761

Borys313

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,853

Another month went wrong, thats 9 out 10 months below EV.
Finished SNE in Septmber made 5 weeks holiday and now played some but its same ******** all the time.

1.1M VPP now btw.

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11-26-2010 , 05:50 PM

#5762

Roy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,447

get the **** out of here calling that a month gone wrong.

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11-26-2010 , 05:57 PM

#5763

stinkypete

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,785

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy

get the **** out of here calling that a month gone wrong.

seriously. if you offered me ~90% of my EV every month i'd take it in a heartbeat.

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11-26-2010 , 05:59 PM

#5764

Borys313

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,853

I didnt have a single month above EV, 9 below and one at EV this year.

That just PLO, I am alot below EV in NLHE, SNGs and geting killed whenever I play 10/20+ live.

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11-26-2010 , 06:01 PM

#5765

stinkypete

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Borys313

I didnt have a single month above EV, 9 below and one at EV this year.

who cares?

that's all irrelevant. how much under EV are you for the year? like 5k? big woopee

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11-26-2010 , 06:05 PM

#5766

Borys313

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,853

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkypete

who cares?

that's all irrelevant. how much under EV are you for the year? like 5k? big woopee

About 250K below from online play and I dont put more then 1K at a table.

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11-26-2010 , 06:08 PM

#5767

stinkypete

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,785

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borys313

About 250K below from online play and I dont put more then 1K at a table.

see now you have a legitimate bbv complaint!

high five!

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11-26-2010 , 06:11 PM

#5768

Borys313

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,853

9 out of 10 months below EV is more legit for me, thats bottom 1% of luck and makes it very hard to build a roll when I have to cashout.

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11-26-2010 , 07:36 PM

#5769

DPred123

banned

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,079

a whole lot of shortstackers itt!!!!!

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11-26-2010 , 08:27 PM

#5770

wazz

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,659

somehow, borys, i feel no sympathy for you whatsoever

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11-26-2010 , 08:34 PM

#5771

stinkypete

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,785

also according to that graph you won $60k this month after breaking even all year. and this is a bad month? lol

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11-26-2010 , 09:01 PM

#5772

gordo16

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,155

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkypete

mbn seabeast

if i ran that good over the last few months i'd have an extra house or so.

one day.

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

seriously. if you offered me ~90% of my EV every month i'd take it in a heartbeat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkypete

who cares?

that's all irrelevant. how much under EV are you for the year? like 5k? big woopee

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

see now you have a legitimate bbv complaint!

high five!

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

also according to that graph you won $60k this month after breaking even all year. and this is a bad month? lol

stop.

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11-26-2010 , 09:19 PM

#5773

wazz

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,659

of the range of comments you could use to reply to gordo there, we feel that the above is not one that makes you look good (none do, to be fair)

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11-26-2010 , 09:32 PM

#5774

2+2=5

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,540

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazz

somehow, borys, i feel no sympathy for you whatsoever

why? he is a bad guy or what?

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11-26-2010 , 09:37 PM

#5775

antchev

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,768

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borys313

9 out of 10 months below EV is more legit for me, thats bottom 1% of luck and makes it very hard to build a roll when I have to cashout.

How about 11 out of 11? Whining about a 57K month when you've lost 3K the past 10 months is not classy, IMO. Plus I'm pretty sure HEM is broken for shorties, it's just not right.