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I am not a shortie, I play deep up to 3/6, and with 40bb up 10/20, I only shortstack 25/50 and not because I think its most profitable to do so but simply because I have a rule of not puting more then 1K at a table cause I am ****ing broke all the time. I used to SSS holdem for about a year but thats another story.

Thats my graph for stacks of 100bb and more this year, 10BB/100 or >1$ per hand is rather good for someone who you say has no idea how to full stack.





If I only wasnt running so **** halfstacking (all my trainwreck come from 50-100bb stack size that is halfstacking).

I don't see your reason for complaint, actually. Sorry.

Yeah, seriously, can people stop moaning about running under their AIEV? Getting a bit ridic, doesn't make you look good.

Hello, Wazz. Welcome to bbv.

One thing funny is that the people running good ev wise always laugh at people running bad. It has been the same for 2 years (as long as I can remember actually). I'm sure I could dig and find gordo and gavz whining about their luck/AIEV etc at some point but now that their luck turned around AIEV is meaningless and should be disregarded. gg no re imo. I'd bet that when they are back to -200-300BI below ev they'll come back whining for some reality check, seems to be the nature of PLO.

hey borys, you shortstack 2/4..

I think so too

try it.

Seems bullheaded not to consider the methodology of other successful players. I've lived by the line and I have lived without it and I am presenting the good news.. one method has left me better off in terms of happiness and dollars. The experiment has been replicated by many. I'm yet to hear of someone who has tried this in reverse and said the same no reason why this couldn't be the case I suppose.

as far as more information = better decisions.. well that's imbalanced....more information = the opportunity to make better decisions and only that, this is the real world not theory craft, you'll need some extra ingredients to balance that equation...

the logical reason to me is this, any attention spent verifying your prowess as a poker player through aggregate results can be more efficiently spent elsewhere.

my reasoning for the premise? I look at my EV or even AIEV after X hands to verify I am playing well and see 5 bb/100. What have I gained? A blind sense of confidence in my game that isn't traced back or specifically reinforced by any of the things I did well? It applies a 'doing well' label to the whole body of decisions. Next time I come to a tough decision what do I have to work with as a result? 'I'm a good player, I'll make the right decision'. That is not the type of confidence that stays with you or helps you continue to make good decisions when the cards aren't falling as you'd like. Would my time not be better spent even working through a single hand to determine whether a decision was correct? Now I a can confidently apply that to a specific situation many times over in the future.

On a micro level EV calculations are an invaluable tool for seeking out good decisions and building confidence, on an aggregate level they are a distraction and tend to delude people whether that ought to be the case or not, it is.

Just look at all the time we are blowing talking about it right now.

Just my two cents on it, I've spent a lot of time thinking about the mental effects of things like this on poker because that's where I find my edge. Don't want to get into a catty forum thing, it is entirely possible you are using it in a way most of us or not to great benefit, please spill the beans!

I do agree that looking at ev during a session is stupid. But disregarding it is just silly. It might not tell you the whole story, but at least helps you and motivates you when u r losing a ton and with no confidence and you check your ev and you see that you still probably know how to play the game and just needs to face variance. Especially when you are moving up that you need confidence if you start losing, otherwise ull think the player at the new limits are genious and that you play bad. If youve been playing the same stakes for a while, I agree that ev is less needed since you already have volume and information to know if you beat the stakes or not.

Another thing that its true is what mig said. When I won 100 bis at 5/10 on august and september running above ev I also thought that ev meant nothing and that I was just a super genious.

right. without all in EV i'd have every reason in the world to believe i'm a massive winner at 5/10 and a loser at 10/20+. if i subscribed to your theory that its not constructive to observe that i'm 7bb/100 below EV at 10/20 i'd quit playing that game and in all likelihood cost myself a ton of money.

and like i said earlier, i've spotted and corrected leaks in my game (including a huge one) largely thanks to HEM's graphing tools. there are certain things that can't easily be analyzed hand by hand via equity calculations etc, and for those it helps massively to have an estimate of your expectation that converges a lot faster than actual results. (and again, the shorter the stack you play, the more useful it is over a smaller sample)

i can obv see why those of you who run hot want to believe its wishwash, but i've had several people, thinking they have some superior "knowledge" based on their 300k sample tell me that all in EV is busted, only to come back crying and asking me to explain how it works when they run bad.

Need 10k on FT for my PS if anyone is around pm me

SP,

Have you ever made a post that isnt about AIEV

not in this thread! i did post about an AA hand in this subforum once tho

EDIT: also posted about a sandwich

got it !

me too, thanks!

No I dont and I am almost sure I never did SS that stake (I do initial buy in for 40BB at 2/4 but that another story)

I have several 1000BB+ pots both at 2/4 and 3/6 stored in my HEM.

I see no reason why it should be broken but definitly agree on the part "its just not right" :P

uhm, so buying in with 40BBs is not shortstacking?

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Neither full nor short, also I dont quit after spinning up my stack.


Poker Stars $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN/SB: $692.70
Hero (BB): $1189.90

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with Q Q T 8
BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $36, BTN/SB raises to $108, Hero calls $72

Flop: ($216.00) 6 7 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $215.50, Hero raises to $862, BTN/SB calls $369.20 all in

Turn: ($1385.40) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($1385.40) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $1385.40
BTN/SB shows 9 8 T J
Hero shows Q Q T 8
Hero wins $1384.90
(Rake: $0.50)

Random hand from today, is that SS?

looooool. are u proud?

btw i had a $1600 stack at 3/6 today! very proud!

proof?

You guys are cute!

I don't think this is necessarily true.

http://www.mypostingcareer.com/forum...ty-of-systems/

Another example of more information having an adverse impact on one's mind is investing. I know that Warren Buffett values a company BEFORE he looks at the stock ticker, because if he looks at the ticker before he will be affected by it. This is called Anchoring. This is also why ppl won't post results when they post a hand history for analysis.

Maybe you are better off looking at your EV graph, but there are definitely (logical) arguments against using EV software.

How come buying in for 40BB isn't short-stacking? Isn't that the minimum buy-in for some games/sites?