Why not take a few weeks off and enjoy the summer. Thats definitely a bad mindset to be playing in.

lolll

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $10(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($1,064)
($1,493)

Dealt to Hero Q 2 K 4

raises to $20, Hero raises to $60, calls $40

FLOP ($120) 8 5 J

Hero bets $70, calls $70

TURN ($260) 8 5 J 3

Hero bets $180, calls $180

RIVER ($620) 8 5 J 3 8

Hero checks, checks

Hero shows Q 2 K 4
(Pre 56%, Flop 55.5%, Turn 62.5%)

shows 9 6 7 T
(Pre 44%, Flop 44.5%, Turn 37.5%)

Hero wins $619
Villain shows 967T

checking that river is a disaster, imo

^

he's never folding a jack

yeah but he can fold A9T, 99Tx etc.

hmm, this is true

what's your betsizing?

LOL at not folding a jack, BUT folding 99 or TT.. Hero is never valuebetting or bluffing with a jack here, so Jx=99=TT in this spot. Feel free to disagree.

I think I would bet ~3/5 of the pot

against a total fish bet anything over like 50 bucks atleast. i would never ever check

DP said it.

well i'd be repping a very narrow range. And this guy in particular would not fold a jack here, esp vs a 3/5 pot bet. My bet would solely be to take it down against busted straight n flush draws

If you're playing a good opponent I think the bet is not as clear as people are making it out to be.

It's a pretty tempting spot for a hero call versus someone who has the standardly narrow vbetting range there. Also I wouldn't expect villain to have many Axxx hands that are folding, so KQ is not that much worse than AK in terms of showdown value (but still worse of course).

Don't get me wrong I would bluff myself if I got there with K-high, but I don't really 3-bet junky hands so it's really rare for me to have K-high no pair here. (Since the J or 8 would hit me quite often with my K-high hands, and I'm not normally double-barreling without some kind of solid draw as well).


If you routinely value overpairs here (which is really not standard in my experience although maybe it should be) then your bet is a lot more credible.

overpair would be the easiest value bet of all time since people dont really bluff in this spot when checked to

What's your calling range when raised after v-betting here?

8x+

u really think someone would minraise bluff there for 100bb stacks?

I didn't notice stacks but in any case they obviously should bluff if you're betting overpairs+ and folding overpairs.

i thought this hand was vs a fish. things of course change when playing someone capable of thinking

definitely, but how many people are going to do that?

I take your point of course but it's still worth thinking about.

Also if we generalize to the more common situation of people who always double-barrel overpairs when bottom or middle pair on the flop pairs, there are definitely good players who will sometimes exploit you there.

you're repping an overpair or an 8

thank god pokerstars isnt rigged.

one small session at 2/4. Didnt play bad at all. No tilt


And on top of that, flotsamfiend and kdij were being dbags. No surprise there

3 days, 3 keyboards. Happy times

lmao.

edit: yeah floatsamfiend and kdij are both *******s in my experience playing with them. oh and lol kdij, you don't even beat the games. you should probably just keep your mouth shut.

kdij is just so lol clueless its funny

flotsamfiend is a class act imo. Most everyone goes off and bitches at times as plo regs. For those that dont, I find it incredibly impressive and admirable (ie PBJaxx, Mcballa, 011880, couple others). But for the most part, people are gonna go nuts at times. Usually it means they are tilting and you can take advantage (at least this is the case with me when im tooling out.....or is it?). Dpred, Ill raise your run bad with mine during the first day of July. Im happy with it tho.

nah, I think flotsam is the biggest dbag out there. Or he just hates me