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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
392 46.83%
No
290 34.65%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
155 18.52%

01-14-2011 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach Belden
grunching: yes wtf is wrong with you
People are concerned because pit bulls have locking jaws and feel no pain. They can be set off in an instant without any provocation and will kill whatever they are looking at at the time.
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01-14-2011 , 02:42 PM
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When officers arrived, they say the dogs were on top of her and had blood around their mouths. Police spokesperson Jeff Kappel says the dogs charged the officers and one of them opened fire.
**** that's intense.
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01-14-2011 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Freakin
People are concerned because pit bulls have locking jaws and feel no pain. They can be set off in an instant without any provocation and will kill whatever they are looking at at the time.
Don't forget that their brains swell up making them go completely crazy. Also owners bear zero responsibility. It's all on the dog. And finally search as we might, we weren't able to come up with one confirmed case of a pit that is a sweet loving family dog, and not a depraved baby-killing machine.
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01-14-2011 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
Grunch:

The main problem is the owners, but that having been said pitbulls are still naturally more aggressive and dangerous than most other breeds because they've been bred that way.
yes, even on that "pitbulls and parolees" show, even the pit bull loving woman said that the "blue" pitbulls (grey with a bluish tint to there fur) in being bred to look that way also are very likely to become aggressive problem dogs.
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05-11-2011 , 07:14 PM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...it-1370739.php
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Weary of mending the mauled victims of dog attacks, doctors and nurses looked back at 15 years of serious bite injuries treated at University Hospital and produced a study likely to offer new ammunition for those looking to ban or regulate pit bulls.

They found that attacks by pit bulls were more likely to kill people than those by other breeds. In fact, all three deaths seen at the hospital during the period — two children and a 90-year-old man — were from pit bull attacks, records showed. A fourth fatality wasn't seen at the hospital, a 64-year-old Von Ormy man also killed by a pit bull, death records show.

In addition, they found that pit bulls caused more serious injuries — injuries more likely to put their victims in the hospital. Once admitted, those victims rang up higher medical costs.
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Among the grisly statistics the study cites: Pit bulls were responsible for 65 percent of all fatal dog attacks nationally in 2008. In Texas in 2007, seven fatal attacks occurred, six involving pit bulls.
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05-11-2011 , 07:21 PM
Forget the dogs, there's a ton of people who shouldn't be allowed to breed.
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05-11-2011 , 08:21 PM
Didn't read thread, just recently saw it but me and my roomate rescued a pitbull, I've had labs growing up, hes had golden retrievers. We take him to the dog park basically every day and hes one of the few dogs there that has never had an incident with another dog. He's the nicest best demeanor dog I've ever been around and most every pitbull owner I've run into say the same thing. The "pitbulls are evil" is an awful myth, its 100% on the owner- like saying kids are bad when the parents are fn idiots.
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05-12-2011 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CULions
Didn't read thread, just recently saw it but me and my roomate rescued a pitbull, I've had labs growing up, hes had golden retrievers. We take him to the dog park basically every day and hes one of the few dogs there that has never had an incident with another dog. He's the nicest best demeanor dog I've ever been around and most every pitbull owner I've run into say the same thing. The "pitbulls are evil" is an awful myth, its 100% on the owner- like saying kids are bad when the parents are fn idiots.
Nice! I said the exact same thing a long time ago in this thread.
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05-12-2011 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog

AND?
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05-12-2011 , 02:13 PM
Holy crap are you guys saying there are some nice pit bulls that don't maul babies? Well this changes everything. I was under the impression every single one was a bloodthirsty killer with locking jaws. Clearly we cannot discriminate against these good pits just because of a few thousand maulings a year.
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05-12-2011 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CULions
Didn't read thread, just recently saw it but me and my roomate rescued a pitbull, I've had labs growing up, hes had golden retrievers. We take him to the dog park basically every day and hes one of the few dogs there that has never had an incident with another dog. He's the nicest best demeanor dog I've ever been around and most every pitbull owner I've run into say the same thing. The "pitbulls are evil" is an awful myth, its 100% on the owner- like saying kids are bad when the parents are fn idiots.
I also owned a pitbull and it was the sweetest thing ever. With that said 1 pitbull isnt enough to base an opinion on that is worth anything. I dont know if they should be allowed to breed or not but when I hear of dog attacks the dog is usually a pit.




Id say we really need to look at the long term stats to make an opinion. Anything other then that is just chin music which is more then likely 90%+ of this thread. Id really like to see the recorded stats on dog attacks over the last 20 years in the US. Once we get that there is no more opinion there is only fact of whether this dog is violent or not.
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05-12-2011 , 02:24 PM
In summation - no one's arguing that there aren't good pits. And no one's arguing that owners aren't usually to blame when a pit goes bad.

The point is that it seems to be a lot easier to go bad with a pit. They seem to be naturally dog aggressive unless raised right. And compared to other breeds a pit attack is generally more vicious, lasts longer and often occurs without warning.
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05-12-2011 , 02:38 PM
I have a question and it seems to kinda fit in here maybe:

A neighbor of mine has a pit bull and he lets him walk freely unleashed in his little unfenced front patio area in front of his apartment while the owner is there too.

I'm not a dog owner so I don't know what the etiquette is for dealing with this but I can't say I really like having to walk by the unleashed dog. What would you guys do?
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05-12-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by derosnec
I have a question and it seems to kinda fit in here maybe:

A neighbor of mine has a pit bull and he lets him walk freely unleashed in his little unfenced front patio area in front of his apartment while the owner is there too.

I'm not a dog owner so I don't know what the etiquette is for dealing with this but I can't say I really like having to walk by the unleashed dog. What would you guys do?
I would def. start by asking the owner if you feel comfortable talking to him about it, if not I'd make a call to animal control about it. Do you have a leash law in your area?
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05-12-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by derosnec
I'm not a dog owner so I don't know what the etiquette is for dealing with this but I can't say I really like having to walk by the unleashed dog. What would you guys do?
Not be a pussy.

People are not required to leash animals on their own property afaik.
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05-12-2011 , 04:34 PM
Hey guys -

Not sure if it's been posted ITT before, but here is a good link that dispels some of the more common myths about pitbulls

http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html
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05-12-2011 , 06:13 PM
Nice link, thanks for sharing. I have volunteered at shelters and worked with pits and never had a bad experience personally. I wouldn't leave one unattended with a child, but I wouldn't leave any dog unattended with a child that could cause significant harm.
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05-12-2011 , 06:19 PM
I don't think any animal with locking jaws should be kept as a pet.
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05-12-2011 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
In summation - no one's arguing that there aren't good pits. And no one's arguing that owners aren't usually to blame when a pit goes bad.

The point is that it seems to be a lot easier to go bad with a pit. They seem to be naturally dog aggressive unless raised right. And compared to other breeds a pit attack is generally more vicious, lasts longer and often occurs without warning.
Prove this isn't entirely correlated to how ****ing stupid their owner is. I have a 115lb Akita who I know is VERY dog aggressive, but will lick the face off your baby before he bit it. He has been charged by dogs in my neighborhood twice (one was a lab, and the other a golden; both were off-leash in unfenced front yards... i.e. their owners are ****ing morons; both had hackles up and weren't looking to play), and he didn't make a move because I have a handle on him. One of those dogs tried to take it a little further and learned a lesson vis-a-vis my arm, his collar, and gravity (owner didn't like that; again all signs pointing to these people being morons).

There are A LOT of people who I believe have no business owning any kind of real dog (50lb+) of any breed. My parents breed/show Akitas and the number of puppies they've placed that have had to be placed a second time is absurd (and they do screen owners). Just because some people have no idea how to handle these breeds, does not mean they should not exist. There are a lot of people who have no business drinking alcohol. Let's make alcohol illegal.
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05-12-2011 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spyderracing
Prove this isn't entirely correlated to how ****ing stupid their owner is. I have a 115lb Akita who I know is VERY dog aggressive, but will lick the face off your baby before he bit it. He has been charged by dogs in my neighborhood twice (one was a lab, and the other a golden; both were off-leash in unfenced front yards... i.e. their owners are ****ing morons; both had hackles up and weren't looking to play), and he didn't make a move because I have a handle on him. One of those dogs tried to take it a little further and learned a lesson vis-a-vis my arm, his collar, and gravity (owner didn't like that; again all signs pointing to these people being morons).

There are A LOT of people who I believe have no business owning any kind of real dog (50lb+) of any breed. My parents breed/show Akitas and the number of puppies they've placed that have had to be placed a second time is absurd (and they do screen owners). Just because some people have no idea how to handle these breeds, does not mean they should not exist. There are a lot of people who have no business drinking alcohol. Let's make alcohol illegal.
You're proving suzzer's point though. A terrible dog owner with a yorkshire terrier isn't dangerous. A terrible dog owner with a pit bull is a recipe for disaster. Unfortunately the look of pit bulls attracts terrible dog owners.
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05-12-2011 , 09:59 PM
Should OP be allowed to breed? The world would be better off with less people.
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05-12-2011 , 10:03 PM
LOCKING JAW!??!?!
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05-12-2011 , 10:27 PM
I don't think people should be allowed to breed any animal without a license and training. Shelters all over the US are full of unwanted animals due to irresponsible breeding.
That being said, pitbulls are great people loving dogs that can be highly animal aggressive without the proper training and socalization. It is very rare for a pure-bred pitbull to be human aggressive. If these dogs were as aggressive towards humans as some people itt think, there would be far more attacks reported due to the high number of these dogs in this country. An average of three deaths per year attributed to pitbulls is a very small number considering that there are probably a million or more of these dogs in the US.
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05-13-2011 , 01:39 AM
Someone explain the general rationale for owning a pit or giant/dangerous dog versus something that can't usually **** people/other dogs up seriously as a pet...

I've been bitten by a large Sheltie and a rottweiler. Guess which required emergency medical care? Guess which was put down afterward? Guess which was regularly breaking its goddamned chain and stalking the neighborhood, attacking things? Never heard of rogue golden stalking a neighborhood...

Small/harmless dogs can be just as loyal/energetic as pits, but without deathlock jaws and cinder block heads and a vampiric thirst for blood and murder.

Also have had relatives that needed to put down a giant ass husky due to aggression. Thing is, you don't have to put down smaller/weaker breeds due to aggression so much because even if they are aggressive they pose a much smaller threat (and God knows some of the tiny chihuahua type dogs I've met here deserved to be part of some nice fried rice or soup dish).

pits/dobermans/etc: why get one when you can get a golden/shepherd dog/etc?
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05-13-2011 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DDNK
pits/dobermans/etc: why get one when you can get a golden/shepherd dog/etc?
why do ppl like rap music and spinning rims?

#thuglife

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