Not the same as actually training it. Pitbulls are very smart and are very much trainable. I have been around both aggresive pitbulls and non aggressive ones. The difference is ALWAYS the owner.

went looking for a pit yesterday, the shelter we went to had about 18 dogs and 12 were some form of pit.

crazy high % for the breed.

Found a few i liked, the one my girl no sold quickly cause he was cold at first, then relaxed around me, then slumped against the chain so i could pet him but still kept turning one eye towards me like he was expecting me to just clock him from the side when he wasn't looking. Beautiful pit w/ one brown and 1 blue eye, he's missing half an ear cause he was used for fighting and left for dead after getting owned in a fight.

problem with my girl is that some of them are characterized as bad w cats, bad w dogs and bad w children or some mix of those traits.

As she has small nieces and nephews and we'll prolly plop out babies in the future the no kids is a problem. The no other dogs is to be expected (although i'd like to be able to teach it to at least get along with other dogs under highly supervised situations), and no cats is a slight problem because we're close to taking in a stray cat too.....

obv kinda rambling

i came home and popped open this thread and it definitely gave me more concern about the decision to bring in a pit but by the time i read this cover to cover i still want one. I'm glad for the gem that the kennel owner added too, reaffirming my decision to pick up a shelter pit. it really is brutally sad seeing all these dogs just so forgotten about and starved for affection.....


going back today to feel them all out again, prolly have a new buddy by next week.


oh mix eyed pit pic ftw.

Dog is beautiful Willie, nice to hear you are thinking about giving him a home. Had a pit mix once, formerly abused (broken ribs, scars) and the dog turned out to be the most awesome loving pet you could ask for. Had a pregnant cat abandoned on my doorstep 3 days before giving birth, and the dog acted liked the kittens were her own.

No such thing as a bad breed. Just like there is no such thing as a bad race, nationality, etc. Each dog should be judged as an individual. I have volunteered with animals in the past, and have never had a bad experience with a Pit. Ever. I had a golden retriever try to attack me once though.

pits

Willie -

It's the same in my area re: % of pits and pit mixes in our shelter. I do think it's by far the most popular breed in the area though, so it makes sense to some degree. still depressing.

Pits are the vast majority of shelter dogs because they are the most popular breed?

More like they're the most disposed of dog by their usually young, immature, male, dumbass owners after they realize they are actual work and they can't handle them.



I'm the biggest fan of dogs out there, but that is just the fact of the matter. Pretty much nationwide.

If you ever want to leave your dog in a room with a child then DONT get one that has been through trauma like dog fighting.

The rest is personal opinion on how dangerous they are, but the ones who have been abused are WAY more likely to snap and do something ****ed up.

yeah the mix eyed dog is definitely off the table due to it's cool demeanor (i don't have a prob with it, my girl most certainly does)

there are 2 more docile females that we both like there.

girl seemed to like 2 others that i didn't care for, basenji pit mix and a choc lab pit mix- both are hyperactive as **** and i dont' feel like running a 5k a day to keep them sane.

hopefully we'll have a dog within a week or 2, complete with breaking bar n prong/choke collar cause i fully intend on making it toe the line from the minute it sets foot in our house---for everyone's safety/wellbeing (dog included obv)

yeah, I agree with bolded. Overall popularity is also a factor, imo, and tons of dogs get lumped into the pit bull category

Yes, but the owners that raise them in ways that give them the horrible name they have today should not be allowed to breed.

standard pit behavior

http://deadspin.com/5546438/a-dog-bi...fighters-penis

I voted Yes but with special license, however I'd be in favor of destroying the breed if it were merely a choice between free breeding or destruction.

Here (Ireland) it's mainly poor people who buy these dogs and as we all know, the poor can't even look after themselves, never mind a dog or a child...yet they often have both!
It's against the law to have one without a muzzle on it in public here, yet I often have walked by knackers (poor people who are of no benefit to society) with them sans muzzle. The police are rather good at fining them, but nothing concrete ever comes of it.

I like quite a few of the more "aggressive" dogs, however I can't see any benefit in keeping this breed and would hope to see it one day eradicated.

These.

Didn't even bother reading OP as it's probably just stupid propaganda.

P.S I've actually gotten my arm tore/mauled up by a pit bull and I still don't believe the idiots who blame the dog instead of the owner.

Should be also ban. Rottie's, Doberman's and every other tough/scary dog breed?

P.S. Petey from the little rascals was a pit bull.

Do people (People who think larger dogs that bite should be put down) think that small dogs who bite should be put down?

At what size would you make the trade off?

"It's not the breed of the dog"

"...scary dog breed"

Which one is it?

So you'd be ok with letting your local white trash meth-head purchase a bazooka at Walmart? Because it's not the bazooka, it's the irresponsible owner.

It amazes me how on a site of supposedly at least level 2 or 3 poker players, we get level zero thinking when it comes to something emotional like "I love my dog!".

The first Alfalfa died from infection after having his genitals savaged by Petey.

I thought it was Darla.

I live in a pretty hick/white trash area of PA and the White Trash meth heads that are gun lovers already have fully automatic assault riffles and yes as long as he/she meets the criteria he should be allowed. But I don't even know how people are comparing a Gun and a breed of Dog.

I don't know even know what this is supposed to mean. Ok I'm a level 2or 3 poker player but I give zero level thinking when it comes to this as emotional as I love my dog? You seem like you disagree but then you understand the I love my dog side?

I know quite a few ppl that own pit bulls and they are all great dogs. They didn't raise them to be fighters and they were from an overly inbred litter.

hiyoooo!

That story about the ultimate fighter having his dick pierced by a bite just freaks me out. Maybe things were too hectic during the fight w/ the dogs and he didn't have time to think about it, but I just imagine a moment of terror when the thing is biting his junk where he is thinking 'are these dogs going to rip my dick off?' ug...

yeah

suzzer must not be American if this is the case than I will accept his thoughts on the right to bear arms.

Little known trivia tidbit: Darla is actually the first Spanky after Petey got through with him/her.

I'm sure it didn't help that he was probably wearing some thin gym sweats which showed off his glutes quite nicely, but offered little in the way of crotch protection. Yet one more reason why jeans rule. Protection against pitbull penis bite ftw.

It means that there is an argument that some things pose a danger to society when in the hands of irresponsible losers. No one is arguing pits that turn out bad even in they're raised responsibly and with the right kind of discipline.

The point is that pits and other fighting breeds are much more dangerous than most dogs. Pitbulls are bred to bite hard and hang on. They also can be extremely dog-aggressive by nature. Society has some limit of baby/genital maulings before it may finally say enough is enough - as many countries and towns already have.

Although as has been pointed out itt, the effectiveness of those kinds of laws is highly debatable. I can live with the argument that bans just don't work. But the "it's not the dog it's the owner" argument just doesn't hold water with me when I see a pit go shooting out of a car window, completely unprovoked, to try to kill another dog. I don't care if it's the owner, I don't want to be around that. What if some kid happened to get caught in the middle of that and mauled?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jViqMnnK4

Nothing biting penis > Doberman biting penis > Pit Bull biting penis.