Today my youngest sister calls me and says she found a very young Rat Terrier by the side of the road, and asks me if she can drop it off for a night.

Dog is skin and bones, and very small and probably less than 8 weeks old. ****ing ******s breed dogs and don't give a ****. And other people have to pick up their mess.

That said, can the people who like this breed in this thread explain why they like them?



They're ****ing ugly. Looks like a giant penis with legs.



These things hold the distinction for just about the only breed of dogs that I don't like. They have absolutely no qualities that are endearing; they are dumb as a rock, they aren't really that loyal (compared to a lab or other large dogs) , they are butt ugly, they were bred for something that is illegal, etc.

I've been around dozens of GSDs, Boxers, and other guard dogs, but they're the only dog that consistently growls/snarls at me (especially in the presence of their owner) when I'm trying to be friendly. Usually the other breeds are intelligent enough to tell friend from foe lol but not pitts.

Doesn't mean they should be illegal obviously, but I just don't understand why some people like them so much if not for their reputation.

Ridgeback derail:

How do ridgebacks handle the cold? I was looking to get one last fall to replace my 13 yr old shepherd/wolf farm dog and I need something that can handle packs of coyotes. It frequently is -30c and occasionally dips to -40c in the winter here. I thought the ridgeback's lack of hair might make it unsuitable for this kind of work. I don't want another shepherd, as my current dog's hips are totally shot, and I don't want to deal with that again. The ridgeback was the only large dog I could find with no really common health issues, so it was at the top of my list.

People typically like dogs they grew up with or around and when they're kids they generally only see the good things about them. Also because of all the media hype about how vicious these dogs are, huge idiots think "oh pit bulls would be good guard dogs" so get them and treat them like ****. Pit bulls are NOT good guard dogs, they were bred specifically to not be good guard dogs. But now there are so many pit-like mutts out there that are essentially dog and people aggressive, unless people really know what they're doing the dog can be a time bomb.

I see it as pretty much impossible to happen but I really wish they'd make it illegal to sell dogs unless you get approved by something like the AKC.

Gobbo, the best way I know how to put it is that the concept of certain breeds being naturally 'dog-aggressive' or 'human-aggressive' is outdated and refuted science and it not so coincidentally falls in line with how people in the early 1900s and before viewed genetics in all species, mainly humans. Even the pro-pitbull and pro-big-scary-dog people have been slow in catching up. Basically their hands have been forced in trying to defend breeds against breed-specific-banning legislation and the people saying all along that 'nurture has much more do to with dog disposition than nature' have found out that nature has even less impact that they previously thought.

Suzzer,

This thread led me to read more about dog legislation in non-US countries and it seems like the US is the only place with this pit-bull type dog fixation. Other countries just lump the pitbull in with all the other big, strong and potentially dangerous dogs.
I know this thread started with you talking about pitbulls specifically but I believe your stance changed to reflect all potentially dangerous dogs? (correct me if I'm wrong) If so, it can't be denied you have a point, in the sense that if a toy poodle decided to spaz out the damage would be far less than a pitbull/rottweiler/mastiff/presa/husky/etc doing the same. I was frustrated with the 'pro-pit' people earlier using comparisons with poodles and the like. It's not that they don't have a point, it's that the point is not the one being debated. Obviously a pitbull should be compared to other dogs of equal and greater size and strength.
I am the proud caretake of a half staffordshire/rhodesian ridgeback (definitely a pitbull-type-dog) but I would not be opposed to legislation banning all big strong dangerous dogs, especially if it cut down on the abuse and neglect of all these dogs out here with broken homes and no homes. My frustration is of a very fundamental scientific nature when seeing pitbulls singled out for pseudo-scientific reasons, and I'm sure most 'pro-pit' people would agree.

p.s. I was being playful with my phrasing, "Plus, 'pitbull' is not even a real thing," and didn't bother to edit when I read the topic had already been discussed. To clarify, I mean 'pitbull' is an unofficial grouping name for a handful of specific breeds and countless other half and quarter breeds. The fact that there is a breed called the 'amercian pit bull terrier' causes some confusion but APBTs are only a fraction of the total pitbulls.
Plus, like you say there are many pitbulls mixed with bigger and scarier dogs but just as many mixed with 'nice dogs', and they are all called pitbulls. For example, scroll down to Enumclaw, Washington on this page,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-s..._Legislation_2
and you'll see this,
That's basically every snub-nosed dog.

Chump Change's posts makes me wonder, why hasnt there been a thread on legislation for human breeding and caps on how many kids 1 person can have?


Nothing in this world is more violent then the human animal. No being can end more lives then the human. As the world is filled with more and more humans each life is made that much more worthless. Each crowded population makes the world worse. Ill stop now cuz wrong thread ect......

That's way too depressing... Instead, let's watch this video of pitbull mixed with a weiner dog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmJDA...eature=related

Seems like such a line to draw. Some breeds clearly have huge behavior tendencies, why is it so hard for part of it to be aggression based? Nurture > nature for sure but there are some things it'll be 100x as hard to take out as others. My dachshund barks. It's what they do. He's decent at stopping if I tell him to quiet down but it's going to take a lot more training before he does it consistently. Some breeds don't bark at all. Why draw the line at everything else but not dog/human aggression?

Baby savagely attacked by dog

But if rapper dbags start putting them in music videos looking tuff and kewl then other pos dbags will want to have one, and then there goes the breed.

locking jaws tho

That's just like, your opinion, man.

I actually think most pits are quite beautiful.

She doesn't bark when people knock on the door, ring the bell, or just walk in. She just lies there. So, if you break into my place, please take her outside so she doesn't poop under the tree again.



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since this is the thread about lame dog stories, i share mine as well:

when I was like 10 years old, the german shepherd of a friend starts chasing me without a reason.(we were playing outside). I run for my life, as fast as possible, like 200 yards until i stumble and fall. I made my last prayers knowing i would die now. Luckily it seemed like the dog already gave up long ago. Most scary moment of my life.

they can't chase you if you don't run

My only experiences with Pit Bulls are bad ones. A neighbor kid's family had a pit bull, which got out and bit 2 kids. Another guy a couple blocks down also had one. Scared the hell out of me and I avoided those places at all costs when I was out and about. There seem to be more than are wanted though, which would be the main reason for limiting their breeding. A local shelter here is usually just loaded full of pit bulls that people bring in.

That's the pit bull MO - zero warning and then... straight for the jugular!

It's Funny

Pit Bull bit my sister a few months back. The owners were all "oh, she never has hurt anyone, you probably scared her." A few months after that, it bites and maims a child. Good job, dumbasses.

In Palmdale, CA last month 4 pit bulls got in with a herd of goats and killed* 42 of them.

*including the mauled ones that were put down

Holy ****.

imagine if that was a herd of children!!!

Looking forward to onslaught of pit bull apologists ITT in 3..2..1..

How many 5 year olds could one pit bull take?