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08-23-2009 , 09:21 PM
She doesn't speak English very well. But then, neither does Marion Cotillard.
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08-23-2009 , 09:21 PM
Also the DP work in that one single take in Act II where the camera keeps rotating between the last German/translator/map/Pitt is really pretty nice.
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08-23-2009 , 10:53 PM
Kill Bill 2 > Kill Bill 1 and I will fight to the death over it. I do think they should be looked at as one film though for these rankings.
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08-23-2009 , 11:10 PM
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Kill Bill 2 > Kill Bill 1 and I will fight to the death over it. I do think they should be looked at as one film though for these rankings.
I hear this a lot...and you typically have a solid view of films...so why do you view rank KB2 as > 1?

I see KB1 as a clearly superior film is just about every way..so much so that I almost rank it > than Pulp Fiction. Writing, directing, set design, pacing, score, acting, costume design, directing, camera work, stunt work, etc etc.
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08-23-2009 , 11:15 PM
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Did anyone notice that Tarantino used Harvey Keitel and Samuel L Jackson to do voiceovers in the movie?

Samuel L Jackson narrated the flammable film scene, and Harvey Keitel played the voice of the person on the phone negotiating with Hans.
good ear, i noticed the Samuel, and my friend noticed the Keitel
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08-23-2009 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
I would go

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. KB vol 2
4. KB vol 1
5. Jackie Brown
6. Reservoir Dogs
7. Death Proof
Haven't seen IG yet (going tomorrow) and have never seen Jackie Brown but it seems to me that Reservoir Dogs is 4 places too low.
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08-23-2009 , 11:26 PM
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I hear this a lot...and you typically have a solid view of films...so why do you view rank KB2 as > 1?

I see KB1 as a clearly superior film is just about every way..so much so that I almost rank it > than Pulp Fiction. Writing, directing, set design, pacing, score, acting, costume design, directing, camera work, stunt work, etc etc.
I'm with you on this as well.
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08-23-2009 , 11:38 PM
1. Pulp Fiction
2. Inglourious Basterds
3. Kill Bill Vol. 1
4. Jackie Brown
5. Reservoir Dogs
6. Kill Bill Vol. 2
7. Death Proof
8. Four Rooms
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08-23-2009 , 11:48 PM
KB1 is just a tighter, more constantly entertaining movie. There isn't a wasted millisecond of film in it. The soundtrack is also clearly superior (imo). Don't get me wrong, I love KB2, but I'd pick KB1 if forced to choose between the two.
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08-24-2009 , 01:20 AM
KB1 > KB2 but my favorite part of both is everything that happens in David Carridine's house at the end. I can see how that scene alone could switch the order for some people.

Just rewatched Tarintino's room in Four Rooms. Way worse then I remembered, the ending is pretty awesome though.
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08-24-2009 , 01:45 AM
He was even able to make the subtitles entertaining. I was cracking up when he would randomly use the German or French word in the subtitles instead of the English counterpart.

I was trying to figure out if there was any significance of him not translating the word to English. Does anyone have an idea? Sometimes when the character spoke "Oui" it would be subtitles as "Oui" and other times as "Yes".
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08-24-2009 , 01:56 AM
Landa-related questions itt

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So, Landa, obviously very smart, very self-interested, spooky psycho ****er. I don't quite understand why he

A) strangles the German actress (why kill her at all? Why strangle her? Obviously it preserves the dramatic tension but doesn't make all that much sense in retrospect - just for jollies? Did he feel 'personally betrayed' or did it just get him off to choke her out or what? and

B) just trusts Aldo, this guy who's been leading a crazed pack of psycho killers for years, to hold up his end of the deal. In fact, I don't see why Aldo lets him live at all - wtf do they need him for?
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08-24-2009 , 02:03 AM
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Landa-related questions itt

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So, Landa, obviously very smart, very self-interested, spooky psycho ****er. I don't quite understand why he

A) strangles the German actress (why kill her at all? Why strangle her? Obviously it preserves the dramatic tension but doesn't make all that much sense in retrospect - just for jollies? Did he feel 'personally betrayed' or did it just get him off to choke her out or what? and

B) just trusts Aldo, this guy who's been leading a crazed pack of psycho killers for years, to hold up his end of the deal. In fact, I don't see why Aldo lets him live at all - wtf do they need him for?
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A) I think its a bit of all these. He was angry she was a traitor and she insulted his intelligence by using that lame story.

B) Aldo had nothing to do with the deal he was told by a superior (general) to make the deal, he had no choice. Yes they do need him. Sure the 4 leaders of the Reich are dead but many remain, including the infrastructure. Lando is willing to tell all and that would be very valuable.
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08-24-2009 , 02:11 AM
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A) I think its a bit of all these. He was angry she was a traitor and she insulted his intelligence by using that lame story.

B) Aldo had nothing to do with the deal he was told by a superior (general) to make the deal, he had no choice. Yes they do need him. Sure the 4 leaders of the Reich are dead but many remain, including the infrastructure. Lando is willing to tell all and that would be very valuable.
more on b
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i also think that lando believed that aldo would follow his orders to a t. that "i've been chewed out before" line was awesome imo.
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08-24-2009 , 02:17 AM
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more on b
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i also think that lando believed that aldo would follow his orders to a t. that "i've been chewed out before" line was awesome imo.
re: kkc's more on b, man this format is queer

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I don't know why he would assume this. It's given away by his 'you'll be shot for this!' reaction that he did expect Aldo to follow his orders exactly, but Landa is supposed to be this master of psychological profiling and here he is just strolling along with a legendary psychopathic killer, the terror of his country, leader of a partisan unit that's been operating behind enemy lines for years, and just expects there to be a very high probability that he's going to do what he's told with no extra fun? Seems awfully dumb of him in a way that rings false.
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08-24-2009 , 02:20 AM
hmmmmmmmm, i'll have to go see it again i guess!

yeah i really don't have an explanation for that that isn't flimsy as hell. the best i got is that he's still a stinkin' nazi.
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08-24-2009 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Anacardo
Landa-related questions itt

Spoiler:
So, Landa, obviously very smart, very self-interested, spooky psycho ****er. I don't quite understand why he

A) strangles the German actress (why kill her at all? Why strangle her? Obviously it preserves the dramatic tension but doesn't make all that much sense in retrospect - just for jollies? Did he feel 'personally betrayed' or did it just get him off to choke her out or what? and

B) just trusts Aldo, this guy who's been leading a crazed pack of psycho killers for years, to hold up his end of the deal. In fact, I don't see why Aldo lets him live at all - wtf do they need him for?
Agree with A and was the primary question I had leaving the theater. I don't think there is a logical reason for this given Landa's true feelings about the war and his loyalties. The only thing I could think of was that he wasn't exactly sure of what the IB's were capable of at that time, and even if he was, probably hadn't thought the implications of their actions through completely yet and was just doing his duty.

good movie though.
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08-24-2009 , 03:36 AM
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I think Landa has always prided himself on being able to convince people and be persuasive and also even though he is self serving and evil, he does live by a certain set of rules. Thus, after he made the deal, he assumed Aldo would follow the same set of rules.

The question I had coming out of the theatre was
1. Did Landa have the farmer and his 3 daughters in the beginning killed anyways after killing Shoshanna's family (I'm thinking no and that Landa holds up his end of the bargain)

2. Would Aldo have killed or let go but mark or just let go the new father after the Tavern scene ( I'm thinking he would have killed the guy consider he knew the identity of the actress spy )


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08-24-2009 , 04:00 AM
Im going to go see it tonight. My expectations have raised a lot from reading the thread.
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08-24-2009 , 05:42 AM
I absolutely loved this movie, and was really let down my D9 (I realize they are incomparable, but many of my friends felt the opposite and I was like wtf?!?)
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08-24-2009 , 05:48 AM
Tarantino is a hack. Dogs and PF were good because Stacey Sher was involved. Everything else he's done is self indulgent crap.
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08-24-2009 , 07:28 AM
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Tarantino is a hack. Dogs and PF were good because Stacey Sher was involved. Everything else he's done is self indulgent crap.
Thanks for adding to the discussion! Did you even see the film?
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08-24-2009 , 08:54 AM
Re Landa
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Raine has been his rival throughout the whole movie, yet has never met him, Landa expects Raine to have a similar code of ethics, think in similar ways etc. We see this when he first starts negotiating with them, he expects Raine to hold up his end of the deal, because he knows he would.
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08-24-2009 , 08:57 AM
I was somewhat underwhelmed, after getting my hopes up from this thread. Guess I was expecting another pulp fiction/reservoir dogs type masterpiece.

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I liked parts of the movie..chapter 1 was excellent, the mexican standoff, the strudel scene. Also the shots of Shoshanna getting ready for the movie premiere. But the story did not do too much for me. Wanted to see the basterds running around France wrecking havoc. Instead most of it revolved around a cinema and a movie premiere. Hated the scene with Mike Meyers where they talk about the german filmakers trying to beat the jews at their own game. It's the kind of self-service I've come to expect from hollywood, but not QT.
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08-24-2009 , 09:00 AM
Kill Bill v2 has better dialogue imo, and I really liked the ending. It just felt more like a Tarantino movie. But, unless IB somehow changes things, I'll still always rank them right next to each other since it's one story. I like both.
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