Goes without saying this is awful, but damn, this is a conspiracy theorist's wet dream.

meh. whenever you have 280 passengers, there are always gonna be some people on board who you can fit into some kind of conspiracy narrative if you squint hard enough. especially with the rich people in business/first.

BBC reporting approx 80 children on board. **** this life

This.

Id much rather have him handling this situation then Obama. He would stand up to a thug like Putin.

lol

you guys

Please enlighten us. How do we "stand up" to Russia?

If GWB was still in office, he'd more likely sit down and read My Pet Goat 2: The Teenage Years to a class, and then later (after his adult handlers had conferenced and coached him) declare war on Iran.

amen.

freedom isn't free.

Oh please...

Global politics and diplomacy, is not about one country vs another country, all this **** gets determined at a very high level, 1 on 1. Its about building relationships and managing/leveraging the, GWB was good at this, Obama is not as good. Its about knowing when to stand up, and when to back down, (usually stand up, b/c you never back down) How do we do it you ask??? Well if I could answer that I would be in Office I guess. But I will answer in generalities, and say I believe we need a more firm stance against Russia, the recent shot down of MH17 simply unveils more of Russia's secret war in Ukraine. This the USA can can not back down from, we must defend our interest and allies in the region, and Russia's aggression is an attack on that, plain in simple. I think GWB steps up to the plate, and Obama hasn't, one mans opinion.

**** you Putin!

Sorry man, thought you were going in a Obama is a pussy direction, not in the obvious GWB would do something obv foolish...

The real shame is that we won't have those researchers to help with the direction this thread is starting to go

So the way we stand up to Russia is to take a more firm stance against Russia? And Bush would stand up to Russia by stepping up to the plate? I think you're on to something here.

Don't some of you think that we should at least start the investigation into what happened before we take military action, lol?

Serenity now.

This is America dammit, you take that sissy talk somewhere else. Invade first, investigate later.

yes, I want GWB to put on a helmet, and step up to home plate, and wait for a low center pitch, from the guy on the mound.

all Im saying is i think we need a leader that is more involved in the situation, and take a more firm stance on a very disruptive situation.

If you want specific policy actions, well then i guess you can ask the hand full of people in the country that are qualified to make those decisions, if you are one of them I am happy to review your credentials.

Bomb every SAM site the rebels have, smile and say we did good. Ignore when the Russians give them more and hopefully they don't have the same **** up again.

born on 3rd, thinks he got a triple

:thumbup:

Shoot first, ask questions later

I'm holding out hope that the plane has merely gone missing, and the passengers are all safe in a cave somewhere with a billion rubles in the bank for each.

One of my friends today was mentioning a picture of a SAM missile system heading back over the border with Russia? Missing one missile... Anyone seem it?

You didn't click on any of the NSFW links from earlier... Did you