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08-15-2020 , 01:43 PM
You're saying that Mr. Joseph Christ knew he was presently living in Year One?


I don't think that's what you're saying, but that's what Im asking. What year did people think they were living in at the time?
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08-15-2020 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
LOL, Tom -- it's a joke, reflecting a general stupidity and misallocation of resources in the world.
OIC. I'll just keep trying to limp along the best I can.
08-15-2020 , 01:56 PM
Well, this got me on a Wikipedia dive, and it's quite a rabbit hole. The guy who came up with the year we now call 1AD (or CE, if you prefer) was a monk named Dionysius Exiguus, who came up with it to work out a table of the dates for Easter in various years. He didn't say how he came up with the year, but "two major theories are that Dionysius based his calculation on the Gospel of Luke, which states that Jesus was "about thirty years old" shortly after "the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar", and hence subtracted thirty years from that date, or that Dionysius counted back 532 years from the first year of his new table." Most modern scholars apparently estimate that Christ was actually born somewhere between 6 and 4 BCE.

Also, apparently, the term "Common Era" in English dates back as far as 1708; and new years start on 01 January because that's how the Romans did it, and they based that on the date the new consul took office.
08-15-2020 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
You're saying that Mr. Joseph Christ knew he was presently living in Year One?


I don't think that's what you're saying, but that's what Im asking. What year did people think they were living in at the time?
Oh. Well, I don't really know what calendar was in common use in Judea at the time, but I don't think anyone was numbering years back then. The most common calendar style was "the Xth year of King Y's reign." The Romans apparently named their years, as they had a rotating consulship that lasted one year, so you could say "back in the year Biggus Dickus, Pompei erupted," or whatever.
08-15-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Except that there's no reason to believe that we have Christ's birth year correct, either. The census that was supposed to bring Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem was actually in 6"AD," and also didn't take place under Herod.

And the phrase "Before the Year in which Christ is Most Commonly Thought to Have Been Born" (BYCMCTHBB) doesn't exactly roll trippingly off the tongue.
i know what you're saying, but that doesn't change that they took a strip club and renamed it gentlemans club and now think it's now more sciency
08-15-2020 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Agree on all points. I am self aware enough to know that I also am not an excellent poster so it's not really a pot calling the kettle black situation. Well, I guess it actually is a pot calling a kettle black, but at least I know I'm a pot. Or am I a kettle?

I wouldn't put you in the same category, FYI.
08-15-2020 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
OIC. I'll just keep trying to limp along the best I can.

Well, my vision pretty much sucks!
08-15-2020 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Oh. Well, I don't really know what calendar was in common use in Judea at the time, but I don't think anyone was numbering years back then. The most common calendar style was "the Xth year of King Y's reign." The Romans apparently named their years, as they had a rotating consulship that lasted one year, so you could say "back in the year Biggus Dickus, Pompei erupted," or whatever.

Or perhaps, back in the year of Pompey, Biggus Dickus erupted...
08-15-2020 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Well, my vision pretty much sucks!
But your perception, re: RG, is impeccable.
08-15-2020 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Well, I guess it actually is a pot calling a kettle black, but at least I know I'm a pot. Or am I a kettle?
I think what you are trying to say is you know you are black.
08-15-2020 , 02:37 PM
After some more searching, it appears that Jews were using the Seleucid era for counting years during the Roman protectorate/province era, at least when they were dating contracts. So Joseph would likely have referred to the year his "son" was born as 311.

By Jewish tradition, the first year is when Alexander conquered Babylon, but it was apparently actually based on when when one of his Generals (Seleucus) founded a successor state after Alexander's death.
08-15-2020 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Or perhaps, back in the year of Pompey, Biggus Dickus erupted...
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Poor Pompey. Considered "the Great" in his time, now obscure enough to be a trivia question response: "Name one member of Rome's First Triumvirate members other than Julius Caesar."
08-15-2020 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
OIC. I'll just keep trying to limp along the best I can.
Don't feel bad, I didn't get it either. I was confused because Howard is smart enough to understand why it's obviously 'blind leading blind'. I don't see anything funny about it tho so I'm just going to consider it a 'oof' for Howard and not any kind of reflection about myself.
08-15-2020 , 03:58 PM
Lawyer jokes are weird.
08-15-2020 , 04:07 PM
For those interested in the time of Christ, see Life of Brian. Pretty sure that's a documentary.
08-15-2020 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Well, my vision pretty much sucks!
ICWYDT

Or maybe you got me again by not doing anything.
08-15-2020 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by golddog
For those interested in the time of Christ, see Life of Brian. Pretty sure that's a documentary.
I love that movie so much. I used to use this scene to introduce my lessons on Palestinian groups fighting (each other and) the Israelis:




And still I use this one to introduce grammar lessons from time to time:

08-15-2020 , 04:39 PM
Always look on the bright side of life.
08-15-2020 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
RG: Man, there is some guy named wetafish or something trying to troll me.
Mrs. RG: Trolling?
RG: You know, being a dick.
Mrs. RG: That's unfortunate.
RG: Yep!
Mrs. RG: But see one play one i guess.
R*R, your best by far. The last line is all yours, but very Mrs. RG-ish.

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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
I generally think RG is not an excellent poster;
That hurts man, but guess how much I give a f*ck?

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Originally Posted by marknfw
Agree on all points.
What's that brown stuff on your nose?

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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
I wouldn't put you in the same category, FYI.
Wow, a brown-nose 69. Howard, I'm shocked -- sort of.

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Originally Posted by Didace
Always look on the bright side of life.
Word.
08-15-2020 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
That hurts man, but guess how much I give a f*ck?
Enough to have responded, which automatically puts it somewhere above-zero.
08-15-2020 , 06:11 PM
Solidly undertitled!
08-15-2020 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Enough to have responded, which automatically puts it somewhere above-zero.
Celsius, or Fahrenheit?
08-15-2020 , 06:14 PM
whoosh
08-15-2020 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
whoosh
Lol. Smug contemptuousness is no veil for ignorance. Define "zero" for me. I'm just a simple man.
08-15-2020 , 06:31 PM
Zero is generally used synonymously with none; the number of ****s you gave was one or more.

The hyphen that I assume prompted your follow-up was an attempt to follow the RG rules of incorrectly hyphenating with a number.
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