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02-22-2011 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Again.. just because you're a bad driver at slower speeds doesn't mean that everyone else is.

If you can't maintain a constant speed behind a car and continue to pay enough attention to the car in front of you to stop if it breaks - you shouldn't be driving. Period. End of discussion.
jjshabado, quit putting words in my mouth. Slow doesn't = bad. Stop that line of thinking...

I'd say a huge majority of drivers are not able to safely maintain their distance 100% of the time, and that's when accidents occur.
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02-22-2011 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IcyHotMonkey
This isn't the case when you're just coasting behind another car going 60mph because you're not constantly calculating your options. You assume the car will not suddenly stop and are shocked when it does... most likely hitting it. The longer you sit behind another car, the more you assume it will continue going that speed.
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jjshabado, quit putting words in my mouth. Slow doesn't = bad. Stop that line of thinking...
I've quoted your exact words. You claim that you're "most likely hitting" a car that brakes suddenly if you're just following it at the same speed. That's bad ****ing driving!
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02-22-2011 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by prohornblower
No, I do not know how the Autobahn works. I've never been to Germany and have no reason to visit. Further, I don't know why you keep bringing it the **** up in this thread, when your original argument was that rural American highways should all be 100mph. Stop talking about the Autobahn - I don't give a **** about the Autobahn.

You can't just ****ing throw it out like it doesn't exist. I gave you an example where there is a huge variance of speeds. Stop with your Americentrist view of how you think highways should work. Limitless parts of the Autobahn are really not that much different than a rural American interstate.


If I were to say all cars ran off piston based engines, then I'd say take a look at some Mazdas. You can't just act like Mazdas with Wankels do not exist. While the majority of cars are piston based, non-rotary engines, there are some exceptions.

While the majority of highways have speed limits, there are some exceptions, and those must be taken into account.

Last edited by niftymatt; 02-22-2011 at 06:04 PM.
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02-22-2011 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I've quoted your exact words. You claim that you're "most likely hitting" a car that brakes suddenly if you're just following it at the same speed. That's bad ****ing driving!
Exactly, so don't drive like that!

I'm not 'most likely hitting a car that breaks suddenly', the avg. driver will though.
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02-22-2011 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by niftymatt
You can't just ****ing throw it out like it doesn't exist. I gave you an example where there is a huge variance of speeds. Stop with your Americentrist view of how you think highways should work. Limitless parts of the Autobahn are really not that much different than a rural American interstate.
So, when talking about American highways, I should consider German conditions? Got it.

I think the Road to Hana in Hawai'i should be 100mph limit. I MEAN THE AUTOBAHN IS!
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02-22-2011 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by d10
-Failure to yield to emergency vehicle
Could you elaborate on this one please?
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02-22-2011 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IcyHotMonkey
Exactly, so don't drive like that!

I'm not 'most likely hitting a car that breaks suddenly', the avg. driver will though.
Oh, so now you're back to claiming that for the average person its safer for them to drive fast than to drive slow...

Edit: Not to mention your previous post I quoted where you actually talk about how you drive poorly by texting and not paying attention...
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02-22-2011 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Oh, so now you're back to claiming that for the average person its safer for them to drive fast than to drive slow...
When did I say that its safer for the avg. person to drive faster... I said its safer for me.

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Edit: Not to mention your previous post I quoted where you actually talk about how you drive poorly by texting and not paying attention...
When did I say that I drive poorly by texting and not paying attention...

You're just being silly now.

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If I'm driving the speed limit, I'm probably more relaxed with one hand on the wheel. I'm more likely to text or talk on the phone if my environment doesn't change often.
You read this and thought, 'icyhotbaddriver drives poorly by texting and not paying attention.' what I'm saying is 'icyhotmonkey is more likely to text or talk on the phone if my environment doesn't change often.'

Do you understand the difference? I don't drive and text or use my phone.
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02-22-2011 , 09:11 PM
Nobody believes anything you type at this point, Icy. Stop arguing semantics. We all have our beliefs about you and your driving skills and I highly doubt anyone is willing to change them at this point.
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02-22-2011 , 09:21 PM
It would be one thing if he was arguing semantics, instead he's trying to argue individual posts hoping that people don't actually read everything he writes.
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02-22-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by IcyHotMonkey

You read this and thought, 'icyhotbaddriver drives poorly by texting and not paying attention.' what I'm saying is 'icyhotmonkey is more likely to text or talk on the phone if my environment doesn't change often.'

Do you understand the difference? I don't drive and text or use my phone.
So in one sentence you were talking about driving - and in the next you just happened to talk about texting and using your phone in unchanging environments but not at all about driving? Why did you even mention it when trying to argue why you're a better driver when speeding if its a total non sequitor?
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02-22-2011 , 09:27 PM
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02-22-2011 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by prohornblower
As long as you are capable of taking human lives out on the road, you are relevant.

Congrats on that.
What about taking inhuman lives out on the road? That **** will be mega-relevant when the zombies hit the highway imo.
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02-22-2011 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
So in one sentence you were talking about driving - and in the next you just happened to talk about texting and using your phone in unchanging environments but not at all about driving? Why did you even mention it when trying to argue why you're a better driver when speeding if its a total non sequitor?
At least I understand what prohorn is saying...

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It would be one thing if he was arguing semantics, instead he's trying to argue individual posts hoping that people don't actually read everything he writes.
You brought up the individual post.

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Not to mention your previous post I quoted where you actually talk about how you drive poorly by texting and not paying attention...
Looks like I'll give it up after this. 'more likely' isn't an admission of anything. However the texting and cellphone use directly relates to driving.

You seem to be misinterpreting everything I write. If I wrote 'the sky isn't purple.' you'd think, 'why does he think the sky is yellow?'

So peace out on this thread.
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02-23-2011 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by prohornblower
So, when talking about American highways, I should consider German conditions? Got it.

I think the Road to Hana in Hawai'i should be 100mph limit. I MEAN THE AUTOBAHN IS!

Sigh, FFS, time for some reading comprehension, IMO. If you don't want answers to your questions, don't ask them.

I brought up the Autobahn argument for VARIANCE IN SPEEDS when you asked how would other drivers know. So I answered it, and now you want to bring up a totally different thing.

You said it'd be dangerous. I said the Autobahn is similar to American rural interstates (ok, maybe a few exceptions), and that there is already a model of huge variance in speeds.


The road to Hana also isn't an INTERSTATE. Also an extreme example as much of the rural US is flat. Also, last time I checked, Montana's history hasn't altered, and people used to be able to drive as fast as they wanted in certain areas provided it was "prudent and reasonable". Last time I also checked, Montana is pretty mountainous.

Again, where did I ever say all rural highways should be 100 MPH? Definitely one, never said all rural highways (interstates specifically), and 2, I said 90-100. Most rural highways could accommodate those speeds.

I said: "No way is it dangerous to drive 90-100 under normal conditions out on an interstate in the middle of nowhere. " - interstates, normal conditions (Hawaii is not normal, neither is extreme terrain anywhere, precipitation is also a factor).


But let's just ignore an example here in the US since it doesn't exist anymore, right? I mean that makes a bunch of sense. The only reason Montana now has speed limits everywhere is because of how ambiguous the phrase "prudent and reasonable" meant.

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02-23-2011 , 12:42 AM
I bet your ancestors empathized with Hitler.

/thread
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02-23-2011 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipWrecked
Could you elaborate on this one please?
I was in the right lane on a 2 lane road, came around a bend and saw 2 cops with someone pulled over on the right. There was traffic to my left and very little time to slow down. The second cop pulled me over. Tennessee had just implemented a new law that said you need to move over and slow down as much as you can when a cop has someone stopped on the side of the road and they were enforcing it aggressively. That was the 1 ticket I hired a lawyer for even though it was local and no court appearance was required. The fine on the ticket was $200 and the lawyer cost $900 but there was no way I was paying the state a dime for that BS.
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02-23-2011 , 01:29 AM
Can we all let IcyHot just fade into Bolivian arguing with himself and ask D10 for more road rage stories plz? Kthx.
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02-23-2011 , 02:02 AM
d10, phb, tiedup, niftymatt, cres, edge34... someone needs to just drop a nuke on this thread
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02-23-2011 , 02:13 AM
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d10, phb, tiedup, niftymatt, cres, edge34... someone needs to just drop a nuke on this thread
Yeah, that added the value we were looking for. I obviously turned this thread to ****.
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02-23-2011 , 02:16 AM
Don't mind him Edge. He's just a dumb mother ****er who spends most his time posting about how annoying Phil Laak is and how killing off the world population would be great for him.
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02-23-2011 , 02:21 AM
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The fine on the ticket was $200 and the lawyer cost $900

Wow. Way to stick it to the man!
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02-23-2011 , 02:29 AM
in regards to the thread:

how has it affected your career? i thought moving violations and such would be a big negative wrt to your military career.
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02-23-2011 , 02:45 AM
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Wow. Way to stick it to the man!
I'm loving the new short post style, Bob.
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02-23-2011 , 04:14 AM
Two observations.

1) No matter what your position on safe driving (I personally have been on driving trips that d10 has been involved in, but never in his car, and for that I rest easier), I'd be stunned if anyone had d10 at #1 on their 'posters itt I want to punch in the neck' list.

2) 'dup, how long have you been in the military that you can still think that d10 would be enlisted and not a warrant officer? I'm not in the military, I don't even *like* the military, and I knew that - and I'm pretty sure d10 and I have never ever ever had a conversation about his or anyone else's rank.
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