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01-21-2012 , 04:04 PM
Had a nightmare last night that I owned a pet gorilla and it attacked me. Playfully at first but then it sensed weakness and really went after me.

I was at my parents' house near their backyard fence (6 foot wood fence) and the gorilla grabbed both my legs and threw me backwards over the fence. I landed on my back in the grass and the beast leaped over the fence landing on his feet. There was a handy wrought iron fence post laying in the grass next to me. I grabbed it and got to my feet and took a swing at him or her and he or she grabbed it out of my hands and threw it at me, narrowly missing me. I then sprinted to the other fence and jumped it and sprinted to a neighbors open garage to shut myself in.

It was scary as hell. Based on this one dream I'd say the gorilla ****s **** up.
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01-21-2012 , 06:31 PM
How about 12 body builders vs shark in a large pool.
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01-21-2012 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
How about 12 body builders vs shark in a large pool.
i think the body builders get destroyed. 12 members of US national swim team have much better chance (think 12 michael phelps).
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01-21-2012 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
How about 12 body builders vs shark in a large pool.
How is this even a question? One is a vicious killer in its natural habitat, the other is a bunch of weight lifters splashing around.

At least with the gorilla question you are comparing two land mammals (well, 1 land mammal vs. 12 land mammals).
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01-21-2012 , 10:06 PM
Maybe the survivors can sharpen some bones against the edges of the pool and take it's eye out. How hard can it be?
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01-21-2012 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
How about 12 body builders vs shark in a large pool.
If the shark is a great white, and the pool were big enough, I literally think that 1000 bodybuilders versus the shark would be a no win situation for the bodybuilders.
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01-21-2012 , 11:30 PM
Pretty sure optimal strategy for people vs sharks would be to find some way to rub the sharks nose to put it in that sleep like state. AFAIK all sharks even great whites are susceptible to this technique.

Then once the shark is motionless everyone has to jam their hands into the sharks gils and eyes and try to do some big internal damage.

I mean its a huge long shot but that shark nose rubbing trick is a pretty good spot for the humans to start.
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01-21-2012 , 11:38 PM
lol I was kidding. i thought the whole question was a level. I'd take 1 shark over 1,000 people
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01-21-2012 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
Maybe the survivors can sharpen some bones against the edges of the pool and take it's eye out. How hard can it be?
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01-21-2012 , 11:50 PM
I agree 100 percent with sgt rj on the shark question but i would like to see clever make a 12 person shark fighting team....
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01-22-2012 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
Maybe the survivors can sharpen some bones against the edges of the pool and take it's eye out. How hard can it be?
what if they are kenyan marathoners wearing bench press shirts?
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01-22-2012 , 08:05 AM
I think 3 bodybuilders with spears and training in using a spear could probably beat the gorilla.

I think it would take well over a 100 unarmed humans to kill an elephant.
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01-22-2012 , 10:03 AM
If the humans are unarmed I think around 3 should do it vs elephant. One has to die for the team, the other two remove his entrails use them to go for the legs like they did to the AT ATs in Empire Strikes Back. Or just smuggle a mouse or two in there for the submission.
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01-22-2012 , 10:11 AM
How many primates who have mastered Super Mario 3 would it take to beat the Monolith?
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01-22-2012 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jmill
The way you say this makes it sound like there's going to be plenty of animals with better stamina than humans, when that isn't the case, and humans are better than almost all animals (if not all) when it comes to this particular attribute.
Replying to somewhat old post, but whatever... It's true that humans are above avarage, but still nowhere near top.

Some horses can run for long periods at speeds (~40mph) that no human can achieve even for short durations. They have 100 mile endurance races for horses, and they're even carrying the rider while running that! Some antilopes and such can sustain speeds of ~50mph for almost an hour. Also huskys can run at somewhat high speeds for ridiculously times (5+ hours) afaik, didn't find numbers.

I'm sure there's plenty of more examples, those are just animals I knew to have good stamina/endurance and googled some estimations.

I don't think endurance is really that important in this challenge, it's gonna be over pretty fast.

Last edited by chinz; 01-22-2012 at 11:51 AM.
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01-22-2012 , 12:21 PM
didnt need the reply, guy's a nutjob. Doesnt even know people used to travel 12hrs a day on the back of horses going 50km/h
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01-22-2012 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by (._X)0---(^_^)
didnt need the reply, guy's a nutjob. Doesnt even know people used to travel 12hrs a day on the back of horses going 50km/h
hahahha, no

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon

http://www.popularmechanics.com/outd...rathon-runners

Seriously do you people just make up random super mutant animal attributes and post them?

Who wins, 12 powerlifters or a gorilla. And by a gorilla I mean one of those gorillas that used to run for 6 days straight at 100 km/h hunting T. rexes and weighs 800 pounds with shark teeth. You know, back in the day.
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01-22-2012 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
lol I was kidding. i thought the whole question was a level. I'd take 1 shark over 1,000 people
What if one of those people are Thomas Jane from Deep Blue Sea?
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01-22-2012 , 01:04 PM
For the last 30 years, the Welsh town of Llanwrtyd Wells has hoted a 22-mile, man-versus-horse race. Humans have only won the race twice, but top runners usually only finish 10 minutes after the animals.


from your link. Horses always win. Also i doubt that those horse train as hard as those marathon runner.


and what about 100 miles marathon?
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01-22-2012 , 01:07 PM
As has been said 4 billion times in this thread, if you increase the distance past 22-miles the humans destroy the horse in hot weather. No one is saying humans beat horses over short distances. Jesus Christ.

Now, show me your source (lol) that shows horses can run at 50 km per hour for 12 hours while carrying a human. (lol again for good measure)
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01-22-2012 , 03:31 PM
Ok fair enough, if the humans go to the Sahara and fight the SB in a 20 mile wide cage, they'll probably win

Last edited by giraffeboy77; 01-22-2012 at 03:33 PM. Reason: cos they can sweat really good n that
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01-22-2012 , 04:11 PM
22 miles and hot weather, it is human over horse, but also just longer distances. There's a 22 mile race in Wales that is horseback vs. runners. Horses usually win, but sometimes humans. A marathon or so is about where human athletes catch up to horse athletes. Longer distances and humans beat horses even if it isn't hot.

Dogs/wolves might beat humans. In sled racing they run up to 14 hours or so at the end of the Iditarod and other races are done in stages of 80 miles a day. The human record is 188 miles in a day.

Undoubtedly elite human athletes crush trained dogs in warm weather. Possibly in cool weather as well. Obviously not in freezing weather.

Still, in human athlete vs. dog athlete there's a lot more selection going on for the human athletes and they probably train harder and better as well.
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01-22-2012 , 06:01 PM
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01-22-2012 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by (._X)0---(^_^)
didnt need the reply, guy's a nutjob. Doesnt even know people used to travel 12hrs a day on the back of horses going 50km/h
I never claimed that I know humans have the best endurance among land animals. Just that I think they're pretty high up there. Feel free to show your work and prove that wrong though.

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Originally Posted by Matt R.
As has been said 4 billion times in this thread, if you increase the distance past 22-miles the humans destroy the horse in hot weather. No one is saying humans beat horses over short distances. Jesus Christ.

Now, show me your source (lol) that shows horses can run at 50 km per hour for 12 hours while carrying a human. (lol again for good measure)

(._X)0---(^_^),

response to this?

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Originally Posted by microbet
22 miles and hot weather, it is human over horse, but also just longer distances. There's a 22 mile race in Wales that is horseback vs. runners. Horses usually win, but sometimes humans. A marathon or so is about where human athletes catch up to horse athletes. Longer distances and humans beat horses even if it isn't hot.

Dogs/wolves might beat humans. In sled racing they run up to 14 hours or so at the end of the Iditarod and other races are done in stages of 80 miles a day. The human record is 188 miles in a day.

Undoubtedly elite human athletes crush trained dogs in warm weather. Possibly in cool weather as well. Obviously not in freezing weather.

Still, in human athlete vs. dog athlete there's a lot more selection going on for the human athletes and they probably train harder and better as well.
Or this?

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Originally Posted by chinz
Replying to somewhat old post, but whatever... It's true that humans are above avarage, but still nowhere near top.

Some horses can run for long periods at speeds (~40mph) that no human can achieve even for short durations. They have 100 mile endurance races for horses, and they're even carrying the rider while running that! Some antilopes and such can sustain speeds of ~50mph for almost an hour. Also huskys can run at somewhat high speeds for ridiculously times (5+ hours) afaik, didn't find numbers.

I'm sure there's plenty of more examples, those are just animals I knew to have good stamina/endurance and googled some estimations.

I don't think endurance is really that important in this challenge, it's gonna be over pretty fast.
Thing is you just named an extremely small % of land animals, and the claim had more to do with endurance wrt being able to travel long distances in hot weather:

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The persistence hunt may well have been the first form of hunting practiced by hominids. It is likely that this method of hunting evolved before humans invented projectile weapons, such as darts, spears, or slings. Since they could not kill their prey from a distance and were not fast enough to catch the animal, one reliable way to kill it would have been to run it down over a long distance.

In this regard one has to bear in mind that, as hominids adapted to bipedalism they would have lost some speed, becoming less able to catch prey with short, fast charges. They would, however, have gained endurance and become better adapted to persistence hunting.[2] Although many mammals sweat, few have evolved to use sweating for effective thermoregulation, humans and horses being notable exceptions. This coupled with relative hairlessness would have given human hunters an additional advantage by keeping their bodies cool in the midday heat.
Even if you did find more examples humans would still be pretty elite dude. There's a lot of different species out there. I do agree that endurance wouldn't play much of a factor against the gorilla though, and wasn't trying to argue otherwise.

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Ok fair enough, if the humans go to the Sahara and fight the SB in a 20 mile wide cage, they'll probably win
lol
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01-22-2012 , 07:15 PM
In one way I guess human has the best endurance of mammals - it can operate longer with high capacity than most (any??) other, simply because of sweating, ie. no need for breaks. I wouldn't be surprised if in that sense (eg. working at 50%+ of maximum capacity) human would be the mammal with most stamina.

But still for distance traveled in any amount of time, I don't think human can compete with top animals. It takes horses about 10 hours at minimum to travel 100 miles, if I remember correctly 100 mile ultramarathon record times for human are almost twice that.
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