First of all, no one has done these tests and knows how much an adult gorilla can bench press. Second of all, and not that anyone really knows this either, but the only reference I find that pretends to know - a men's health article - says the average adult male can do one rep bench pressing 135lbs.

Not just powerlifters, but there are a lot of NFL all around athletes that lift 3 times that and some that lift 4 times that unshirted.

And as far as speed and explosive power, there are a million videos like this in football. This one is pretty gross as it kinda looks like some hs kid gets seriously hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzL0piLtwJ8

So we have stronger legs then gorillas? Is that right? And the average human can benchpress 1/2 to 1/3 of a car?

lol nice find indeed

^ Ya that doesn't really make much sense. mah bad.

Just as I expected

Black mamba is a better per-pound choice.

Edit: assuming the human isn't heavily clothed so fang length isn't a limiting factor. Inland taipan (and others) has more potent venom and isn't large, but the mamba's disposition makes it more likely the human is bitten before he manages to grab it.

Also, I'm assuming it's warm. If it's cool, the snakes lose.

Box jellyfish wins if we're in the water and the human isn't told where it is.

The irony.

Because some idiot was suggesting goillas had better endurance, and overall humans had poor endurance when in reality humans are at least top 1% and possibly even number one outright. And even average human beings are ridiculous. I'm no distance runner or amazing athlete and I can run for two straight hours with minimal problems and could almost certainly run 4 or 5 straight if I was being chases by a gorilla. When you say humans it's probably fair to imagine some Neolithic human who actually has to work for a living, but even if you don't humans are still very elite.

The second more general point I'd make is that people way underestimate instinct and ferocity among humans and overrate it among animals. You ROUTINELY see animals on the verge or starvation and death and just assume that is their baseline ferocity(which it prob is). You almost NEVER see humans this way so you shouldn't extrapolate from what a couch potato will do. Especially since if you are interested there are thousands of examples of humans doing amazing and horrible things when faced with death and despair so there is no reason at all to assume these guys are going to just curl up and meet their death with leotards full of **** and piss.

you could have crushed his skull or ripped his legs off with almost zero effort whatsoever.

You do understand the difference between trying to control an animal through reason and coaxing so as not to injure a beloved family pet and trying to best an animal in a fight to the death?

Universe explodes since both are invincible death machines

Nah, not so much. Unless you just grunched and didn't read any of the posts prior to that one.

Yea, I didn't think I would have so much trouble seeing humans take down a hippo/elephant, but it was pretty rough to watch. Even with spears and the numbers they have though, those guys have balls of steel for getting that close to a pissed off hippo.

Wat?

The average person can not get close to running for 2 hours.

define running

There is seriously no debate here. Silverback all day.

Silverback is much more flexible in his movements. He can jump trees, climb things, etc.

Once one human gets his head bashed in or severly injured, the other humans will back off and no one will attack. The grip of the gorilla is ridiculous. If it grabs an arm, neck, leg....done. Not to mention the thing can bite.

Even if all the 12 bbers are on the ape, I doube they could hold it down.

Bodybuilders have a hard time running or even sprinting for that matter. They can only do it in very short distances. While some of them may be fast, they gas out almost instantly b/c of all the muscle mass that needs oxygen.

Not to mention if there addrenaline is going....gas out even quicker.

Meanwhile....just another day for the gorilla.

God I hate getting involved in this **** but so much bro science and dumb **** being said.

For starters we might have better endurance at ****ing jogging long distances, but take the best marathon runner in the world and make him wrestle a decent grappler for 5 minutes. Guess which ones gassed as **** at the end. Running and fighting for your life are not the same thing, not even close.

2nd, we can debate strength all day, and like others have pointed out theres no real way to figure out how strong a gorilla is. What we do know is they are much stronger, and are ****ing savages. We keep pointing out muscles, when the reality is those ****ing massive canine teeth, super strong jaws, and the face that they are going to rip and tear, not punch and kick.

3rd, this one kind of caught me off guard, but look at how agile these ****ers are. This may not come into play in a legit cage match (Herb Dean will smack the Gorillas hand off the cage if he grabs it of course) but these things are surprisingly graceful and quick as ****. Now I am not pointing out who would win etc, just some of the stupid **** being said.



They are just playing, but the way these things can move, jump and climb while being tanks is pretty incredible.

Yea I laughed at this as well.

new derail; 40 body builders or a hippo?

imo body builders AINEC, first 10 sacrifice themselves and each try to blind it, once it's blind body slam it and jump on its spine ez game.

Yea I think a Hippo was once called the most dangerous animal, but I think that holds true for like a 1 on 1, I mean if that things comes at you, you lose. That said its only way off offense is its mouth and smashing you, a bunch of guys could gang up on it I think and pull something off... still a lot of people are dying in the process haha.

If the dudes are gonna have a shot, I think there would be some merit to getting the beast on its back. 4-5-3 head-on rush to knock the ****er over. Full body weight and strength of contestants applied to arms and legs of SB. Somebody still has to grab the trachea or larynx, tho.

Yes, they can. Have you ever been to a half marathon? Watch the tail end, there are some fat, old slobs trickling over that finish line around 2:30 to 2:45 that ran(ish) for the vast majority of that time.

And their incentive was "the thrill of finishing a half marathon" not "the thrill of not being eaten by a wolf."

The average American male, for example, is 5'9, 191 lbs. This guy can very likely run for 2 hours straight to win a 1k bet, and it is an absolute lock that he can run for 2 hours to avoid death. Average human worldwide is probably a half inch shorter and maybe 15-20 lbs lighter. The average man is 34 years old, the average American is probably a little bit older than that.

Those people that run those half marathons do not jump off the coach and jump into them. They train to just to be able to finish them and say they did. The average person is not getting of the coach and finishing a half marathon.

caught_clean,

- I don't think people are debating the endurance of humans compared to other animals because they think it will give them the advantage over the gorilla. It wont. I think they just want to compare the endurance of humans to other animals for ****s and giggles.

- I don't really think it matters much what the average human can do. To me, it's more about what humans are capable of. Technology has made it so that modern day humans can live pretty cushy lives now, where they sit around fat and happy. But take this away from them and make them have to hunt for their food again, and I imagine they're going to be pretty beastly (zing) when it comes to their stamina.

What do you think would happen if the average American male, lets say this 34 year old guy, 5'9", 191 lbs, jumps off the couch with no training and runs for 13.1 straight miles?

He'd get really tired? He'd give up and quit after about 4 miles? He's get a stress fracture in his foot, or pull a hamstring or something?

Its not like he is gonna have an MI and keel over, or his limbs will just disintegrate beneath him. Of course he could finish, he'd just hate himself in the morning. You know, in the morning, when he is still alive.

And this is because human beings are essentially built for distance running.

Between all this and this blisters, I'd say that about sums it up.

Humans are good distance runners, that's very true, but the average American no longer runs or even walks with enough frequency to complete a half marathon (running the whole way) without either injury or basically saying "holy **** this sucks, I'm not doing this."

Could someone who was motivated enough push through, even without training? Sure, as long as he didn't get too injured (discounting blisters). It would take a hell of a lot of motivation, though.

Everyone likes to bring up hunters out in the wild, but in those cultures people run from place to place as a means of travel, and walk huge distances just to hunt or carry water or whatever, so of course they're much more accustomed to the activity than some guy who sits behind a computer 10 hours a day and drives to work and maybe jogs on a treadmill for 30 minutes 3x a week.

Besides, this isn't an endurance event. The gorilla is going to kill everyone in less than 5 minutes.

"Just that I think they're pretty high up there. Feel free to show your work and prove that wrong though."

Where is the work that humans are among the tops in endurance? Where is the work that shows where the silverback gorilla falls on that list, relatively?

I mean, you even stated in that post "I think."