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01-28-2013 , 04:11 PM

#9876

JesusEatsCheese

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hope AlienSpaceBat applies the same rule he did for 50nlrush to choseone

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01-28-2013 , 04:13 PM

#9877

HU4hoes

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*facepalm*

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01-28-2013 , 04:14 PM

#9878

JesusEatsCheese

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

@chiego, and we b/f flop? and c/f turn right? or i have i got this wrong :s

lol an ssnl'er just replied to a really dumb post nicely and you reply like this

seriously

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01-28-2013 , 04:14 PM

#9879

AndyM2033

old hand

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B/f the flop with KK on a K9T board in a 3bet pot vs someone who isn't 100bbs deep? No way.

I prob make flop a little bigger and just jam every turn but its fine.

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01-28-2013 , 04:16 PM

#9880

gamma001

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Originally Posted by chiego

sizing is fine on a board that wet imo

shouldn't flop be sizing be closer to 80% ? or was that sarcasm?

edit, only noticed 4bet pot, my bad lol

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01-28-2013 , 04:18 PM

#9881

chiego

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

so what do u think to the KK hand i played?

im sure the turn is c/f, we literally get value from nothing and im never ahead...

@chiego, and we b/f flop? and c/f turn right? or i have i got this wrong :s

we fistpump on flop if he raises, and jam that turn as played and hope he doesnt instasnap us

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01-28-2013 , 04:42 PM

#9882

cbboy

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Its usually not the big pots that make someone like you a breakeven or losing player. everyone runs bad and has the same things happen to them.

It is the smaller pots (the pots that don't play themselves) that matter and make the difference - its the spots that you wouldn't even think of. Seriously- just take a look at your game, go over hands, get a coach.

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01-28-2013 , 04:50 PM

#9883

JesusEatsCheese

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

my post was serious... im not sure why you read it any other way
:/

cause you just asked if we should b/f the 2nd nuts on a wet flop in a 4b pot vs someone without a full stack

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01-28-2013 , 05:01 PM

#9884

chiego

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i dont even know what that stat means as total lol
what is your c/f flop vs pfr?
and same as pfr?

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01-28-2013 , 05:06 PM

#9885

JesusEatsCheese

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

ok well my bad for not understanding what to do in that spot

then move down to 5nl

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01-28-2013 , 05:09 PM

#9886

big_lebawski

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Originally Posted by dillchips

@big

seems like you're good most of the times, like chiego said, raise flop. not sure whether the call preflop is okay though.

+1

ty,
Actually, I was gonna fold it after he 3bet me preflop, but since it was a small bet to call, I called it anyway(to catch a flush draw), but I put him on AA,KK,QQ(since he limped UTG and then 3bet me) lucky for me that I won(He had AK), but I think I did not play this hand right.

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01-28-2013 , 05:12 PM

#9887

JesusEatsCheese

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

edit@ JEC, im a 6.5bb/100 winner at 10nl over 150k hands, why would i do that? its obv i can beat 25nl

cause if your playing 25nl you should know what to do on that flop

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01-28-2013 , 05:18 PM

#9888

khangura175

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Chosen, just stop man.. ur so tilting, no1 wants to hear ur whines

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01-28-2013 , 05:18 PM

#9889

AlienSpaceBat

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ChosenOne, I will be applying the same rule to you as I did to 50NLRush if you keep on posting bad beat whines.

Let me tell you something that is a lesson you have to learn when you play PLO - just because you have a big hand on the flop doesn't mean you have to shove all of your money in by the river when draws have come in.

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01-28-2013 , 05:19 PM

#9890

Dunna100

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

i c/f 92% as the pfr, that doesnt seem right :/ bcos i cbet 62%

Post a screenshot

Listen to the advice you're being given. I know it hurts. It will still hurt in the morning, and the day after, and the day after that. But one day you'll wake up and your head will hurt coz it's so light, your stomach will be churning coz the food tastes like nothing you've ever tasted before, you won't know why but it'll feel so good. Then you are ready...

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01-28-2013 , 05:32 PM

#9891

Big_Mick00

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when you check as pfr you c/f 92% the other 8% you c/r or c/c.

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01-28-2013 , 05:40 PM

#9892

AndyM2033

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UTG/EP seems a bit tight to me and I think BTN doesn't need to be that wide.

You cbet less as UTG opener than you do BTN. You should be cbetting a lot more here because your range is stronger.

Seems like you get involved from the blinds too much as well.

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01-28-2013 , 05:42 PM

#9893

chiego

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92% fold after checking as pfr seems bad, dont know what mine is

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01-28-2013 , 05:50 PM

#9894

Dunna100

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Maybe try here:
http://www.pokerlistings.com/strateg...holdem-manager

Or the cotw threads have leakfinding info in them, along with much more. Look here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...ntents-397190/

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01-28-2013 , 06:12 PM

#9895

big_lebawski

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 24

What's the correct way to play this hand on river?(I just called, should I 3bet?, the board was scary and because of that I have checked on turn and called on river, seems like a little passive to me.)

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15834631

Hero (BTN): $5.10 (102 bb)
SB: $6.40 (128 bb)
BB: $6.66 (133.2 bb)
UTG+1: $7.33 (146.6 bb)
UTG+2: $2.05 (41 bb)
MP1: $0.22 (4.4 bb)
MP2: $4.20 (84 bb)
MP3: $5.26 (105.2 bb)
CO: $8.12 (162.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

6 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.35) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.54, SB calls $0.39

Turn: ($1.43) 9

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.43) 3

(2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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01-28-2013 , 06:15 PM

#9896

chiego

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be tturn

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01-28-2013 , 06:18 PM

#9897

chad0x001

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Chosen one - people occasionally post the beats in here, but mostly when its really messed up - like all in pre 300bb+ deep with AA and lose to caller with 85s. As a previous poster said, its not the beats that are making you a loser, everyone has them and they even out. It will be loads of small hands where you couldd have stolen or 3bet or x/r'd, or you called flop and turn to fold river or called a bet oop, stuff like that, lots of little leaks that add up.

P.s. Drop down til you get your head straight or you will tilt it all away.