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01-28-2013 , 06:26 PM
i bet 1.2 on the turn

also i kinda just want to basically min raise river for value as we sorta always have the best hand
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01-28-2013 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chiego
id make it bigger, fold if raised
ty again,
sorry about asking too many questions,
let's assume that I bet on turn and he just calls it and he checks on river, should I check back or bet again for value? Since it's just a top pair and the board is really scary I'm not sure about betting again with all that flush, str8 and set possibilities...
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01-28-2013 , 06:34 PM
Honest question, how can you play 150k hands at 10nl and not know what to do in these spots? Doesn't make sense?
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01-28-2013 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
Can you stop posting as well please and stick to modding, that last paragraph hurts me internally
lolwat ? please explain.
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01-28-2013 , 06:37 PM
T7 - u kno theres somethin called pot control ..

K4s - no comment

Kq - lol this BB obv has nothing
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01-28-2013 , 06:40 PM
You are not doing it right. drop down, seriously. I would bet real cash money that part of your problem is to do with bankroll management issues - i.e. you arent rolled for 25nl.
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01-28-2013 , 06:42 PM
Dont raise T7o on the BTN if you cant play post flop. Two of them hands your on the BTN and basically dont know what to do.

Agree with pot control though, we aren't getting 3 streets here so I prefer to check back turn and try bluff catch river depending on bet size.
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01-28-2013 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

KQ, i disagree, they're repping trips/boats here, anytime ive tried to play back in these spots, they've either called or shoved.
3betting the flop is the worst way to play back in thses spots cause you then rep nothing

think of how you would play trips/a boat here
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01-28-2013 , 06:50 PM
You obv have some big leaks if your struggling with 25nl. Quicker you realise this and stop moaning about variance the quicker you can improve.

It's not the coolers or the 80/20 you lose that has the effect on you wr over a big sample. It's the extra bb you win by value betting thin or winning pot without SD when your opponent has a weak range and will fold. It's the time you see weaknesses in other games and you pound on them. It when you can fold a street earlier because you have thought about the next street rather then call and hope he checks back. So many little things why some win 2bb some win 5bb. It's not because they win more flips.

Work hard stop bitching.
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01-28-2013 , 06:50 PM
lol this thread
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01-28-2013 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
that was my first thought, i would call but what if they bet turn? generally i would call again and then c/r river

is there any merit to call flop, call turn, donk river?
i would prefer call then c/jam turn(obv just c/c a K or Q tho)


im just saying you can do this btw, not that you should do this all the time(or that often at all actually)
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01-28-2013 , 07:08 PM
All hands are very standard but H3 where I don't fold flop depends in villain how I play other streets
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01-28-2013 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
lolwat ? please explain.
because it sounded like you were advocating a fold in that KK hand
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01-28-2013 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chiego
because it sounded like you were advocating a fold in that KK hand
I wasn't referring to any particular hand. If I had been, I would have referred to it directly.
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01-28-2013 , 07:41 PM
lol the last few pages has shown how much this thread needs my posting, this thread will miss me, you may not realize it now, but you will eventually, it is much less interesting/fun now.
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01-28-2013 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
meh im even more convinced im just running terribly now and there really isnt much wrong with my game

every filter i run shows a good profit, every hand i post ppl say is played fine

im 2bb/100 under EV in the last 54k hands...
Maybe I'm the last one who you want advice from, but you do realize that 50k is not a big sample size and the fact that you show profit when you running below EV is a good thing?
I suggest that it would be better to focus on your winning hands, maybe that's your leak? maybe you can't extract enough from your winning hands? your AF is on high side, maybe you force your opponents to fold when they are behind by betting too much and make them play correctly(fold when they are behind)
By the way your stats looks good, good luck
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01-28-2013 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 50nlRushandBeyond
lol the last few pages has shown how much this thread needs my posting, this thread will miss me, you may not realize it now, but you will eventually, it is much less interesting/fun now.
Coming to stars soon boy you better still be around
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01-28-2013 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
meh im even more convinced im just running terribly now and there really isnt much wrong with my game
to say there isnt much wrong with your game is silly. I play higher and know there is a 10000000 things wrong with my game.

maybe 6.5bb/100 isnt your actual winrate at 10nl?
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01-28-2013 , 07:50 PM
Who is the bigger nl2 zoom winner and what is his win rate?

Are you play fast poker at party?NL4 fast is softer than NL2 zoom?(6 max)
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01-28-2013 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
Coming to stars soon boy you better still be around
Well you better hope your live play can cover your losses
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01-28-2013 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
im not sure why anyone would want to play vs 50nlrush, he runs way too good.

@big lebawski, i couldnt agree with you more

i basically think there are a lot of ppl itt who have absolutely no idea about variation/standard deviation


doing some quick runs in EV simulator, if i was a 5bb/100 winner, my biggest downswing over 54k hands would be at most 21 BI's (currently at 18.5) and my longst BE stretch would be 51.7k hands and id still be a true 5bb/100 winner.

sure i have leaks and need to work on my game but theres no way im a 6.5bb/100 winner at 10nl and a loser at 25nl...
Actually downing from 6bb/100 in nl10 to 1bb/100 in nl25 is quite normal, just check blackrain79 's stats, He was 5.38bb/100 in nl10 but 1.35bb/100 in nl25.
So just try to stay positive and try to play your A game and do not try to force things. By tilting and saying that I'm running bad nothing will changes.
This game is very complicated and small changes can result way too much in the end result. Maybe just folding a few hands preflop(like T7o and K4s) and by changing few other small things makes you a winner in nl25.
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01-28-2013 , 08:06 PM
Dunna convinced me to try 888 tonight. Free $20 ($2 in cash game money, $18 in tourney tickets) plenty of tables, fishy players (presumably beause of the free $2). Are there any other decent sites? Ive got FT and Stars obv, tried carbon before but it was rubbish, pretty much no players. Looking for sites with free $ and plenty players.
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01-28-2013 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
every filter i run shows a good profit, every hand i post ppl say is played fine
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne

maybe you arent a winner in your games? maybe you arent a winner at any stake...
This guys hilarious LOL
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01-28-2013 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
i meant there isnt much thats so wrong that im not going to be a winner at 25nl...

maybe you arent a winner in your games? maybe you arent a winner at any stake...
lmao
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01-28-2013 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
meh im even more convinced im just running terribly now and there really isnt much wrong with my game

every filter i run shows a good profit, every hand i post ppl say is played fine

im 2bb/100 under EV in the last 54k hands...
This isnt true.

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Originally Posted by Chosen0ne
i meant there isnt much thats so wrong that im not going to be a winner at 25nl...

maybe you arent a winner in your games? maybe you arent a winner at any stake...
Burnss is one of the best players/posters in this thread, have you read any of it before you started posting your beats?

Your attitude and your mental game need work.
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