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02-12-2013 , 10:52 PM
87s - Dont u think that considering he just got c/r'd on the K, he will check back alot of weaker Kx?.. Lets say KT/KQ or something, Its unlikely he tries to get value wit it.. KJ he would.. AA he might too..

AT - standard. esp vs such a small riv bet

Q9 - Depends exactly how weak we talking.. He'd have to b pretty damn weak to call As there.. As is actually really weak vs even a normal bet in that spot.. Ud have to hope he has FH..

ak - idfold, he obv likes his hand n calling price is too high n 4bettn doesnt seem that good as its unlikely he folds n prob shoves
02-13-2013 , 12:04 AM
lol spaz inducer vs agg reg


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $21.22
SB: $5.50
BB: $14.71
UTG: $9.75
MP: $10.75
CO: $8.05

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) K 2 K
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.85, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($3.05, 2 players) 3
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

BB shows Q 9 (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (Pre 26%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows Q K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 74%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $7.69
02-13-2013 , 12:38 AM
Pretty sure this villain is double cupped n LEANIN

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $12.27
SB: $10.01
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.85
MP: $5.50
CO: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, BB raises to $10.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.75

Flop: ($20.05, 2 players) 7 5 T

Turn: ($20.05, 2 players) 3

River: ($20.05, 2 players) K

BB shows 2 2 (Flush, Ten High) (Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A A (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 82%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $19.15
02-13-2013 , 05:17 AM
^Nice.
I often see 22, 44, 66, etc. either shoved pre or over a raise.
Nice when you have aces, lol.
02-13-2013 , 05:18 AM
@tda
h1 fold turn, even if we hit our flush we can't be sure that our flush is the best hand, can't vbet with tpmk as well. or at least fold river, he isn't bluffing there most of the times. would def cut down on the spew.
h2 call down seems alright, if you have dynamics that he cbets alot and doesn't double barrel
h3 seems wp

@khan KQ hand would just raise river for value because he isn't going to have AK, he would 3b pre

Last edited by dillchips; 02-13-2013 at 05:27 AM.
02-13-2013 , 05:29 AM
Yea I was wondering if I should raise or calll..

I figured the only Kx he has that I beat are KT n KJ n he would do this same thing w 22 n 99 as well so..

Guess raise/fold mightve been aite
02-13-2013 , 07:44 AM
easy call, don't raise
02-13-2013 , 10:58 AM
Hmm, don't help my bankroll when I misclick fold 77 with two calling stations to my left and flop a set, river FH...

On the other hand, running good when it comes to fishies randomly shoving.
Was suprised and a little worried both called.
Equity of KK drops multiway, and pre is only 53% against their specific hands.
And was actually behind on the flop to the flush draw guy.

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $2.00
SB: $3.07
Hero (BB): $2.45
UTG: $0.78
CO: $1.00

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K K

UTG calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.04, fold, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG calls $0.18, CO calls $0.16, fold

Flop: ($0.64, 3 players) Q 9 3
Hero bets $0.44, UTG raises to $0.58 and is all-in, CO raises to $0.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($2.82, 3 players) 7

River: ($2.82, 3 players) 2

Spoiler:
CO shows T A (High Card, Ace) (Pre 29%, Flop 46%, Turn 29%)
Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 53%, Flop 41%, Turn 62%)
UTG shows J Q (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 18%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)
Hero wins $2.64
02-13-2013 , 07:53 PM
seems std hawk wp
02-14-2013 , 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
Hmm, don't help my bankroll when I misclick fold 77 with two calling stations to my left and flop a set, river FH...
lol that **** tilts me so much, I missclicked today too. missclick folded AA facing a 4 bet shove.

however downswing over... I hope. Moved up to 5nl today. so glad to leave 2nl in the dust. I hope.

02-14-2013 , 02:31 PM
2 days running, 3BI rostucko and back to Rostucko. Actually 5Bi up today. Some hands.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16027691

    Hero (BTN): $5.72 (114.4 bb)
    SB: $11.87 (237.4 bb)
    BB: $7.15 (143 bb)
    UTG: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
    MP: $19.04 (380.8 bb)
    CO: $7.59 (151.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with J T
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, SB folds, BB calls $0.07

    Flop: ($0.26) J 9 Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.15, BB raises to $7.03 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $0.56 pot ($0.02 rake)
    Final Board: J 9 Q
    Hero mucked J T and lost (-$0.27 net)
    BB mucked and won $0.54 ($0.27 net)



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      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (BTN): $5.85 (117 bb)
      SB: $7.93 (158.6 bb)
      BB: $5.38 (107.6 bb)
      UTG: $6.16 (123.2 bb)
      MP: $5.10 (102 bb)
      CO: $7.43 (148.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 3
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.37) 9 5 3 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, CO raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $2.85, CO folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $2.87 pot ($0.12 rake)
      Final Board: 9 5 3
      Hero mucked 3 3 and won $2.75 ($1.35 net)
      CO mucked and lost (-$1.40 net)



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        BTN: $2.64 (52.8 bb)
        SB: $9.17 (183.4 bb)
        Hero (BB): $7.22 (144.4 bb)
        UTG: $1.36 (27.2 bb)
        MP: $9.96 (199.2 bb)
        CO: $5.72 (114.4 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
        UTG raises to $1.36 and is all-in, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.31

        Flop: ($2.74) 3 Q 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: ($2.74) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($2.74) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $2.74 pot ($0.11 rake)
        Final Board: 3 Q 7 J 9
        Hero showed A A and lost (-$1.36 net)
        UTG showed 4 5 and won $2.63 ($1.27 net)



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          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16027721

          BTN: $13.85 (277 bb)
          SB: $5.03 (100.6 bb)
          Hero (BB): $13.59 (271.8 bb)
          UTG: $2.26 (45.2 bb)
          MP: $6.90 (138 bb)
          CO: $3.56 (71.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 2
          UTG raises to $0.15, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.10

          Flop: ($0.32) 2 9 J (2 players)
          Hero checks, UTG bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.55, UTG raises to $1.15, Hero raises to $3.76, UTG calls $0.96 and is all-in

          Turn: ($4.54) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          River: ($4.54) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $4.54 pot ($0.19 rake)
          Final Board: 2 9 J T 9
          Hero showed 2 2 and won $4.35 ($2.09 net)
          UTG mucked J A and lost (-$2.26 net)



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            Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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            BTN: $5 (100 bb)
            Hero (SB): $6.34 (126.8 bb)
            BB: $5.64 (112.8 bb)
            UTG: $2.72 (54.4 bb)
            MP: $5.05 (101 bb)
            CO: $5.73 (114.6 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
            3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, BTN raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $6.34 and is all-in, BTN folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $2.45 pot
            Hero mucked A A and won $2.45 ($1.25 net)



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              Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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              BTN: $2.50 (50 bb)
              SB: $9.20 (184 bb)
              BB: $5.68 (113.6 bb)
              Hero (UTG): $7.58 (151.6 bb)
              MP: $7.58 (151.6 bb)
              CO: $3.14 (62.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is UTG with A Q
              Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BB calls $0.10

              Flop: ($0.32) 6 8 A (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

              Turn: ($0.82) 8 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.47, BB calls $0.47

              River: ($1.76) 4 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $1.01, BB calls $1.01

              Spoiler:
              Results: $3.78 pot ($0.16 rake)
              Final Board: 6 8 A 8 4
              BB mucked A 6 and lost (-$1.88 net)
              Hero showed A Q and won $3.62 ($1.74 net)



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                Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                BTN: $1.74 (34.8 bb)
                SB: $4.23 (84.6 bb)
                BB: $10.29 (205.8 bb)
                UTG: $5.43 (108.6 bb)
                Hero (MP): $5 (100 bb)
                CO: $5.05 (101 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
                UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.20

                Flop: ($0.82) 4 7 5 (3 players)
                UTG checks, Hero bets $0.63, BTN calls $0.63, UTG raises to $5.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.12 and is all-in, BTN calls $0.86 and is all-in

                Turn: ($11.81) 6 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
                River: ($11.81) 8 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $11.81 pot ($0.49 rake)
                Final Board: 4 7 5 6 8
                BTN showed 9 8 and won $5.07 ($3.33 net)
                UTG showed 3 4 and won $3.13 (-$1.87 net)
                Hero showed A A and won $3.12 (-$1.88 net)



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                  Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                  BTN: $7.83 (156.6 bb)
                  SB: $3.69 (73.8 bb)
                  BB: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
                  UTG: $3.75 (75 bb)
                  MP: $10.31 (206.2 bb)
                  Hero (CO): $5.49 (109.8 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 Q
                  UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN folds, SB calls $0.23, 2 folds, MP calls $0.20

                  Flop: ($0.85) 6 K J (3 players)
                  SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

                  Turn: ($0.85) T (3 players)
                  SB bets $0.35, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.40, SB raises to $3.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.04

                  River: ($7.73) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $7.73 pot ($0.32 rake)
                  Final Board: 6 K J T 9
                  SB showed J 6 and lost (-$3.69 net)
                  MP mucked and lost (-$0.25 net)
                  Hero showed 9 Q and won $7.41 ($3.72 net)



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                    BTN: $4.48 (89.6 bb)
                    Hero (SB): $9.80 (196 bb)
                    BB: $3.98 (79.6 bb)
                    UTG: $7.91 (158.2 bb)
                    MP: $3.11 (62.2 bb)
                    CO: $4.95 (99 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
                    UTG raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

                    Flop: ($0.50) J Q 4 (3 players)
                    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, Hero raises to $1.40, UTG calls $1.05, BTN folds

                    Turn: ($3.65) 3 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $2.75, UTG calls $2.75

                    River: ($9.15) K (2 players)
                    Hero bets $5.50 and is all-in, UTG calls $3.61 and is all-in

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $16.37 pot ($0.68 rake)
                    Final Board: J Q 4 3 K
                    Hero showed 4 4 and won $15.69 ($7.78 net)
                    UTG mucked J Q and lost (-$7.91 net)



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                    02-14-2013 , 04:30 PM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by chad0x001
                    2 days running, 3BI rostucko and back to Rostucko. Actually 5Bi up today. Some hands.
                    rostucko?

                    how has your journey been last year chad? figured you would be hitting 25nl by now, had any set backs?

                    have you got a lifetime graph? Im just curious.. I havnt been on the ofrums for time.
                    02-14-2013 , 04:32 PM


                    last days been going good.

                    Soon back to 10nl
                    02-14-2013 , 07:21 PM
                    hi 3pedemic, noticed you were back recently. how you going mate?

                    My poker journey has been interesting. Ive learned a lot. still poor results. thrashing around at 5nl. still waiting to reach the tipping point where I know enough more than the average fish to destruct them.
                    02-14-2013 , 07:36 PM
                    QQ villain is 6/6 over 200 odd hands. 10% 3bet threw (sp?) me but you know, he only opens so few hands that 10% is probably just KK and AA. AJo hand is vs a very aggro guy I have about 100 hands on. the last hand I had already selected sit out all tables next bb.

                      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16028271

                      BTN: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
                      SB: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
                      Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
                      UTG: $4.54 (90.8 bb)
                      MP: $16.28 (325.6 bb)
                      CO: $3.49 (69.8 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
                      2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.35

                      Flop: ($1.02) J 4 4 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75

                      Turn: ($2.52) Q (2 players)
                      Hero bets $2.25, CO folds

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $2.52 pot ($0.10 rake)
                      Final Board: J 4 4 Q
                      Hero mucked A A and won $2.42 ($1.17 net)
                      CO mucked and lost (-$1.25 net)



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                        Hero (BTN): $5.66 (113.2 bb)
                        SB: $1.97 (39.4 bb)
                        BB: $5.65 (113 bb)
                        UTG: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
                        MP: $10.59 (211.8 bb)
                        CO: $5 (100 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BTN with T J
                        UTG raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

                        Flop: ($0.37) 8 9 K (2 players)
                        UTG bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

                        Turn: ($0.77) 7 (2 players)
                        UTG checks, Hero bets $0.55, UTG folds

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $0.77 pot ($0.03 rake)
                        Final Board: 8 9 K 7
                        Hero mucked T J and won $0.74 ($0.39 net)
                        UTG mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)



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                          BTN: $2.80 (56 bb)
                          Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
                          BB: $6.71 (134.2 bb)
                          UTG: $9.19 (183.8 bb)
                          MP: $8.12 (162.4 bb)
                          CO: $2.72 (54.4 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
                          UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

                          Flop: ($0.35) 9 2 A (2 players)
                          Hero bets $0.25, MP raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $1.40, MP calls $0.70

                          Turn: ($3.15) K (2 players)
                          Hero checks, MP bets $3.45, Hero calls $3.45 and is all-in

                          River: ($10.05) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $10.05 pot ($0.42 rake)
                          Final Board: 9 2 A K J
                          Hero showed A J and won $9.63 ($4.63 net)
                          MP mucked 7 A and lost (-$5 net)



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                            BTN: $10.33 (206.6 bb)
                            SB: $6 (120 bb)
                            BB: $3.56 (71.2 bb)
                            UTG: $2.01 (40.2 bb)
                            MP: $6.88 (137.6 bb)
                            Hero (CO): $5.97 (119.4 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
                            UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 3 folds

                            Flop: ($0.37) 6 K 4 (2 players)
                            MP bets $0.30, Hero folds

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $0.37 pot ($0.02 rake)
                            Final Board: 6 K 4
                            MP mucked and won $0.35 ($0.20 net)
                            Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$0.15 net)



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                              BTN: $3.86 (77.2 bb)
                              SB: $5.84 (116.8 bb)
                              BB: $2.68 (53.6 bb)
                              Hero (UTG): $5.89 (117.8 bb)
                              MP: $5 (100 bb)
                              CO: $5.71 (114.2 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q A
                              Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.45, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.30

                              Flop: ($0.97) K T 7 (2 players)
                              Hero checks, MP bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

                              Turn: ($1.97) J (2 players)
                              Hero checks, MP bets $1.05, Hero raises to $2.90, MP raises to $4.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.15

                              River: ($10.07) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $10.07 pot ($0.42 rake)
                              Final Board: K T 7 J T
                              Hero showed Q A and lost (-$5 net)
                              MP showed K K and won $9.65 ($4.65 net)



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                              Last edited by chad0x001; 02-14-2013 at 07:42 PM.
                              02-14-2013 , 07:39 PM
                              AJ - hopefully u hav read to 3bet this
                              QQ - definitely never folding vs cbet on Kxx .. Thats jus nitty as hell LOL

                              U guys think these folds are aight?
                              Both vs nittier players..
                              Usually I'd call the 2nd hand but I feel lke hes jus gonna bet again n im gonna get owned.. He wouldnt donk like KJ

                              PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                              Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

                              BTN: $23.43
                              SB: $18.52
                              BB: $9.85
                              Hero (UTG): $14.24
                              MP: $13.59
                              CO: $28.70

                              SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

                              Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

                              Hero raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

                              Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 8 9 2
                              Hero bets $0.45, CO raises to $1.30, fold

                              CO wins $1.58


                              PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                              Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

                              BTN: $11.11
                              SB: $10.05
                              BB: $37.30
                              UTG: $24.95
                              Hero (MP): $10.22
                              CO: $7.39

                              SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

                              Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J A

                              fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

                              Flop: ($0.90, 3 players) 9 J T
                              SB checks, BB bets $0.64, fold, fold

                              BB wins $0.86
                              02-14-2013 , 07:41 PM
                              I have just had my first disasterous session. Took shot at NL10 and did well. Dropped back to NL5 though for a nice long session. Ended 8BI down (6 of run bad and 2 of tilt at the end with QQ and AKs AIPF (vs KK and AA obviously). NL10 winnings soften the blow a bit but will be back in NL5 for a long time yet to recover from that hit to my BR. Basically all my stats were the same as usual session except Win SD which was 36%! I've never seen the like of that as I'm pretty tight. Normally runs 57-65%. This was only 2k hands. If downswings last 20k plus hands I've not sure I will survive it. Another 10 sessions like that would have me quitting pokerz I think! Please just some run even. Not worried about run good but just not this for too much longer please!

                              Last edited by thetallpaul; 02-14-2013 at 07:43 PM. Reason: Cos I suck at typing like I suck at pokerz
                              02-14-2013 , 07:45 PM
                              dont tilt off 2 bi's
                              02-14-2013 , 07:47 PM
                              The QQ n AKs hands mightve not been cuz of tilt, depending on villain stats that is.. U run into his KK but what if his stack off range was TT+,AQ+?

                              I dont know why ur putting only the QQ/AKs as tilt hands tho lol u were destined to lose a decent amount even if u got away or just called down to river or whatever
                              I think the 6 "run bad" bi are more where the tilt was
                              02-14-2013 , 07:49 PM
                              khan, I stealth edited that hands post while you were posting a reply to the original. Just so happens I mentioned the hands you commented on
                              02-14-2013 , 08:00 PM
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by khangura175
                              The QQ n AKs hands mightve not been cuz of tilt, depending on villain stats that is.. U run into his KK but what if his stack off range was TT+,AQ+?

                              I dont know why ur putting only the QQ/AKs as tilt hands tho lol u were destined to lose a decent amount even if u got away or just called down to river or whatever
                              I think the 6 "run bad" bi are more where the tilt was
                              I say they were tilt as usually they are not in my stack of range unless the opponent is a maniac. I had no read that they were mental but got into 3bet, 4bet, shove loops anyway. Not totally awful I guess to most players but out of character for me hence tilt. But yeah the QQ hand was on low flop so unlikely to have got away and the AK hand I made the straight but he hit set on the flop and boat on the river so again I'm not getting away from that anyway.

                              The other 6 was not me calling down light or opening wider. My PFR and VPIP was may standard 20/18/4 for 6 max. All other stats were the same as stated. Just got crushed by everything. I'm sure I was making mistakes but not more than usual I don't think. I'm on a session review now though to see how this can have happened. Will put some hands up in a sec.
                              02-14-2013 , 08:08 PM
                              you know, during a session if I played a hand I want to look at again, I just cut and paste it into notepad, add next hand at the end and so on. Might be worth a go.
                              02-14-2013 , 08:17 PM
                              I really can't find that many hands to show. Just lots of complete failures to hit flop and then getting bet into. Maybe could have defended more but was Zoom so really don't think was being exploited. I think they just had it.

                              Apart from the two already mentioned the only 3 I lost more than $2 are:





                              [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16028361

                              BTN: $2.12 (42.4 bb)
                              SB: $4.70 (94 bb)
                              BB: $3.26 (65.2 bb)
                              UTG: $7.30 (146 bb)
                              Hero (MP): $5 (100 bb)
                              CO: $3 (60 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 J
                              UTG folds, Hero calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

                              Flop: ($0.82) 7 5 T (3 players)
                              Hero bets $0.58, CO raises to $1.75, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4.75 and is all-in, CO calls $1 and is all-in

                              Turn: ($6.32) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                              River: ($6.32) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                              Yeah I know fold pre, fold flop but its not that terrible with the combo draw and the dead money after his raise. But yeah again this is not my style so tilt is in play.


                              [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16028371

                              BTN: $5 (100 bb)
                              SB: $9.13 (182.6 bb)
                              BB: $44.91 (898.2 bb)
                              Hero (UTG): $5.05 (101 bb)
                              MP: $5.19 (103.8 bb)
                              CO: $5.38 (107.6 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 9
                              Hero raises to $0.14, MP raises to $0.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.11

                              Flop: ($0.57) 6 2 6 (2 players)
                              Hero checks, MP bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

                              Turn: ($1.17) 7 (2 players)
                              Hero checks, MP bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.20, MP calls $0.60

                              River: ($3.57) T (2 players)
                              Hero checks, MP checks


                              Don't think this is too awful with overpair.



                              [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16028381

                              BTN: $4.84 (96.8 bb)
                              SB: $5 (100 bb)
                              BB: $1.71 (34.2 bb)
                              UTG: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
                              MP: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
                              Hero (CO): $5 (100 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A
                              UTG calls $0.05, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.14, 2 folds, BB calls $0.09, UTG calls $0.09

                              Flop: ($0.44) 4 J Q (3 players)
                              BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

                              Turn: ($1.34) 2 (3 players)
                              BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.28, BB calls $1.27 and is all-in, UTG folds

                              River: ($3.88) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                              This one is a straight forward cooler really I think with the short stack.

                              All villains are Zoom with little reads. Some pots you lose. The issue was that I won no decent pots so got death of 1000 cuts. The graph is just a straight down redline and blue line. Just need a break to take stock of this. I actually won more on before the rot started anyway so I'm only down like $15 for the day so not awful but thats due to $15 good hands before it all went downhill.
                              02-14-2013 , 08:21 PM
                              Oh ok haha makes more sense chad..

                              paul, dont limp/call J9s, n dont donk flop..
                              99 - dont c/.r turn



                              Man.. Fishies r way too funny sometimes..


                              PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                              Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

                              Hero (BTN): $13.19
                              SB: $2.67
                              BB: $18.24
                              UTG: $12.34
                              MP: $10.43
                              CO: $4.99

                              SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

                              Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K K

                              fold, MP raises to $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $0.80, fold, fold, MP calls $0.60

                              Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 6 9 3
                              MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

                              Turn: ($4.75, 2 players) Q
                              MP bets $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

                              River: ($11.15, 2 players) 3
                              MP bets $4.93 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.93

                              MP shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Threes) (Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
                              Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Threes) (Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
                              Hero wins $20.06


                              PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                              Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

                              BTN: $10.00
                              SB: $18.90
                              BB: $5.17
                              UTG: $13.63
                              MP: $16.43
                              Hero (CO): $22.97

                              SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

                              Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 7 A

                              fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, SB calls $0.20, fold

                              Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) 7 5 T
                              SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

                              Turn: ($1.00, 2 players) A
                              SB checks, Hero bets $0.65, SB calls $0.65

                              River: ($2.30, 2 players) A
                              SB bets $17.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.80

                              SB shows Q A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 69%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
                              Hero shows 7 A (Full House, Aces full of Sevens) (Pre 31%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)
                              Hero wins $36.40
                              02-14-2013 , 08:21 PM
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by chad0x001
                              hi 3pedemic, noticed you were back recently. how you going mate?

                              My poker journey has been interesting. Ive learned a lot. still poor results. thrashing around at 5nl. still waiting to reach the tipping point where I know enough more than the average fish to destruct them.
                              Well good luck with that. Im trying to run up the limits as fast as possible at the moment. move up at 30bi and back down at 25bi. Still trying to overcome the stress of run bad and downswings. Oh and more volume.

                              ill get there eventually.

                              ill probably be around a lot more now so ill see you around, i notice you have been quite active on here. gl

                                    
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