fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.90, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, BB raises to $10.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.60
Flop:($21.20, 2 players) 5 Q 7
Turn:($21.20, 2 players) 6
River:($21.20, 2 players) 2
BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 87%, Turn 75%) Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 18%, Flop 13%, Turn 25%) BB wins $20.25
khang, how are you calling turn shove there?
Do you think he rarely has the flush or are you just never folding top set?
Couple of odd hands against spewy fish.
They take lines like this a lot and I often fold without something very good.
H1: Could be a steal but also have a value hand.
Standard 70% betsizing from me.
Fish always make their hand on one street then shove on the next one.
This guy was bad - dumped about 3BI in 40 hands playing garbage and raising with garbage.
I did worry slightly - he's got more full houses in his range here than me - J9/J5/J6.
River:($0.94, 2 players) 6 Hero bets $0.65, BTN raises to $2.17 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.89 and is all-in
Spoiler:
BTN shows 4 J (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 24%, Flop 12%, Turn 14%) Hero shows J K (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 76%, Flop 88%, Turn 86%) Hero wins $3.76
H2: An aggro tard. I'd iso'd him before and he 3 bet every time.
Also he kept doing random stuff like cold 4 overbets.
Looked a lot like he wanted folds.
He would pot flop with 2 pair or sets also.
I fold in these spots almost always - 1 pair after all - but I'd been observing him and I reckon 90% of his bets were bluffs.
khang, how are you calling turn shove there?
Do you think he rarely has the flush or are you just never folding top set?
Couple of odd hands against spewy fish.
They take lines like this a lot and I often fold without something very good.
H1: Could be a steal but also have a value hand.
Standard 70% betsizing from me.
Fish always make their hand on one street then shove on the next one.
This guy was bad - dumped about 3BI in 40 hands playing garbage and raising with garbage.
I did worry slightly - he's got more full houses in his range here than me - J9/J5/J6.
River:($0.94, 2 players) 6 Hero bets $0.65, BTN raises to $2.17 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.89 and is all-in
Spoiler:
BTN shows 4 J (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 24%, Flop 12%, Turn 14%) Hero shows J K (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 76%, Flop 88%, Turn 86%) Hero wins $3.76
H2: An aggro tard. I'd iso'd him before and he 3 bet every time.
Also he kept doing random stuff like cold 4 overbets.
Looked a lot like he wanted folds.
He would pot flop with 2 pair or sets also.
I fold in these spots almost always - 1 pair after all - but I'd been observing him and I reckon 90% of his bets were bluffs.
Hawk:
Its a 3bet pot so his flush combos are not as high..
Also, I felt his most likely hand, assuming he is shoving for value, is JJ, so folding is just completely out of the question here.. Plus Im not even in that bad shape compared to my odds im getting vs a flush
JK - more on turn n river.. ez river call tho, he has some Jx that are filled up but if he can hav J6 and J5, this means he also can hav J7,J8,JT,JQ etc
QK - U say most of his bets are bluffs, then y r u raising flop? This is simply going to make him fold his bluffs
Call the flop and call his turn shove, if he checks turn then u can shove on any card that came
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how is he decent doing this? your also giving him great odds on all his draws.
Im joking, hes not decent for doin that LOL..
And my bet sizing obv was good when he calls my small flop bet with KJ lol
Had I bombed it, hes jus gonna fold KJ cuz its obv I have at least Ax..
Hawk:
Its a 3bet pot so his flush combos are not as high..
Also, I felt his most likely hand, assuming he is shoving for value, is JJ, so folding is just completely out of the question here.. Plus Im not even in that bad shape compared to my odds im getting vs a flush
OK, I see. KQ hearts might call the 3 bet but that's basically the only flush you think he'll have and that's unlikely?
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QK - U say most of his bets are bluffs, then y r u raising flop? This is simply going to make him fold his bluffs
Ah...good point.
I guess my think was get it in while I'm probably good and if he is playing a flush/straight draw aggressively then make him pay.
Turns out he had nothing but maybe called hoping to spike an A or backdoor flush or straight.
no offence but that line seems a little spewy to me... your backup line if called was check it down?
I feel like folding or 3 betting preflop is more profitable than flatting oop, as played you should probably unload the clip on turn and river. I mean most hands you might flat with here and raise the flop would barrel every street. 55, 33, 99, A high flush draws.
sorry, just felt like reviewing those hands before i call it a night. correct me if im wrong guys.
Like I said, villain specific. He folded to a whole bunch of flop c/r and was cbetting 100% HU, so the c/r is profitable in itself. However, his conti. range wasn't going to fold the turn, and a bunch of his FDs made TP on the river, plus I don't rep a strong range at this point, so I don't think a river bluff would be profitable.
Downswing replaced by upswing - 5BI in last 800 hands.
Same random fish who shove river to make you fold, except I have had the hands to call.
I've seen 85o shoved over a raise and a call pre, all kinds of junk.
Someone was playing 95/75 to my right.
Second hand at the table I folded 8s pre because he was unknown.
The guy who called was a lolfish too - although he did get stacked with AKo < Q3s which flopped a 3 too
Okay, having aces helps but really - you gonna risk your stack all in pre with his hand?
And it's always nice to get aces in pre. Pretty easy against these types.
UTG raises to $0.07, fold, CO raises to $0.39, fold, Hero raises to $1.14, fold, fold, CO raises to $1.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.64
Flop:($3.65, 2 players) 2 8 6
Turn:($3.65, 2 players) 6
River:($3.65, 2 players) 6
Spoiler:
CO shows 4 K (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 12%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%) Hero shows A A (Full House, Sixes full of Aces) (Pre 88%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%) Hero wins $3.41
Have now spun a free $20 into $35 in 4k hands of 2NL at FTP - might deposit and check out the 5NL tables.
So pilifish is playing 25NL now... and holy **** am I glad of it (FWIW, I never flat this pre if it's someone else opening):
Ha, Iv seen him a lot at 25NL what was he playing before? I have him tagged a nit at first but think sample getting bigger he isn't as much as I thought.
Infact think you can get in trouble on here for naming players and talking about them so better not say anymore.
Pilifish is winning at both 25nl and 10nl on both my samples of him (granted only 500 hands of each). :P Looking at his stats he doesn't seem that bad, bit of a nitreg but there are much much worse players in zoom.
I folded for two reasons. First, we are pretty deep and I think that when you are playing deep top/over pair have less value compared to 100BB. The second reason is that I do not see him raise with worse.
totch - what would he raise with (that would call a 3 bet pre)?
JJ pretty sure
AJ maybe
AK/AQ/AT/KQ clubs possibly
I would probably call then re-evaluate river, but someone will probably give better advice
I folded for two reasons. First, we are pretty deep and I think that when you are playing deep top/over pair have less value compared to 100BB. The second reason is that I do not see him raise with worse.
Am I correct or is my reasoning totally wrong?
Thanks in advance guys.
Bigger pre. Make it closer to .30. We want a much more favourable SPR for this pot considering we're deep, and we're OOP. I think I'd call the flop, it's fairly wet. I'd also probably make a 1/2 pot blocker on the turn to charge draws, plus we can be fairly certain we're beaten if he raises again.
totch - what would he raise with (that would call a 3 bet pre)?
JJ pretty sure
AJ maybe
AK/AQ/AT/KQ clubs possibly
I would probably call then re-evaluate river, but someone will probably give better advice
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Bigger pre. Make it closer to .30. We want a much more favourable SPR for this pot considering we're deep, and we're OOP. I think I'd call the flop, it's fairly wet. I'd also probably make a 1/2 pot blocker on the turn to charge draws, plus we can be fairly certain we're beaten if he raises again.
Yeah after thinking about your advices I think that a call would have been good. I didn't realise that he is giving me a really good price to do so.
Is this complete spewtard, or actually not too bad? Villain is looking reggish over a small sample. I figured that his river betting range was mostly Kx and he'd have to fold that stuff?