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09-16-2010 , 06:55 PM

#5251

Morladim

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 31

Thanks a lot for your detailed response, really appreciate it. I'm glad I had it so wrong and it's great to know I'm making that rakeback even if I only cash in 1/3 of the satty's. I'm also relieved because it means I can stay at Stars where I much prefer the software.

My current system is to grind fpp's playing 10nl FR cash where I'm a slight winner, then play the satty's and use the $T to play sng's where I can achieve a steady 20% roi to pad my roll and eventually take some shots at 25nl.

Thanks again .

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09-16-2010 , 07:28 PM

#5252

Cry Me A River

Orange is the new Green

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,783

Note: You can also buy and sell T$ here:

W$/T$ Marketplace V9.0! Buy & Sell W$/T$ here!

I think the going rate is around 99.5% but it's been a while since I sold any.

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09-17-2010 , 09:24 AM

#5253

TopCat123

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,804

Could somebody point me in the direction of the best threads/articles on 2+2 about controlling tilt or downswings?

Thanks.

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09-17-2010 , 12:09 PM

#5254

RsC777

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 16

what does OTR stand for?
like in this link:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...vs-c-r-873832/

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09-17-2010 , 12:11 PM

#5255

shane5495

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,906

On The Flop (OTF)

On The Turn (OTT)

On The River (OTR)

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09-17-2010 , 12:16 PM

#5256

shane5495

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,906

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Originally Posted by TopCat123

Could somebody point me in the direction of the best threads/articles on 2+2 about controlling tilt or downswings?

Thanks.

iirc there was a COTW on tilt and a link to another thread about in tilt in one of the replies in the COTW table of contents. Also I think SammyG-SD had a thread about downswings.

EDIT surviving-downswing

Tilt Management; SwAyWithSkill

TDK Rocks Tilt Management

I haven't read all of them yet, but i'm assuming they are good

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09-17-2010 , 02:12 PM

#5257

TopCat123

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,804

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Originally Posted by shane5495

thanks!

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09-18-2010 , 05:24 PM

#5258

shane5495

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,906

Hom much can you afford to lose?

Do you have any experience or are you only starting to play poker?

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09-18-2010 , 05:33 PM

#5259

BuNeBe

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9

its depends on million of things,

how much u earn, how much wouldnt hurt you if u lose it?

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09-18-2010 , 08:21 PM

#5260

TopCat123

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,804

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Originally Posted by EH&S

What should be a good amount to make a first real money deposit?

This question requires a tad more thought than you first think. If you can, try to get the most out of your original 100% deposit bonus at most of the major sites. Don't do what I did the first time and deposit just $10 on Full Tilt and then later on re-deposit several times. I regretted never depositing more and doubling my money after I played recreationally for ages.

Whatever you're willing to lose is a good amount but I'd try and get the most of the bonus.

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09-19-2010 , 02:42 AM

#5261

JustinJude

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,436

When you post what you think are perfectly good questions with converted HH and what you're thinking and nobody responds, is there anywhere else you can ask for advice about it?

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09-19-2010 , 04:27 AM

#5262

sheeprustler

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,291

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewLuckyLion

Hello!
Is there any place in the forum to place the information about the guy who cheated me in the deal of tournament final table's HU? I loose the HU and he send my share.
He promised to send the money and he didnt do it.
I know that i wont get my money, but wanted to alert others poker players.

Beats, brags and variance.

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09-19-2010 , 05:06 AM

#5263

sheeprustler

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,291

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Originally Posted by JustinJude

When you post what you think are perfectly good questions with converted HH and what you're thinking and nobody responds, is there anywhere else you can ask for advice about it?

Join a study group maybe?

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09-19-2010 , 09:51 AM

#5264

jambo10000

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 35

In the book, Kill Everyone, there are recommendations to push/fold at M of 7-8 or under. While I like the success that this level of aggression tends to generate, at medium to late stages of tournaments, the average stacks generally have an M of around 6-7 You are often at this point still pretty far from the bubble and it feels risky playing a push/fold game when your stack is average. As players are eliminated you can very quickly fall way below average, and clearly you need to be playing more hands, but is it right to be playing push / fold with an average stack as happens all the time when following Kill Everyone's recommended strategy?

Thanks

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09-19-2010 , 12:37 PM

#5265

Cry Me A River

Orange is the new Green

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,783

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Originally Posted by JustinJude

When you post what you think are perfectly good questions with converted HH and what you're thinking and nobody responds, is there anywhere else you can ask for advice about it?

Almost all your threads have at least a half dozen replies. They can't all be hundred page epics...

They're probably mostly simple questions that aren't interesting to most people so they got the obvious answer and that's it.

It would also help if you included the buy-in level in the subject. I used to be meticulous about fixing this in uFR but I've been pretty slack all summer.

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09-19-2010 , 01:28 PM

#5266

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 12,040

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Originally Posted by jambo10000

If it is correct to play push/fold at M=7, then part of your edge in a tournament comes from the weaker players who are not playing push/fold when their average-sized stack M=7. In the tournament I play regularly (in a B&M cardroom) only a small fraction of the players know to do this, and push/fold is amazingly effective.

The reason for playing push/fold when M=7 is that if you don't, if you open for a reasonable-size raise and get called, you are pot-tied on the flop. Your choices are between (a) folding, (b) shoving preflop, and (c) opening preflop and shoving any flop no matter what. The postflop shove is more likely to be called (if you are pot-tied then effectively your opponent is also), so (b) has the most fold equity.

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09-20-2010 , 02:35 PM

#5267

Special_Kay

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40

Hi guys,

Can someone tell me how many hands you'd need to play at a certain stake to determine whether you're a winner or loser at that level.

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09-20-2010 , 02:40 PM

#5268

BE-001

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 237

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Originally Posted by Special_Kay

Hi guys,

Can someone tell me how many hands you'd need to play at a certain stake to determine whether you're a winner or loser at that level.

50k to be sure

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My own question: I'm not really a big-laydown-type-of-guy, but I want to improve my skills

UTG openraised a 3rd of his stack, he had VPIP 10 and PFR 3 over a couple 100 hands. I'm on the button, have him covered and had JJ. I just folded.
Since no-one else called I'm kinda curious if I made the right fold?
Did I generally made the correct fold?
If yes/no, up to what hands should I call?

Thanks

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09-20-2010 , 02:52 PM

#5269

shane5495

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,906

How big was his stack?

I would probably fold as well but i'm a paranoid nit so take it fwiw.

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09-20-2010 , 02:57 PM

#5270

BE-001

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 237

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane5495

How big was his stack?

I would probably fold as well but i'm a paranoid nit so take it fwiw.

Hi,

I dont remember exact stacks, but it was rather average to big (50-100BB).

If he had like only 20BB it would obv be no brainer afaiac

Kind regards

///EDIT: Found correct HH (not sure why he says Game 1111111 but whatever)

Code:

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
$2.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, September 20, 01:42:35 ET 2010
Table Mode (shallow) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $1.34 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 291
Seat 2: Hero ( $1.27 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 4.0, Hands: 10261
Seat 3: Player3 ( $0.72 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 15, 3B: 10, AF: 1.1, Hands: 100
Seat 4: Player4 ( $0.34 USD ) - VPIP: 43, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 7
Seat 5: Player5 ( $0.37 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 6, 3B: 2, AF: 2.5, Hands: 159
Seat 6: Player6 ( $0.81 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 3, 3B: 2, AF: 2.8, Hands: 251
Seat 7: Player7 ( $0.80 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 55
Seat 8: Player8 ( $0.76 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 1.3, Hands: 91
Seat 9: Player9 ( $0.96 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 1.0, Hands: 204
Player3 posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
Player4 posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  Js Jd ]
Player5 calls [$0.02 USD]
Player6 raises [$0.14 USD]
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Hero folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 wins $0.12 USD
Player6 wins $0.07 USD from main pot

Last edited by BE-001; 09-20-2010 at 03:03 PM.

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09-20-2010 , 03:10 PM

#5271

jambo10000

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 35

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Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Thanks Alan. I do find it very effective and I appreciate your analysis which confirms my actions are correct. It just seems strange to be risking my tournament life with an average stack.

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09-20-2010 , 04:42 PM

#5272

Cry Me A River

Orange is the new Green

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,783

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo10000

It just seems strange to be risking my tournament life with an average stack.

The term "average stack" is mostly irrelevant and often highly misleading (in large MTTs the presence of big stacks will often skew the average stack size considerably upwards).