Played terribly for the start of this month.
Also ran bad, but that's not an excuse. Played like a donk, deserve the treatment I've gotten. -7BI, bringing my bankroll to the lowest it's been in in about a month.

Anyone else read Ryan Fee's 6max guide? What's your thoughts?

@oly
Yeah your cbet is definitely too high in that sample. Try looking for spots to check back when you have hands more towards the bottom of your value range against players who fold a lot to cbets.

River call efficiency is really low. I had a the same problem(still do somewhat but its getting better, was around 1.1 now climbing up to 1.3ish). The way to fix it is to just stop bluff catching except in perfect situations(all draws bricked and you have TPTK). Also with hands like TPGK where you want two bets going in try checking the turn back on dryish boards vs aggros(eg AT on A72). They will bet any floats and worse Ax more often that they will call with them.

I probably should have asked for all your stats so we would have a bit more context so if you want post them all and il have a look.(main ones that im looking for are vpip/pfr, all aggression fold to cbet by each street, raise cbet by each street)

I see what your saying but there is a difference between saying 25.6% WTSD and 53.4% W$SD is optimal and saying it should be between this range. If your stats are outside the range given it may be optimal but most likely there will be room for improvement.

So in your case your not going to showdown very often and when you do your winning a very high percentage of the time. What that can mean is your playing pretty tight on later streets(.ie giving people to much credit). Your stats are the complete opposite of oly's lol. It hard to say without any further info though.

Yes, a while ago.
My feelings were it's quite advanced for micros.
I got the feeling a lot of his moves wouldn't work against the villains I play against because they aren't thinking of strength of ranges, etc. they are just looking at their hands and if they want to play them they will play them.

But, I am going to read it again.

You're playing 25NL. Anyone good enough to beat the stake is good enough to exploit you if you only open-limp pairs.

yeah definitely. If someone is really tight its pretty easy to go to showdown a lot and win.

@ stude,
h1: meh going to find it hard to fold vs a short stacker when we check, but don't mind a fold OTT if he is passive.
h2:cold 4bet or fold pre. CCing 3bets OOP is a losing play with almost everything unless you have a good reason too.
h3: might look to donk flop since he is a fish.

Thanks gamma.
I feel h1 I would cbet most of the time, but vs. a shortstacker I wasn't sure.
h2 again I was unsure what to do preflop so thanks for that. I can't see him shoving AK on this flop is good, but whatever - highish pairs are pretty likely for me.

I got the same sort of feel from it, Studebaker. Makes sense since Fees is mostly active in the higher limits and all. I'd love to get around to finishing Crushing the Micros but it's a HUGE book, and I'm a little bit too lazy.

Thanks for the advice so far. I agree that my cbet is too high. I kind of went into the games as a beginner after reading some strategy with the mentality of "Wow, if I bet even when I don't have a hand I can win pots!" Kind of caused me to have a cbet% of 100%.

Anyway, I'll post some more stats...

VPIP: 27.6 (UTG: 17.9, MP: 25.0, CO: 30.0, BTN: 42.5, SB: 23.6, BB: 23.5).
PFR: 22.1.
3bet: 7.60. I've wanted to raise this a bit, but feel it's not too worth it at the microstakes.
vs. 3bet Call%: 59.5%. It's too high so I'm working on fixing that
4bet Range: 3.06
WTSD%: 31.4
W$SD%: 47.0
W$WSF: 46.1%
Agg: 2.44

You already know my flop and turn Agg%, and my Flop Cbet%.

Flop Cbet success%: 47.8
Turn cbet%: 58.0
Fold to Cbet: 50.8
Flop vs. Raise fold%: 40


Preflop Positional awareness: 3.17 (Is this alright?)

Can't find too many other stats since I'm currently using a trial of HEM2 and still getting used to the software.

Things I noted: I'm generally cbetting 65 - 80% of the time vs. 1 player, and have a success rate of 50.4%. This drops drastically against two players though at 40.1%, despite me tightening up my cbetting range and doing it less than 50% of the time in the majority of cases.

I play about a 15/12 in FR. That's on the looser spectrum of tight-aggressive I suppose

Thats the thing, I'm not sure if people @ 25nl are adjusting by bluffing enough for me to call more in marginal spots. I suppose that would depend on how aggressive people are.

But I should def try to get to some of my marginal hands to SD

I'm 15/12 in FR, so I suppose I'm on the looser end of the "tight-aggressive" spectrum.

As for more info...
I tend to fold My top pair, weakish kicker hands( especially OOP) when nits/ tags double barrel
for example, if we're 9 handed on a FR table, and a player with a UTG percentage of like 9 percent( 22+, AJo+, AJs+) raises UTG.
His cbet is like 70% and his turn CB is like 50%.
Then I cold call with AQs from the CO.
the flop comes A5T( pot $1.50). Let's say he c bets like 70% of pot, I call because I suspect he would be cbetting his Ax hands, and nutty TT, 55 hands to build a pot. Also, he has some bluffy, baby pairs and 77 in his CB range. I suspect he would x/ back KK,QQ,JJ,99.88 because the A scares him. I'm ahead of that range so I call.
Lets say if the turn is J(pot $3.60) and he bets fairly large, like 80% pot. Now I have a problem. The pot has ballooned to 6.48, and if I call the $2.88 on the turn the pot is going to be $9.36, and I'm going to have 20.32 left. I don't know if he's even double barreling with AQ in this spot, especially if the flush card comes in. I'm behind his betting range here IMO, unless he has some random bluffs here( like inadvertantly turning a hand like KK into a bluff), which I don't know if he does. Should I be calling in this marginal spots like this hoping to see SD?

Alot of times I just fold this hand, but its twice as worse when a fish cold calls the UTG raise. Now if I over call, the pots going to be even bigger if he double barrels, . I guess maybe I should be thinking about 3B isolating the fish and turning my hand into a bluff vs the TAG that raised UTG so I avoid situations like because I have a hand I NEED to be playing vs the fish

I'm going to dig through my PT4 database and see if I can find any examples of cold calling raises with hands like AQs,AJs, AQo, AJo. I tend to fold these hands unless a fish cold calls the UTG raise.

Also, other examples of TP hands that I fold on the turn/river.

We have all been there Its kind of like a balancing act. We first all cbet when we have a decent hand so like 30%, then we realise we can autoprofit so cbet like 90%, then realise we are cbeting too much ect ect until we reach a near optimal for our game.

My first impression is your probably playing too loose. When you have a really wide range preflop getting to showdown and winning is going to be a really difficult challenge. So if you tightened up a decent amount your showdown stats would show an immediate improvement. You should be playing really loose when it is the most Ev strategy and I don't think that's going to be the case at small or micro stakes. You make money at the micros by value betting since people don't fold, not by playing superlag and getting everyone to fold better hands.

your 3bet looks fine. Just once your 3betting for the correct reasons(as a bluff vs the right opponents, for thin val vs other ect ect).

Like you said your calling 3bets far to much. Probably about twice the frequency you should be lol. Thats going to contribute a hell of a lot to your showdown stats.

Positionally you look fine. Just need to tone it down slightly all round.

Your turn cbet seems good but if your turn cbet success is low I might slightly lower it down(anything blow 42% is apparently low) but not much to worry about.

@ ugthemc il reply to you later on when I get home.

3 times today

OT: 100k hands this month 9-12 tabling FR, take coaching sessions, quit zoom, table select.

7-2 promo?

Like the similar one they did a few months ago (can't remember the hands).
Win with 72s, Boom it, get some multiple of the BB added to your account.

H1: Seems pretty standard to give up OTR? Couldn't really get a worse card to bluff shove.


H2: Bit thin OTR vs a non full stack?

Yes, but I'm shoving vs a good reg.

Shoving which hand, 1 or 2 ?

From what I remember 15/12 is not far off what I used to play but with regards to specific advice its difficult since I haven't played or studied FR in a long time.

What I can say is you need to find the situations where you think its a marginal fold and then make it a call(but loosen up slowly). Maybe not so much vs tight tags UTG but looser tags or lags when your both playing in LP since ranges will be wider and weaker. You also want to make sure your IP when planning on making marginal calls cause it will make all your decisions much easier.

In the example you gave I agree that calling is uncomfortable but if we had the Qc i'm much happier calling since we have so much more equity.

Like your saying isoing fish is very important. In the example you have where a fish CC an EP raise you can squeeze AQ/AJ as a bluff vs the EP raiser and for value vs the fish. But the goal you should have is to play as many pots with fish as possible, be it from CCing or 3betting. You have to make a decision on which you think is higher Ev. Good hands to turn into bluffs vs the tags are big unsuited that do we against the fish and have blockers vs the tag. The suited cards you can just call because of the implied odds we have vs the tight range of the tag and the fish.

I'd imagine you river call efficiency is quite high(if it is please give me a few tips ) which is a good thing but its a side effect of not calling very often on later streets. So as you loosen up don't worry if it drops off slightly.

Don't think an RCE of higher than about 1.5 is good.

Mpethybridge said to me when I got coaching off him that RCE of up to and around 1.8 is really good. I'd be happy with around 1.5 though.

1.8 seems nitty to me. Let's remember a GTO strat will converge to 1 vs other GTO players.

I thought when I researched what that stat meant, that the closer to 1 the better?

1 means you break even on river calls. Higher than 1 is ideal, it means you're exploiting people by folding when you're beat and calling when you're ahead, too high means you're folding too much, too low means you're calling too much.

anyone know if you can refund the punta cana satty ticket from beast promo for tourney bucks?

First of all any actual proof for that statement? On the assumption that I think you're making that GTO breaks even against GTO so therefore RCE = 1 (which I think is a pretty big assumption that may seem inituative but isn't necessarily so) then as soon as we start factor in rake we have a RCE <1

Second of all RCE is a stat that depends on so many different factors in your game that by itself it's pretty meaningless. I've heard from good players that you want it as close to 1 as possible so you're squeezing every bit of value out of your hands and I've heard that you want it around 1.8 too.

In reality if any of us have a RCE of 1 it probably means that we are calling far too much and if we have a RCE of 1.8 it probably means we aren't calling enough.

We also have to factor in that those figures are banded around for tougher games where games are quite reg infested. The biggest leaks at whatever stake we are talking about would also surely have an effect on our RCE.

I'm not sure that's true.

Thinking about it a GTO player would have a RCE of 1 against another GTO player with his bluff catchers(because GTO makes bluff catching 0 EV). But a percentage of the time GTO player will have hands that can call the river(but can't raise) that beats hands that are both value betting and bluffing which I think will lead to a higher RCE. Just spit balling here though. Could all be a load of BS.

Funny, never thought of having a high RCE as being nitty lol, kinda true to some extent, or could be just really good hand reading on top of a solid game.