adjusting from 6 max to 5 max NLH cash. any thoughts

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what tools do you use? poker edge? enlighten us mortals

Dear ladies and gentleman.

I am looking for a help in starting hand ranking.

I have studied pokerstove.
I have studied Skalansky-Chubkov chart.

I want to go deeper.
I am comftable with math and command line interfaces.

I want to focus more on the development of the hand and less in the all-in ev.

Software to calculate propabilites on each street would be most helpfull. (Now I would use spreadsheet, paper & pencil.. this is bit imidating)

Any pointers to previous studies/ software would be helpfull.

I've been playing live cash and tourney poker pretty successfully for a few years now, and have even had a good run or two online and am up lifetime, but it has recently come to my attention that I am pretty much out of my league in most online cash games. I'm not exactly a beginner, and had success in short runs on the 3/6 and 5/10nl fr games on FT, but I feel the need to go "back to school" to really learn online poker as a semi different game than live poker instead of merely playing a more aggro version of my live game. Any suggestions on where to begin?

It stands for frequent player points, and on poker stars this is massive as you can't get rake back but instead you get points to be used to ether buy goodies or enter torneys ect. they can also be exchanged for cash lump sums but only when you reach certain bench marks. That said poker stars has a system where the more vpp points (which determin what level of vip you are) the more fpp's you earn a for every dollar of rake that you pay for that month the more you can earn the next month once you hit a set number of vpp's then for the rest of that month and for all of next month you you will earn the standard number of fpp's multiplied by what ever the number is for the differant levels. Bronze 1
Silver 1.5
Gold 2
Platinum 2.5. I think that's right platinum maybe 3.

so basicly if you and i enter the same sng (sit and go) and your bronze stautus and im gold then i will earn double the number of fpp then you do.
hope this helps.

How do you play Ace-rags, especially in mid-position? This is assuming you're not OOP...

Should you even bother with them unless you raise-raise them all the time?

You don't.

even if you possibly want to play a suited/wheel, etc.?

Everything is situational in poker. While it is not always wrong to play a weak ace, it can be dangerous. Say you hit an ace on the flop, you bet, and two or three people call. A lot of people like to play any ace, so you could be sitting there with A3s and be dominated.

Another problem is that your straight can only go one direction. Back to your A3--three of the cards on the board need to be exactly 542, and the odds on that aren't very good.

As for chasing the flush, playing Ax or Kx for that purpose is called playing a speculative hand. Also in the speculative hand category are small pocket pairs and small-or-medium suited connecters.

When you play A3, 87, or 33 preflop, you need to realize that most of the time you aren't going to make a flush, a straight, or a set.

So, to make speculative plays pay off, you need to be getting good pot odds and/or good implied odds. When you hit your big hand (set or better), you need to make up for all the money you lost when you didn't hit.

Pot odds are simple. That basically means that you want a bunch of limpers, so that when you make your set, there will be people around to pay you off--again, you need to make up for money lost when you missed with one of those hands.

Implied odds means that you are going to get paid off big if you hit. Taking a bunch or people with you to the river (pot odds) is one way to do that. Another way is when one or more players has a made hand (lets say made two pair on the flop), so they will either be betting, or call when you bet.

It comes down to these questions like these:

1. Is it likely that I can get this hand in cheaply, without a raise, to see if I can hit the flop?

2. Am I going to get pot odds to play this hand, that is, are there several limpers alreay in the pot? Or at least, if I'm not in late position, is this a table with a lot of limping and very little raising?

3. If I'm not getting pot odds to play this hand, is it likely that one or more players will pay me off big at showdown?

If you want numbers, your equity with A3s against 9 random hands is about 14%, so the odds against you winning with your weak ace are 7:1. So you need to make big money when you hit, to make up for your losses the 6 times you miss.

^ good stuff. Thanks!

I'm reading the archives of the "poo-bahs" and articles, and I stumble upon this excerpt from adanthar's WSOP "Updated satellite strategy post" in 06 about MTTs on various sites.

"The final hand of the sat went like this: a medium to large stack raised 4x to 12K in EP. Another medium to large, but somewhat smaller stack called the raise in MP. The SB, with ~22K total (he would have been about 20'th of 26) thought and pushed in with kings, EP instafolded, and MP thought forever and called with jacks (losing would have put him about 20th as well), then sucked out. Hilariously, every single decision made by all 3 players in the hand - in a 650 dollar buyin - was mildly to extremely wrong and, in at least one case, a $3000+ mistake. Think about that and then figure out how profitable these things are compared to a DSO, especially if you're the short stack watching this from the other table with ~10K chips."

Why would the SB be wrong with pushing KKs with his stack only 22K to a 24K pot? Is he not getting proper odds? Was it too strong? etc.

why do you say stick to cash over sng's/MTT's?..variance?

Its a satellite. Strategy is vastly different in satellites to normal tourneys. KK should have folded.

Would be nice if he said how many got paid..if top 25 got paid then of course fold the kings.

I'm pretty sure i played you in some plo 1/2 heads up. Was pretty fun name letsgetdrunk on full tilt. You took me for like 200-300. Just another man i donate thousands to everyday.

How do you typically pick up that you're beat pre-flop with higher pockets?

Could you fold in this situation?


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $10.00
Hero (UTG): $16.36
UTG+1: $37.35
UTG+2: $25.50
MP1: $47.13
MP2: $5.35
CO: $25.37
BTN: $2.80
SB: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $1, UTG+1 raises to $3.35, 7 folds, Hero calls $2.35

Flop: ($7.05) J 5 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 raises to $16.05, Hero calls $10.01 all in

Turn: ($33.07) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($33.07) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $33.07
Hero shows Q Q
UTG+1 shows A A
Hero wins $31.42
(Rake: $1.65)

p.s. how do u hide the results on http://www.thehandconverter.com/?

I either can't post results, or it'll show it vs. having a "show results" button like others on the forum have.

Thanks!

I need help, i suck. =(

Sorry Doug, but I had to reply to this since it was bothering me.

1. play with a full stack (100bbs)
2. 4bet this pre. you are OOP and don't want to let him draw at an A or K for cheap.
3. You could never avoid this loss unless you had reads on villain that he was a huge nit and his 3bet meant the stone cold nuts or atleast KK. Then you could easily fold knowing you were beat bad.

You can play them in the CO and OTB. OTB you can open all of them. In the CO you can open all of them if you have a tight button who will prob fold. If the button is loose stick to A9o+ and A5s+.

Hi, I'm new to this forum although I've been lurking and reading for awhile. I recently came across this thread(great thread, BTW) and noticed that you offered to transfer someone's money on the first page. I've been wanting to do this for awhile now as I have around $50 on my FT account and they don't let you cash out unless you have $100. I like Stars a lot better. Anyways I don't really know who to trust on this forum but you seem pretty trustworthy from what I've read so far. Is there anyway you could please do me a favor and transfer the money for me? I'd really appreciate it.

EDIT: Just noticed that WCGRider hasn't posted in this thread for awhile. I'm going to PM him but if there are any other regs that'd be willing to help me out that'd be great too.

Try here

Alright, cool. Thanks for the link.

playign 24 tables at once, do you ever miss hands because they are flying by so fast? easier with 1 monitor or two?

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