Above the graph there's a drop down menu labeled Display: change it from Money Won for Hands Played to Money Won (Showdown and Non-Showdown) for Hands Played.

thx cruzer wow that was embarrassing

I've done dumber stuff than that, don't sweat it.

Dear WCG,

if you 3bet JJ in position and get called and lead into on an AQx flop for 11.5 into 18.5 and the guy has like 36 left would you ever shove thinking that if he liked his hand he'd check and get at least a c-bet out of me?

play good

Micro players often limp too much, play too much out of the blinds, and dont open up enough in late position. Make sure you watchout for those things.

no idea =p.

not sure i totally understand but i would just b/f tbh.

One question about the b/f line.. do we prefer to c/f if we're OOP? Also, what if villian just calls, then what do we do the next street? Just b/f all 3 streets? Slowplayers would make us lose a lot of money this way, wouldn't they?

if your going just fold hands with marginal value you need to just b/f them on boards that are good to cbet.

WCG:

i am trying to get my hem hud working correctly as far as having the numbers correspond to color ranges. i only use vpip, pfr, aggression factor and hands played.

is this the right place to ask for help ??

Try Software forums.

There's a HEM thread. A lot of your questions will probably be answered in their faq as well.

i got it figured out thanks for the reply.

If I may: for every important thing you read in a book, make a note. You can use Google Notes to keep online (i.e. available) and tidy. This way, you a) remember it better b) can look at it later when you forget c) improve your notes when you re-read the book

HTH.

Wouldn't thinness depend on your opponent and the size of the pot?

For example, if there's 10BB in the pot and I am playing against a super loose dude, I probably could bte up to what, 3-5BB and still call it a value bet, whereas if I am playing against a nit I would maybe try 1-2BB?

No, the word "thin" in this context refers to the strength of your hand against what you perceive to be you're opponent's range. In other words, you don't have it crushed, but you have enough equity that you can make a "thin" value bet.

I've always interpereted a thin vbet as being slightly ahead

You're saying the same thing, just in a slightly different way. If you have enough equity against his range to bet, as he was saying, then you are slightly ahead.

sorry I didn't make it more clear, he's leading into me so I can't b/f. here's the hand in question:

$50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $61.75
CO: $47.50
Hero (BTN): $62.30
SB: $94.15
BB: $27.90
UTG: $55.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, CO calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.75, 3 folds, CO calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) Q A 8 (2 players)
CO bets $11.50, Hero raises to $54.55

just wondering if this is a terrible play. I figured his lead there is weak.

dewd just fold iit =/.

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No expert here, so lots of salt needed :-)

Unless you have some tell on him that he is bluffing or that you can bluff him, I'd fold it every time. 2 overcards on the board would be too much for me.

Now his pre-flop betting can mean either that a) he's loose and has A +WK or a small pair? b) he's tight and has a good hand, but then why would he only call unless he's surrounded by LAGs in which case c) he's setting up a trap.

Post-flop, notice that from his point of view, you're the aggressor but he's still betting 2x his call which is a nice bet (BTW, if BB is 0.5$, his "weak" lead is still 23BB = 2/3 pot)

On your play: don't you think your bet looks like a bluff with such a high bet? Can't be a value bet or a "normal" bet, right?

How did the hand play out?

In which situations should you limp in nlhe?