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Betfair No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: t1283.75 M = 28.53
Hero (BB): t716.25 M = 15.92

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with J Q
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, BTN/SB raises to t1283.75, Hero calls t536.25 all in

Flop: (t1432.5) 8 K 5

Turn: (t1432.5) 2

River: (t1432.5) 3

Final Pot: t1432.5
BTN/SB shows 7 J
Hero shows J Q
Hero wins t1432.50



Betfair No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t567.50 M = 12.61
Hero (BTN/SB): t1432.50 M = 31.83

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 5 4
Hero raises to t67.5, BB calls t37.5

Flop: (t135) 7 4 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t90.00, BB calls t90

Turn: (t315) 3 (2 players)
BB bets t410.00, Hero calls t410

River: (t1135) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: t1135
BB shows 9 T
Hero shows 5 4
Hero wins t1135.00

jimbo, i think crazy fool is a closet red really.

No doubt imo.

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Friend of mine asked me about this hand last night, when I get into these situations myself I tend to overlook things and dismiss the hand as standard or whatever.

The btn is a 'huge' winner at these stakes, playing 'uber aggressive'. We agreed we 4bet here almost every time, but couldn't agree on an amount. The play at these levels, and my friends analysis was wayy above me so I was interested to hear some of your thoughts?

Btw when he told me about this hand he couldn't remember all of the details and he said it was 50/100 w/9k stacks. So if the obvious play for the hand below is shove, what do we do if its 50/100?


Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds + t20 - 9 players
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UTG+1: t7461 M = 18.42
UTG+2: t2748 M = 6.79
MP1: t2230 M = 5.51
MP2: t1657 M = 4.09
Hero (CO): t11280 M = 27.85
BTN: t9566 M = 23.62
SB: t2535 M = 6.26
BB: t2958 M = 7.30
UTG: t4725 M = 11.67

Pre Flop: (t405) Hero is CO with Q Q
5 folds, Hero raises to t375, BTN raises to t1047, 2 folds Hero???


I apologise for strat in nc, for your time...

http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com...g-t100206.html

loooool guy buys into a 10 dollar 45 man sng, and somehow ends up making a deal so that he only ends up winning 3.50

I'd pop it to about 3500, mainly based on the fact you have a premium hand, and he's playing very aggressive. If he calls, he's gonna have a hand, but he's most likely to fold, and make you a reasonable profit. If you had ACE ACE, i'd be trying to lay a trap tho...

*drools*

Did someone mention cards?

she could be my assistant if she wants...

Leo, easy 4-bet, even vs tight players. I still get it in at 50/100.

leo is that from an mtt/sng/what?
also heros image plz, do they have a lot of history?

info on btns 3b range would be good too. im assuming its basically nuts/air. if they are 3b stuff like AJ/55 etc instead of random suited cards then i would ship and hope they call it off light.

imo 4b to 21-2200 can look stronger to ppl than shipping since it looks like you cant really fold, but im assuming btn has nuts/air so we need to give them a chance to spazz ship.

at 50/100, 4b is clearly better since it doesnt look as strong deeper becauss you def arent committed.

the question is how big to 4b

3500 sucks since you are never folding after making it that big and you likely ship 77 or w/e so your range is nutted and they never ship light.

Yea I'm 4betting pretty much everytime. Most of the discussion was about the amount, and why that amount would be correct etc.

My friend said the btn is a well known player who is hyper aggressive, so I assumed he could be 3betting atc in this spot? I also assumed he is never flatting when we 4bet?

I would likely just shove, but my friend didn't seem too keen on that option and he is alot better than me so maybe a smaller 4bet would be best, I just don't know

Any idea how btn might view your friend? This would be good info to know...

From what you've given... I think I'm popping it to 2250-2400ish. If btn is known as is laggy, he could def be 3b pretty wide here over your friends CO raise.

at 75/150 since it is pretty close:
depending on if it is going to be necessary for the future this is a good time to ship to balance and protect your vulnerable hands that you want to 4b ship to prevent getting it in AT vs 22 or 66 vs 97s.

It's from an MTT.

He said btn is a young german pro who is uber aggressive and a huge winner. He didn't mention any history but hero is a decent winner at this level and villain likely knows this so probably doesn't see hero as dead money or fish etc. He didn't give any stats from hud or anything unfortunately.

He mentioned 4betting to 2300ish but I thought that would look too strong? I thought shoving could look like 99 or AK so villain could call it off with TT-JJ?

imo btns 3b range is likely hands that they are happily getting it in with (JJ+/AQ+ or w/e, doesnt really matter) plus a ton of suited crap. so it doesnt really matter what we do vs their value range (except something like 4b to 3500) and we can maximise profit by getting them to go all in with XXs as often as possible. a small (non-committing) 4b does this the best (it lets them bluff ship).

He will be getting in 10-JJ no matter what play you make. I agree w/ David's sizing of the 4-bet since we are less than 100bb deep. By shoving you eliminate his bluffing range and will only be called by his value range, but if you 4-bet you give him a chance to bluff. This was already said by David, but whatever.