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heh, I came here to rant and then everybody is topping each other in crappiness. (LC/NC) heh, I came here to rant and then everybody is topping each other in crappiness. (LC/NC)

10-11-2010 , 05:51 PM
Ok Guys,

Here is the vid: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4O33YK7E

I'm not exactly talking much on this, but I think I explained most of the actions that needed it. The begining after I explained my HUD is waiting for the BB, so you might want to skip that bit.

The HUD is:

VPIP,PFR,Afq,(HANDS)
3Bet PF, C-Bet Flop, Fold to C-Bet Flop


In the spoiler below is the graph of the session, it's only 101 hands, but it might be helpful. I did seem to run rather well, so this may not be the best session for people to look at, but it's the one I got.

Thank you to anyone who looks at this, and/or comments. I appreciate it.

Spoiler:
10-11-2010 , 06:10 PM
Temporarily Unavailable Will look at it tonight though.
10-11-2010 , 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Temporarily Unavailable Will look at it tonight though.
Take your time, you're doing me a big favour. And I don't want to get embaressed just yet anyway
10-11-2010 , 07:12 PM
yay.

120 bb/100 .... wat u want advice about ...?
10-11-2010 , 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
yay.

120 bb/100 .... wat u want advice about ...?
How to keep doing it?

Seriously, I'm asking about my play, not the results, I might have been on a bit of a heater...
10-11-2010 , 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblebee99
Here are my solid, conscise thoughts on 2NL:
I personally prefer playing smaller pairs. Big pairs can be good but you have to be a bit more cautious with them.
10-11-2010 , 08:44 PM
You sound like you should do voice overs for documentaries

A10 hand around the 8min mark: You are almost always ahead here. I might check and let the other two spazz and put themselves in. After the flop, the other guy has 13bbs behind and is never folding, so get him in... it looked like you wanted to check behind on the river... missing value there.

K8 in the cutoff with a limper... I probably go ahead and raise there.. but at 2nl, folding is fine too.

J4 at 14:50ish.... don't like completing at all since you are so often going to be check folding. If you feel you should fire turn, then you should fire the river too.. but I like just checking.

AQ at 16:50.. I cbet that flop.

49o at 18:30ish... raise or fold.. I prefer a fold. You just aren't going to flop well enough often enough to make it worth it.

The two hands at 21:00ish... reverse what you do on each flops... bet the A10, check the Q9.

J8s at 22:40... I like a raise there. Same with the J9s on the other table. The J8.. easy bet on the river to get value from some 3s.. 10s and 9s.

JJ at 26:50... raise more... with a raise and 3 callers I'd make it something like .40

33 at 28:15.. I like raising here. An idea I was given by verneer at these games where people like to call a lot is to just raise to like .06 or .08 with a small pp in lp. This serves several purposes 1. Once in awhile everyone just folds. 2. You are less likely to get reraised by a weaker hand trying to isolate limpers. 3. If you hit your set, you've already built yourself a nice little pot... and people are more likely to fight for pots when they've put a bit more money into them.

69s at 30ish.. 3bet or fold.

J8o at 32... raise or fold.

K5o at 34ish... don't complete there.

94o at 34:40... Raise or fold there... you don't want to be playing oop in that hand.

K8o at 35ish... raise that on the button in an unopened pot.


That's about all I have time for now... I'll finish the rest up in the morning
10-11-2010 , 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
You sound like you should do voice overs for documentaries
At initial glance, looks like lots of good info there, so ;DR. Will DL Hippy's vid and see what I think and compare to what you came up with ...
10-11-2010 , 10:01 PM
heh, I guess I just had the cheapest run bad. Entered a €2.5 rebuy because I was bored. Guy to my left was a complete maniac and shoved every hand. I managed to drop 18 BI before the rebuy period ended which he then redistributed to the rest of the table. I guys I was about 26 BI below ev for that hour
10-11-2010 , 11:28 PM
Brett Favre is an asshoole



86 yrd run back !!!

I HATE ****ING BRETT ****ING FARVRE ****ER


Edit: ****er 2pts Ha!!!

Last edited by obviously.bogus; 10-11-2010 at 11:45 PM.
10-11-2010 , 11:59 PM
Suck it, brett favrehole


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
\



Wiped the smirk off Mr Most Fumbles Ever face



Ha !!!!! Sack !!!




2 min warning ...


What ever happens here did I mention that I ****ing hake brett ****ing f****vre




Inter****ingception !!!!!


SUCK ON THAT FAVRE !!!!!!!!!!



HA !!!!!!!!!!!

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Last edited by obviously.bogus; 10-12-2010 at 12:27 AM.
10-12-2010 , 12:36 AM
Was hoping for 3 INT, 5 sacks and Farvehole hobling off in the 4th 1/4

2 lost fumbles + 1 INT, 4 sacks and nursing his elbow, + the win is pretty damn close


J E T S Jets Jets Jets .....


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Last edited by obviously.bogus; 10-12-2010 at 12:45 AM. Reason: did I mention I don't like mr fravre (and I don't even give a crap about the "sexting" "scandal")
10-12-2010 , 01:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblebee99
Here are my solid, conscise thoughts on 2NL:
Spoiler:

Open, shove all in, fist pump.
10-12-2010 , 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinJude
Open, shove all in, fist pump.
Hot.

Last edited by whydowe_fall; 10-12-2010 at 01:48 AM. Reason: At 2NL, of course.
10-12-2010 , 02:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinJude
Open, shove all in, fist pump.
wp sir
10-12-2010 , 06:18 AM
Firstly, thanks for looking at this ICE. I'll give you a little run down on what I was thinking at the time:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
You sound like you should do voice overs for documentaries

A10 hand around the 8min mark: You are almost always ahead here. I might check and let the other two spazz and put themselves in. After the flop, the other guy has 13bbs behind and is never folding, so get him in... it looked like you wanted to check behind on the river... missing value there.
The villian was new to the table (only 9 hands, and hadn't been really spazzing), and he had called a raise, and a re-raise from the BB. He then calls a raise and shove OOP, I have 1 pair, and then the board pairs. I take the free card, I agreed, I probably should have shoved, but on the river, the Str8 has got there as well, and i still only have TPTK. Maybe I gave too much credit to the villain, but I know I wouldn't have called a raise and an all in with bottom pair and a K high FD.

Quote:
K8 in the cutoff with a limper... I probably go ahead and raise there.. but at 2nl, folding is fine too.
I was probably considering I was playing a few too many hands at that point.

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J4 at 14:50ish.... don't like completing at all since you are so often going to be check folding. If you feel you should fire turn, then you should fire the river too.. but I like just checking.
Fair enough, in the cold light of day, i concur.

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AQ at 16:50.. I cbet that flop.
Again, fair enough. I was concentrating too much on the other table tbh. The re-raise was unexpected.

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49o at 18:30ish... raise or fold.. I prefer a fold. You just aren't going to flop well enough often enough to make it worth it.
fair enough. Worked out well for me this time tho

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The two hands at 21:00ish... reverse what you do on each flops... bet the A10, check the Q9.
Yep, i concur. The bet on the Q9 was because he seemed to be a spewtard.

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J8s at 22:40... I like a raise there. Same with the J9s on the other table. The J8.. easy bet on the river to get value from some 3s.. 10s and 9s.
Yep, I've gone a little passive in my PR play, but only because my previous game was far too agressive.

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JJ at 26:50... raise more... with a raise and 3 callers I'd make it something like .40
Ok, see your point, something I'll file away to evaluate later.

Quote:
33 at 28:15.. I like raising here. An idea I was given by verneer at these games where people like to call a lot is to just raise to like .06 or .08 with a small pp in lp. This serves several purposes 1. Once in awhile everyone just folds. 2. You are less likely to get reraised by a weaker hand trying to isolate limpers. 3. If you hit your set, you've already built yourself a nice little pot... and people are more likely to fight for pots when they've put a bit more money into them.
Something to think about. I'll probably mix it up a bit, but my 1st thought is that with low PP, raising would be -ev. I'd have raised with 55+.

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69s at 30ish.. 3bet or fold.
Yep, too passive again. Felt this guys post flop play was a joke tho.

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J8o at 32... raise or fold.
Yep, too passive.

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K5o at 34ish... don't complete there.
yep, spewy

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94o at 34:40... Raise or fold there... you don't want to be playing oop in that hand.
thought was guy was a rock, and i'd bet on the flop regardless. .i take the point tho, I am too passive pre flop atm.

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K8o 35ish... raise that on the button in an unopened pot.
Fair enough, again too passive PF


Quote:
That's about all I have time for now... I'll finish the rest up in the morning
Thanks Ice, very helpful.

Last edited by Hippy80; 10-12-2010 at 06:37 AM.
10-12-2010 , 06:33 AM
Hippy / Ice

tl;dr

Got the vid will watch tonight. Haven't read these posts so I don't just end up +1ing what Ice has said !
10-12-2010 , 08:30 AM
My internet cap is nearly up so cant d/l it right now. Ice is solid anyway.
10-12-2010 , 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippy80
*words*
fwiw... I had a hard time seeing the hud on the video... so most of my thoughts are just what I would do readless. Obv. having a read changes things in some spots.

K7 at 37:15.. I don't like completing in the sb.

QK at 41:40.. raise preflop from the sb.

A2s at 41:40.. I might check behind on that flop because he's so short.

Q10s at 47ish.. I 3bet the flop and get it in. Also bet more on the flop to charge draws. If he had a draw, he's probably calling any bet to chase it.

AQ at 49ish.. I probably call the 50ish bb shove from some random 2nl player that just sat down.

A6 at 51... I raise to isolate the stupid player that sat down and posted utg.


It seems like your biggest problem is you aren't maximizing your bigger value hands.... followed by limping/completing with hands that you could easily raise with for value or with hands that don't flop well at all in multiway pots.
10-12-2010 , 02:23 PM
Thanks Ice,

Let me know if theres anything I can do for you.

So more PR raises from me, increase my bet sizes for value, 3 bet a bit more, and fold more of the dross.

High Stakes Poker, here I come!
10-12-2010 , 02:31 PM
after EPT london we have another truely epic final table appearance to sweat , this time by Beginners own Tboblp !

Jokerstars 2.20 mixed PLHE / PLO, almost 40 ( !!!!!!!!!!!! ) pokerstars maneyz for 1st , coming in 4 /9 , leaving behind 69 runners like its nothing. gogogo Bob, get that cheesburger !


10-12-2010 , 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
Suck it, brett favrehole


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
\



Wiped the smirk off Mr Most Fumbles Ever face



Ha !!!!! Sack !!!




2 min warning ...


What ever happens here did I mention that I ****ing hake brett ****ing f****vre




Inter****ingception !!!!!


SUCK ON THAT FAVRE !!!!!!!!!!



HA !!!!!!!!!!!

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may have had a bad game. but he is still the greatest of all time
10-12-2010 , 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trevorj
may have had a bad game. but he is still the greatest of all time
quoted for LIESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10-12-2010 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spliffstar
after EPT london we have another truely epic final table appearance to sweat , this time by Beginners own Tboblp !

Jokerstars 2.20 mixed PLHE / PLO, almost 40 ( !!!!!!!!!!!! ) pokerstars maneyz for 1st , coming in 4 /9 , leaving behind 69 runners like its nothing. gogogo Bob, get that cheesburger !


lolol HUD
10-12-2010 , 02:45 PM
sigh, gg bob :-(

      
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