You need big sample for it.
I found the stat here somewhere: http://www.pokertracker.com/custom/stats

I believe if he 5bet shove he has QQ+ and I'm only flip with QQ. So I'm underdog
Then what is the option against unknown? Stack off pre hoping he will fold? Calling 3bet with intention to fit or fold sounds bad. Maybe shove any flop?

If you were the squeezer there (the BTN), how would you play AK when facing a 4-bet?

Against unknown you just simply 4-bet/call for 100bb. Calling a big 3-bet OOP with off-suited hand, even AKo, can easily be -EV. We miss often, like 2/3 of the time, and the opponent is able to make better decisions in position. He also gets to realize his equity with his bluffs (56s). Not a good situation.
So even if our opponent was tight a player (we don't know yet), the EV of 4-bet/all-in is better than playing 3-bet pot OOP.

Try to do the math. If you 4-bet to 1.4$ and he shoves, what pot odds do you get for calling?

This is only speaking of squeeze spots. We could play AKo tighter when facing just a normal 3-bet, since our odds to call a shove are worse. For example: If MP would 3-bet our UTG open, then calling the 3-bet is the best play.

I think cbetting low pairs is bad really. Only 2 outs, no blockers. I just check fold them all since if I cbet with them I'm cbetting everything.

anyone have this problem where clicking feels weird. I been playing so much that I maybe developing some strain problems in my right hand

also haven't lifted in 10 days so that might also be the problem/part of it

finally got the lead now just gotta hold. (kinda facetious, I'm actually quite ahead since only 3/4 months count and I barely played in Feb.)

45.98

Started my own PG&C thread. All imputs on my plays are welcome. I will keep posting some hands here aswell.

Here it is: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post46623187

Thanks!

Yeah, sample is pretty tough to draw conclusions from, especially considering in a lot of hands you'll have a fish in the bb or whatever.

Is there anything we can do with missed AK in 4-bet pots other than xf?

h1: vs unknown reg. I think flatting is an option but I don't hate the easy line to 4-bet gii. Given positions I think his range is strong and he wouldn't flat a hand like AQ. Maybe TT-99 or something? Could be a slowplay with AA hoping that my 4-bet bluffs would pick up equity.

Microgaming - (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 104.3 BB (VPIP: 25.64, PFR: 21.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 84)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG: 25.3 BB (VPIP: 32.58, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 146)
Hero (MP): 273.24 BB
CO: 108.2 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.35, PFR: 16.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.53, Hands: 238)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 11.5 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, fold, BB calls 15.5 BB

Flop: (57.5 BB, 2 players) T 6 9
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 30.5 BB, fold



h2: Anon tables. With we would continue, so this has to be the bottom of our range. Just feels bad to give up

Microgaming - (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 116.04 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 448.44 BB
BB: 68.45 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 8.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 19 BB, SB calls 10.5 BB

Flop: (39 BB, 2 players) J 8 Q
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 21 BB, fold



h3: vs spewy fish, I don't know what to do. On the other hand he hasn't hit often. We're slightly deep so I wouldn't x/shove. Fish would call very wide so I don't know if that's a smart idea.
It could be just a spot where he has the positional advantage and we have to give up. But the J is good since we could improve to a gut-shot. So I think it's close between xc or xf. Vs fish we might even have implied odds if A/K hits.

Microgaming - (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.14, PFR: 20.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.74, Hands: 1,197)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.26, PFR: 21.25, 3Bet Preflop: 12.13, Hands: 2,087)
Hero (UTG): 133 BB
MP: 123.23 BB (VPIP: 28.92, PFR: 20.48, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 85)
CO: 128.5 BB (VPIP: 28.31, PFR: 21.08, 3Bet Preflop: 10.96, Hands: 168)
BTN: 158.4 BB (VPIP: 49.52, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 111)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, BTN calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (26.5 BB, 2 players) J 2 2
Hero checks, BTN bets 13 BB, fold

Call flop h3

you 'll have to 3x barrel me off that hand

Did villain play fine this hand?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 244.2 BB
SB: 97 BB (VPIP: 13.07, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 8.47, Hands: 178)
BB: 253.6 BB (VPIP: 19.66, PFR: 15.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 239)
UTG: 101.8 BB (VPIP: 12.11, PFR: 9.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 359)
UTG+1: 132.4 BB (VPIP: 9.91, PFR: 6.19, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 573)
MP: 337.6 BB (VPIP: 87.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: 139.6 BB (VPIP: 19.24, PFR: 11.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.89, Hands: 295)
MP+2: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 247 BB (VPIP: 14.66, PFR: 7.62, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 344)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) Q 3 7
SB bets 8.6 BB, Hero calls 8.6 BB

Turn: (36.2 BB, 2 players) 7
SB bets 16.2 BB, Hero calls 16.2 BB

River: (68.6 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 31 BB, Hero raises to 120 BB, SB calls 32.2 BB and is all-in



He blocks a ton , he also reps Qx , i think he played it perfectly right?

I don't like it. Yes he blocks alot but almost no villains are going to fold Qx here. He is also turning a hand that would make a good check call on the flop into a bluff. There are alot of better candidates for barreling off that has no SDV. Betting on a turn 7 is also bad as it changes nothing. Whats up with calling the river raise with A high?

awfully played by him, river call is lol

Honestly it might not be that bad in a vacuum. But think V shouldn't always turn AK into a bluff OTT. The turn card is just so good for your range that V should be checking quite a lot there. As if he bets this card too much I think you can start raising aggressively as the distribution of strong hands is changed a lot on this turn card, making the top part of your ranges quite

But if he decides to turn AK into a bluff OTT, firing river is good although i'm not quite sure why V isn't playing for stacks with his range on this scenario.

But when you raise the river, your range is pretty much 7x + QQ, and AK isn't that bad bluffcatcher as it doesn't really block any of your bluffs. Although if he has too much AK in his bbb-c range you might actually be able to raise some Qx for value lolz.


Just my thoughts, would love to hear feedback on my analysis.



edit: Actually river might not always be that easy 3rd barrel if we we decide to fire turn, as even though we'd always xf, the checks are still +EV.

What's with the call preflop?

in situations when its hard to block value range call with top of range not bottom

he was a wide 3-bettor , i think there is more value in calling and slowplaying , the villains at this limit 3-bet a lot but they arent balanced when it comes to 5-betting or calling 4-bets , also against guys like him im gonna call wider , hands like AJ KQ KJs etc , i can protect my calling range with KK postflop.


His call on the river was awfull yes , im talking about the bluff part.

Yeah true.

8.5% doesn't seem sufficiently wide we shouldn't be 4betting this.

I'd much rather flat with AA, much less chance we'll be outdrawn OTF.

Good players would raise sets OTF but I think he is capable of slowplaying sets even on a wet board. Not sure he would bet AK like that on the river and I do think he has all the KJ combos so river is fold I guess?

Hero (BB): 221.29 BB
UTG: 121.7 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 26)
CO: 205.85 BB (VPIP: 24.69, PFR: 18.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.84, Hands: 1,233)
BTN: 201.92 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.12, Hands: 81)
SB: 118.46 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 72)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) T Q 2
Hero bets 18.38 BB, BTN calls 18.38 BB

Turn: (61.25 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 30.63 BB, BTN calls 30.63 BB

River: (122.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 100 BB, fold

If it wasent multiway probably a good hand to cbet with all the backdoor draws. Im guessing cbetting into 2 other people here is spew. Just hate having to check fold vs this player as I know he just clicks the bet half pot button as soon as hes checked to.. but I really do suck at bluffcatching.

Hero (SB): 204.88 BB
BB: 125.69 BB (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 42)
UTG: 195.85 BB (VPIP: 24.71, PFR: 18.41, 3Bet Preflop: 3.78, Hands: 1,249)
CO: 254.36 BB (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 17.71, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 97)
BTN: 124.03 BB (VPIP: 42.53, PFR: 21.84, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 88)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, CO calls 12.5 BB, BTN calls 12.5 BB

Flop: (49 BB, 3 players) T 4 5
Hero checks, CO bets 27 BB, fold, fold

CO wins 47.78 BB

Interesting session to get back into the jist of things.



Last 200 hands are Zoom. Hoping I can take this bankroll to 5nl eventually.

hand 1: how can you even fold this? im not capable for such fold , if we fold this hand then why are we 3-betting? how do you plan to get value with AQ postflop? there are probably AT and QT on villains range , he may also pull a bluff with a busted flush draw , why do you totally ignore the equity you gain from his bluffs? do you think they never bluff?


hand 2: seems standar to me.

This is so wrong. No good player would ever raise a set here.

Also welcome back olybrahhh