Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
April Beginners' Bankroll Thread April Beginners' Bankroll Thread

04-02-2015 , 12:49 PM
Hand converter doesn't work. Call here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #35436148458: $50 Heads-Up Sit & Go (291573923), Table 1 - PL Omaha Hi - 30/60 - 11:49:09 ET - 2015/04/02
Seat 1: IronTamer (1,040)
Seat 2: torok01 (1,960)
IronTamer posts the small blind of 30
torok01 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IronTamer [5d Ad 6s Jh]
IronTamer raises to 120
torok01 raises to 360
IronTamer calls 240
*** FLOP *** [Kc 7d 8c] (Total Pot: 720, 2 Players)
torok01 bets 720
IronTamer?
04-02-2015 , 12:58 PM
Seems like a close spot. Wouldn't hate a fold, but call with T9xx, because we could be behind a wrap. Does that make sense?
Try to run some simulations.
04-02-2015 , 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
Let's say he is 3-betting JJ+. Then he has TT-55 in his range that beats you. That's 2.71% of the starting hands. Vs ½ pot he is going to call a wide range of overcards. So I would barrel again.
Fish will call BB with like +40% range. Unsure how much regs will call BB vs MP
That's true, I agree. I will have there 2nd nuts often so want have initiative, I couldn't handle river bet after turn check with 44, but let's change scenario a little bit. If I would have 88+ I would check the turn if I know that villain is capable to bluff. This is texture that he can't call 2 barrels on with unpaired hand. Maybe with Ax but I very doubt. With 88+ I feel comfortable and have a good bluff catcher. Imo there is no point to bet ott with 88+ if he will fold, better induce bluff, more value.
04-02-2015 , 01:22 PM
standard cooler?
I kinda stopped caring about these spots, will focus my attention on more important spots. I don't like to call raise on this board texture, think its too wet

Microgaming - €1 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €115.00 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): €128.83
BTN: €100.00 (VPIP: 28.41, PFR: 23.62, 3Bet Preflop: 9.92, Hands: 2,133)
SB: €88.22 (VPIP: 47.81, PFR: 30.49, 3Bet Preflop: 13.10, Hands: 443)

SB posts SB €0.50, BB posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €1.50) Hero has J Q

Hero raises to €2.50, fold, SB calls €2.00, fold

Flop: (€6.00, 2 players) J 8 Q
SB checks, Hero bets €4.00, SB raises to €12.00, Hero raises to €35.00, SB raises to €85.72 and is all-in, Hero calls €50.72

Turn: (€177.44, 2 players) 4

River: (€177.44, 2 players) T

Spoiler:
Hero shows J Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 66%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
SB shows 9 T (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
SB wins €174.44
04-02-2015 , 01:27 PM
On this board this might be standard stack off, especially against fishy player. On dry flop no way, imo. His 3bet is high so you probably didn't put him on JJ?
04-02-2015 , 01:36 PM
Yeah I stack vs this guy but against good players I flat the flop raise.
04-02-2015 , 02:16 PM
Call vs PSB?
I'm fine going broke here, it's just the bet sizing. I had no bet sizing reads, except one time he made weird river bluff with ½ pot sizing.
He was kind of crazy fish.

Microgaming - €1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €104.21 (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 33)
Hero (BB): €118.86
UTG: €101.50 (VPIP: 27.08, PFR: 20.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.56, Hands: 882)
UTG+1: €102.50 (VPIP: 16.06, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 1.42, Hands: 943)
MP: €113.93 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
CO: €27.50 (VPIP: 25.56, PFR: 22.10, 3Bet Preflop: 10.84, Hands: 456)
BTN: €135.67 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 6.82, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 177)

SB posts SB €0.50, Hero posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €1.50) Hero has K Q

UTG raises to €3.00, fold, MP calls €3.00, fold, fold, SB calls €2.50, Hero calls €2.00

Flop: (€12.00, 4 players) 4 Q 7
SB bets €1.00, Hero raises to €10.00, fold, fold, SB calls €9.00

Turn: (€32.00, 2 players) 7
SB bets €16.00, Hero calls €16.00

River: (€64.00, 2 players) J
SB bets €64.00, fold

Spoiler:
SB wins €125.00
04-02-2015 , 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
Seems like a close spot. Wouldn't hate a fold, but call with T9xx, because we could be behind a wrap. Does that make sense?
Try to run some simulations.
makes some sense, what do you mean by simulations? vs a set that doesn't have our bd's dominated we have 30% equity.

also lol this hand

Full Tilt Poker Game #35436466565: $100 Heads-Up Sit & Go (291569032), Table 1 - NL Hold'em - 20/40 - 13:32:20 ET - 2015/04/02
Seat 1: IronTamer (1,340)
Seat 2: KarskiJarski (1,660)
KarskiJarski posts the small blind of 20
IronTamer posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IronTamer [7s 5s]
KarskiJarski raises to 80
IronTamer calls 40
*** FLOP *** [4s 6d 3c] (Total Pot: 160, 2 Players)
IronTamer has 15 seconds left to act
IronTamer bets 95
KarskiJarski raises to 190
IronTamer has 15 seconds left to act
IronTamer raises to 380
KarskiJarski has 15 seconds left to act
KarskiJarski raises to 980
IronTamer raises to 1,260, and is all in
KarskiJarski has 15 seconds left to act
KarskiJarski calls 280
IronTamer shows [7s 5s]
KarskiJarski shows [Ks Ts]
*** TURN *** [4s 6d 3c] [8h] (Total Pot: 2,680, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** RIVER *** [4s 6d 3c 8h] [Kc] (Total Pot: 2,680, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
IronTamer shows a straight, Eight high
KarskiJarski shows a pair of Kings
IronTamer wins the pot (2,680) with a straight, Eight high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,680 | Rake 0
Board: [4s 6d 3c 8h Kc]
Seat 1: IronTamer (big blind) showed [7s 5s] and won (2,680) with a straight, Eight high
Seat 2: KarskiJarski (small blind) showed [Ks Ts] and lost with a pair of Kings
04-02-2015 , 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BitchiBee
makes some sense, what do you mean by simulations? vs a set that doesn't have our bd's dominated we have 30% equity.
Range analysis at propokertools. Your hand vs AAxx and so on. The syntax gets more complicated for wraps.

KarskiJarski that's a Finnish fish given screen name.
04-02-2015 , 03:37 PM
yeah hes sat me again right now, hes finish

I'll try the propokertools thing and look up the syntax things. thanks alot

edit. funny thing is karl times down on every decision even after hes commited whole stack for some reason
04-02-2015 , 06:09 PM
Just started my BR challenge. Hopefully, I can keep some sanity while playing a heavy dose of Bovada's Zone Poker

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...lenge-1521840/

We shall see!!

Muhuh-AHaHahAhAHA!?!?!
04-02-2015 , 08:58 PM
Alright. Let's see what we can do.

Current BR $40

Goal: (at least one?)
1) > $140 by end of the month;
2) win one MTT > 200 players

Challenge: solid attention to fewer tables (no more than two at a time). Less tilt

Rule: no more than 30 to 1 for BI. (ie drop under $30, nothing higher than $1 MTT or SNG)

Games to play: mostly SNG and MTT ($1, $3, $5..)

If only I could do $10/day profit.. (that's only one $3 SNG finish first) LOL

Last time I posted my goal a few months back, I met both (finished first place in MTT>200; forgot BR). Then played sloppy and dropped BR over 3 days from $200 to $30.

We'll see about this time. Good luck all!
04-02-2015 , 08:59 PM
Forgot to mention:
1) post at least three hands into discussion
2) post BR results per week
04-02-2015 , 11:39 PM
OK, after day1 BR=$49
1 $3 SNG 1st place
1 $3 SNG crash out
1 $2 MTT ITM $3.x (with 7BB left, my 77 UTG shove into AQ, lost)



Quote:
Originally Posted by suim
Alright. Let's see what we can do.

Current BR $40

Goal: (at least one?)
1) > $140 by end of the month;
2) win one MTT > 200 players

Challenge: solid attention to fewer tables (no more than two at a time). Less tilt

Rule: no more than 30 to 1 for BI. (ie drop under $30, nothing higher than $1 MTT or SNG)

Games to play: mostly SNG and MTT ($1, $3, $5..)

If only I could do $10/day profit.. (that's only one $3 SNG finish first) LOL

Last time I posted my goal a few months back, I met both (finished first place in MTT>200; forgot BR). Then played sloppy and dropped BR over 3 days from $200 to $30.

We'll see about this time. Good luck all!
04-03-2015 , 12:14 AM
One hand during MTT, from memory

Hero @ CO with 20BB
villain @ BB with 30BB
don't know much about villain (bovada)
mid-late of tourney, avg stack < 20bb

Hero open 3bb with TT
Villain called
flop K93 rainbow, villain bet 2/3, hero hesitated and called
turn Q, villain bet ~1/2, hero called
river 4, villain bet 1/3, hero?

Spoiler:
hero folded after long thinking. villain showed 9 4
my thinking was he probably called with Kx or paired hand that either got set or JJ+. My hesitation was a clue that I was afraid of the K. Maybe I should've minraised on flop?
I am trying to play the range but often times I tend to put heavier weight on a few hands or even one. I believe I was thinking he could very well have KQ or KJ.

Last edited by suim; 04-03-2015 at 12:31 AM.
04-03-2015 , 12:21 AM
min raising flop is really bad, just call down never fold
04-03-2015 , 12:31 AM
I dont think I can call river, either shove or fold. dont remember exactly but if I call, it'll leave like 4 bb or something like that behind
04-03-2015 , 05:26 AM
Nice bluff? Blocking AK and the flush draw completed which is a nice scared card.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 204.5 BB
SB: 387.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 18.46, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 69)
BB: 47 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 137 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 104.5 BB
CO: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 38)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, MP raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 3 8 K
MP bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (17.5 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero bets 12.5 BB, MP calls 12.5 BB

River: (42.5 BB, 2 players) 2
MP checks, Hero bets 30.5 BB
04-03-2015 , 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suim
I dont think I can call river, either shove or fold. dont remember exactly but if I call, it'll leave like 4 bb or something like that behind
yeah you save 4bb, don't get why thats a r/fold situation
04-03-2015 , 09:24 AM
March's Goals:
[ ] Reach 110 BI for my lower stakes ( currently at 95 ).
[ ] Exercise 3 or more times a week.

So I didn't complete either. The exercise goal I was about 75% there, but still didn't reach goal. I actually was able to exercise 3 times a week for the first 3 weeks of March, but the last week I did zero exercise, I went into a bit of depression. Financials, March has been my worst month of recorded poker to date. Still a winning month, but I did not get close to my goal, I played too badly and played tired too much.

This month, I just want to focus on eating healthier, light exercise, but I'm not going to make a specific goal.

April's Goals:
[ ] 33% or more Study : Play ratio
[ ] Not playing tired for live poker

I've been reading about really good players who got there by studying a lot. So I'm going to try and study as much as I can this month.
04-03-2015 , 09:47 AM
March Goals:
[x] Failed

Did a lot of studying, volume sucked but did very good. Can't post graph atm as visiting parents at easter. Also switched to reg tables. Also switched to Microgaming.

April is going to be awesome.
04-03-2015 , 09:55 AM
Starting with poker again (10nl 6max)

April goals

[] play as many hands as possible 100k+
[] take a lot of notes and study a lot to get out of 10nl by the end of may

Sent from my GT-I9195 using 2+2 Forums
04-03-2015 , 03:43 PM
Can anyone take a look at my stats? Only played 7k hands but I'm not happy with them. It's all zoom 2nl.



Feels like my all in winrate is too low, mind you I did get coolered AA vs KK in a 200BB deep pot where I had AA, flop came 555, he reraised my cbet, I just called to keep any spaz bluffs in, then he shoved his final 40BB in on a K turn. Nothing I could have done tbh but it killed my all in EV since I got the final money in with like 5% equity when I had 95% on the previous street where most of the cash went in.

Call river efficiency should be closer to 1, right? So I need to call some more rivers too?
04-03-2015 , 04:46 PM
Stats look good. Nothing to worry about there. RCE of about 1.5 is good for 2NL. You're already seeing quite a lot of showdowns, so it's probably not a good idea to call more river bets at 2NL zoom, as villains aren't bluffing very often.
04-03-2015 , 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Stats look good. Nothing to worry about there. RCE of about 1.5 is good for 2NL. You're already seeing quite a lot of showdowns, so it's probably not a good idea to call more river bets at 2NL zoom, as villains aren't bluffing very often.
Oh I thought it was a good idea to try and get it to 1, since if I'm winning 1.5 dollars for every dollar I call OTR, doesn't that mean I leave money on the table and get bluffed too much? It used to be 0.7 about 4000 hands ago, but then I figured out when villain bets pot OTR, he always has it, so I stopped calling those. But I still call the 1/2 pot-3/4 pot bets quite wide.

Fold to 3bet should be more like 50% not 67% right? Always feels like I get 3bet in spots it's impossible to call, but might be selective memory or me just being **** at knowing what is a good spot for a call.

My all-in winrate seems really bad but it's early days, maybe I'll improve it.

      
m