Thanks for replying.Well, my thinking was not 4bb but my tourney life there. I would have close to zero chance to be in the tourney, if I call and lose. So if I call, I might as well shove, make sense? or am i missing something obvious...

Very simple spot. What do you think about cbetting here?

On the flop I cbet because there's 2 "overs", K and 9. If the fish has like A5 he's gonna have to fold. I figured out by playing HU that this is a better board to cbet against fish then K32r. Imo. the fish will try to make 2nd pair, so on K94 he can't make 2nd pair, but on K32r he can float 76 and all those hands. I might be wrong though.
I thought that the turn would be a thin bet, but I was wrong since he snap folded.
When I was playing HU, there was one cally fish who would call once with 22 on this board and then fold to turn barrel. I used to do the same myself when I started.
So is turn good double barrelling spot?

Microgaming - €2 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €131.41 (VPIP: 72.80, PFR: 9.60, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 126)
BB: €184.37 (VPIP: 25.86, PFR: 14.94, 3Bet Preflop: 2.47, Hands: 177)
UTG: €291.71 (VPIP: 35.45, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 1.85, Hands: 110)
Hero (UTG+1): €207.75
MP: €225.85 (VPIP: 25.54, PFR: 18.13, 3Bet Preflop: 3.76, Hands: 3,065)
CO: €217.40 (VPIP: 26.94, PFR: 20.84, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 2,749)
BTN: €200.00 (VPIP: 21.47, PFR: 17.40, 3Bet Preflop: 6.61, Hands: 1,683)

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has J A

fold, Hero raises to €6.00, fold, fold, fold, SB calls €5.00, fold

Flop: (€14.00, 2 players) 9 K 4
SB checks, Hero bets €9.00, SB calls €9.00

Turn: (€32.00, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets €16.00, fold

would you play the same way if flop is rainbow instead of two tone?

bad day. lost 3 BI, BR back to $41

Rainbow board would be better for bluffing.
Let's say he always floats AX combos. For example there's 3x ATx combos.
On rainbow board he would float backdoor flush draw. There's only one AT combo.
So there's 3 times more BFD combos he can have on two tone board.
That's something new to learn

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2NL zoom is a different beast to other formats and higher stakes. You can exploitatively give villains more credit for a hand than you would at 10NL+, so folding to 3-bets about 67% is probably the sweet spot in that game. Likewise with river bets. As someone said in the zoom thread "they always have it", so don't level yourself into calling too often.

Against good villain we prob need to have a mixed strategy OTT, can't probably barrel all AJ, but still we want to bet some. Against fish I'm probably just 3barreling 100% AJ, not sure if it's correct but I'd guess fish are generally overfolding when the FD bricks as they are never playing FD's aggro.

is 3 barreling such a good idea vs fish? sure they will play their draws passively and fold when it bricks on the river but they are never ever folding any Kx and there are probably more of those in their range.

PokerStars - $3+$0.30|40/80 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 76.08 BB (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 31.03, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 60)
UTG+1: 23.88 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 82.68 BB (VPIP: 30.21, PFR: 7.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 96)
MP+1: 57.21 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 12.63, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 96)
Hero (MP+2): 41.13 BB
CO: 27.56 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 96)
BTN: 25.19 BB (VPIP: 7.29, PFR: 1.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 96)
SB: 31.09 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
BB: 74.33 BB (VPIP: 17.71, PFR: 13.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 96)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 5 players) 7 Q Q
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets 6.25 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6.25 BB, fold

Turn: (25 BB, 2 players) J
UTG checks, Hero bets 32.38 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 32.38 BB

River: (89.75 BB, 2 players) 8


Villain ott was very loose preflop , did i play this fine ?

Honestly no idea if it's good or not : D

bet sizing is off, very easy rope a fish play, 9 bb turn jam river 1/2 shove

4bb is 4bb chip and a chair

Yeah me neither not really sure whats best :/

Damn I forgot the golden rule.

If they bet pot on the river, it's the nuts. All the time. Need to find the fold button more.

JFC I end up calling with TPTK because I can't fold it otherwise I fold too much, but it's never less than top 2 pair, normally a set. I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've called a pot bet on the river and been good.

I saw a hand history where ForHayley (nosebleed crusher on PokerStars) donked small in a hand where he was OOP and the turn hit his range. I tried doing the same here...is it good? He's going to check turn a lot if we check it to him. I didn't bet flop as we often have the best hand + keeps his bluffs in.

Had to bet river small as it looks totally obvious what I have. Trying to extract a call from a lower pocket pair. But my main query is the turn. Is it good to bet small on cards that hit our range like this? I don't like the idea of checking since he's just going to check all non-Ax back.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 193.5 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 44.44, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 131 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 38)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.21, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
UTG: 136.5 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 182.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (CO): 180.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 4 players) 3 2 2
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 6 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

River: (32 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 14 BB, fold

Hero wins 31 BB

small leading 100% of ace turns is a more HU concept, not for multiway pots. and the small donk is for 1/5th - 1/3 of the size of the pot

Would you lead out turn or check it? Just hate checking because he's always going to get to realise his equity with FD's and stuff like 88 will call a bet but won't bet themselves on that card.

FWIW Try not to apply too much high stakes strategy in micros. Just keep it simple.

I made an interesting discovery today. This is my graph for isolating limpers with A2o-A7o on BTN-MP. I mainly isolate just one limper with these hands, and preferably only on BTN.
What do you think? How should we play A2o-A7o when facing a limper? Fold or limp ourselves? Raising doesn't seem too profitable, unless we have a fish with 70% FTCB or something.


This is the same graph for A2s-A7s. At least with these hands we can make flushes and win big pots.

I just open fold ace-rag against limpers, since limpers love to limp Ace-rag hands themselves, so you can find yourself in bad situations when the ace comes. What do you do when you iso and flop is Axx? With small Ax I like to check behind to protect my checking range (since I can call both a turn and river bet with them meaning villain can't barrel indiscriminately). I think cbetting with ace-rag hands on Axx boards is bad in general since villains continuing range will be skewed to Ax while they bluff with all kinds of crap if you check the flop back.

Against limpers you can bet twice and expect to get called by a lot of worse crap , of course it depends what kind of limper you face , is he a fit/fold limper? a calling station limper? a reg limper? an aggresive limper? there are a lot of varieties , you should protect against passive limpers and induce against aggressive ones. In some cases even second pair is worth 2 streets of betting against limpers.

Right, 2 small questions. We should float flop cbets with BDFD's in position. What do we do when it bricks OTT and villain checks?

Just as an example, CO opens, we call with 98dd OTB, flop is T43 with a diamond, villain cbets, we call with our backdoor flush and backdoor straight. Turn is something like the K spades, villain checks. Should we stab now or not? Our backdoor outs have bricked and when he calls our equity is pretty much zero but well, surely we're calling in the first place more because we believe we can bluff villain off a hand later, rather than actually trying to hit runner runner?

Second question...how wide are you all 3betting from the SB against a CO open? Read a post on here that said we should 3bet the SB 17% against a BTN open so I've printed out the starting hands start with the top 17% on it and using that. How wide should it be against a CO open? 10%? Less? More?

If the limper is the type to limp any 2 suited cards and never folds any junky pair, then sure. But limpers do love to limp Ax s00ted hands, more than they like to limp the 73 of diamonds as a rule.

Maybe an iso isn't wrong but I think it's better to check flop, bet turn and river (or call turn and river bets) since even fish know when that ace flops and they don't have one it's bad news.

My VPIP with A2o is zero if it's folded to me on the button, so isolating doesn't even cross my mind. I'm literally never isolating or over-limping with A9-A2o. They are terrible hands post-flop. Give me something that can barrel (or that does OK multiway if the blinds cold-call or 3-bet) and I'm happier.

Haha WOW just played vs a whale who couldn't lose a pot. All the regs got stomped but I got stomped hardest. Ofc he left when he had a 800bb stack and I was on the jesus seat

CO: 638.88 BB (VPIP: 96.67, PFR: 73.33, 3Bet Preflop: 60.00, Hands: 30)
Hero (BTN): 199.5 BB
SB: 199 BB (VPIP: 21.85, PFR: 17.29, 3Bet Preflop: 8.66, Hands: 763)
BB: 200 BB (VPIP: 29.48, PFR: 23.46, 3Bet Preflop: 14.88, Hands: 671)
UTG: 362.78 BB (VPIP: 22.84, PFR: 15.74, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 199)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T K

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) T 4 7
CO checks, Hero bets 15.25 BB, CO calls 15.25 BB

Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) 9
CO checks, Hero bets 36 BB, CO calls 36 BB

River: (120 BB, 2 players) 6
CO checks, Hero bets 73 BB, CO calls 73 BB

CO shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 14%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows T K (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 47%, Flop 86%, Turn 89%)
CO wins 259.36 BB



BB: 311.92 BB (VPIP: 95.45, PFR: 72.73, 3Bet Preflop: 42.86, Hands: 22)
Hero (UTG): 205.21 BB
CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 17.34, 3Bet Preflop: 8.76, Hands: 755)
BTN: 217.15 BB (VPIP: 29.38, PFR: 23.44, 3Bet Preflop: 15.02, Hands: 663)
SB: 368.78 BB (VPIP: 23.28, PFR: 16.40, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 191)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, fold, BB calls 15 BB

Flop: (43.5 BB, 2 players) 8 T 7
BB checks, Hero bets 37.5 BB, BB calls 37.5 BB

Turn: (118.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 88.88 BB, BB calls 88.88 BB

River: (296.25 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero checks

BB shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Tens)
(Pre 17%, Flop 9%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
(Pre 83%, Flop 91%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 288.85 BB



BB: 155.02 BB (VPIP: 94.12, PFR: 76.47, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 17)
Hero (CO): 247.81 BB
BTN: 222.78 BB (VPIP: 29.29, PFR: 23.46, 3Bet Preflop: 15.17, Hands: 658)
SB: 378.78 BB (VPIP: 22.28, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 3.51, Hands: 186)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, fold, BB calls 15 BB

Flop: (43 BB, 2 players) A J 5
BB checks, Hero bets 32.25 BB, BB calls 32.25 BB

Turn: (107.5 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 104 BB, BB calls 102.77 BB and is all-in

River: (313.04 BB, 2 players) 8

BB shows J 5 (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
(Pre 37%, Flop 73%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows A K (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 63%, Flop 27%, Turn 18%)
BB wins 305.54 BB