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04-24-2012 , 03:08 AM
Nothing players like more than CASH back, event he cash ticket things FT did were good. Why the **** i wanna earn points to spend on a hoody that does nothing more than advertise for your site?
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04-24-2012 , 05:28 AM
Any info on what's new with today's update?
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04-24-2012 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Extinuous
Any info on what's new with today's update?






"Right click to show table themes" has to be enabled.



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04-24-2012 , 06:06 AM
Thank you, FullArsenal.
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04-24-2012 , 07:20 AM
Hello 2+2,

We will release a client update over the next few days. Besides some further ZOOM improvements released with this update, we are also introducing some exciting new features. More details below.

Easier and Richer Table Customization (Beta)

We are adding the ability to choose a different background and to change the felt color for each theme. After the update, you can right-click on the respective area of the table and you will see a drop-down menu with a selection of background or felt choices. For example, you can play with Nova theme with a light-colored background, or play with Black theme and a red felt on a red carpet background.


Initially, all Nova, Black, Classic, and Slick themes will support this functionality, but we will expand it to all themes around mid-May. We also plan to add more functionality then, to make it even easier to get the table look and feel which are perfect for you.

We would love to hear your feedback about this feature once you have had a chance to try it out, especially about what backgrounds and what felt colors you would like to have offered.

Note: The drop-down menus to change felt or background will not show if you have disabled the option in the lobby 'View' > 'Right-click Table to Show Table Themes'. In this case, you can check that option, change your felt/background and disable it again if you want to keep it disabled.

Group Similar Ring Game Tables (Beta for Play Money)

We are working on making it easier to find and join games in the lobby. To this end, we will release a feature that groups all ring game tables of the same type together.


Clicking “Seat Me” will quickly place you at a table with an available seat from this group of tables, or by clicking the “+” icon you can expand each group to see the individual tables.

Initially, this feature will be deployed only for Hold’em and Omaha Play Money games, but the plan is to roll it out to all Ring Games. We will of course offer the option to keep the current view of games by not grouping them. To see the feature, simply go to the Hold’em or Omaha Play Money tabs after the client update.

Zoom

We have made a lot of improvements to Zoom this month based on player feedback. Some of the new changes released with this client are:
  • “Fold and Watch” button inside the Fold button, making it easier to Fold and Watch a hand by just a single click of the mouse. This is optional and off by default. To enable this feature go to ‘Options’ > ‘ZOOM Options’ > ‘Display Fold and Watch’ from the lobby.

  • “New Hand” button while watching. After choosing to Fold and Watch there will now be a “New Hand” button so that you can jump straight back into action without having to wait for the hand to actually finish.
  • Tweaks to back-end performance to improve the flow of the game, which might be more noticeable to players with a bit slower connections.
Auto-Refresh Info Tab

The “Info” tab on the tables will now automatically refresh after each hand. This has freed up some space so we are adding “X places paid” for tournaments. Please let us know what you will find most useful for both ring games and tournament to be added in this tab.

Hotkeys

We are introducing some further improvements to Hotkeys, including:
  • Activate Next/Previous Table. The behaviour here is changing to closer match the feedback that we have received.
  • ZOOM Fold and Watch hotkey is being introduced.

Auto-Buy-In and Rathole Restriction

We have added an option in the Auto-Buy-In dialog to allow players to auto-buy-in for the rathole restriction amount when applicable and not be prompted with the buy-in dialog. To activate this setting, simply check “Automatically return to table with same amount if required” in the Auto-Buy-In dialog (‘Options’ > ‘Auto-Buy-In (Ring Games)’).


As always we have a lot of minor tweaks and fixes to the client, among which is improved design to the pre-action check boxes and removing the green “Seat Open” design until we refine it more.

Note: The above changes would only take effect once your gaming client has been updated, which could happen at different times for different players. We plan to update Mac .COM client today and Windows .COM client tomorrow. Regional clients are also planned to be updated today or tomorrow(.EU client update was already released late last night). Please ensure you are running PokerStarsUpdate.exe to get the update.
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04-24-2012 , 07:33 AM
chuck a few more micro plo sng's into the mix please.
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04-24-2012 , 08:31 AM
By the way Stefan, why is it allowed to go south on Zoom tables? (leave with 9999bb and instantly rejoin with 50bb).
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04-24-2012 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Extinuous
By the way Stefan, why is it allowed to go south on Zoom tables? (leave with 9999bb and instantly rejoin with 50bb).
Because it doesn't matter since you're playing at a new table every hands.
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04-24-2012 , 09:33 AM
Creepy eye.

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
Hotkeys
We are introducing some further improvements to Hotkeys, including:

Activate Next/Previous Table. The behaviour here is changing to closer match the feedback that we have received.
Can you (or anyone else who knows what Stefan means) elaborate on this?
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04-24-2012 , 09:36 AM
the fold button isnt working quite correct for the .fr client (5.717). i have configured the right mouse button to "fold". but since the recent update itll fold everytime, although it would be possible to check e.g. i am in the bb and first to act on the flop, but pressing "fold" now directly folds instead of checking. in earlier builds there was a popup i could choose whether to check or fold. hope this change isnt intentional and wont make it in the .com update.
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04-24-2012 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kalktresor
the fold button isnt working quite correct for the .fr client (5.717).
There's a joke in there.
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04-24-2012 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
Can you (or anyone else who knows what Stefan means) elaborate on this?
Currently Next/Previous Table hotkey has quite advanced logic that is difficult for players to understand and does not seem to match what's expected:
  • If you don't need to act on any table, next/previous would cycle through tables that you are seated at, but will not include tables that you are not seated at.
  • If you have to act on at least one table, next/previous would start to cycle only through tables that you need to act on.

The new logic would simply cycle through all open tables based on the Z order of the tables.

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Originally Posted by kalktresor
the fold button isnt working quite correct for the .fr client (5.717). i have configured the right mouse button to "fold". but since the recent update itll fold everytime, although it would be possible to check e.g. i am in the bb and first to act on the flop, but pressing "fold" now directly folds instead of checking. in earlier builds there was a popup i could choose whether to check or fold. hope this change isnt intentional and wont make it in the .com update.
You can go to 'Requests' > 'Restore Pop-Up Notifications'. This will bring back the pop up that asks you to choose between Fold and Check next time you hit Fold when Check is available and you can set your preference again to Check in this case.
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04-24-2012 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
Currently Next/Previous Table hotkey has quite advanced logic that is difficult for players to understand and does not seem to match what's expected:
  • If you don't need to act on any table, next/previous would cycle through tables that you are seated at, but will not include tables that you are not seated at.
  • If you have to act on at least one table, next/previous would start to cycle only through tables that you need to act on.

The new logic would simply cycle through all open tables based on the Z order of the tables.
As it happens...

the activate next would cycle through all tables where action is required whereas the activate previous would cycle through all seated tables, shame a few? ignorati ruined a perfectly well designed system
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04-24-2012 , 06:23 PM
I now have tables popping up and stealing focus from notes even though I have

[x] Popup table whenever user action is required
[x] Don't steal focus from chat and notes

Mac version, today's update installed.
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04-24-2012 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Because it doesn't matter since you're playing at a new table every hands.
Yeah I guess this is the case in NLHE Zoom with its volume. Looks pretty different in PLO8 though, with 50-70 players and most of them 2-4 tabling. Going south is a serious issue there.
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04-25-2012 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
Currently Next/Previous Table hotkey has quite advanced logic that is difficult for players to understand and does not seem to match what's expected:
  • If you don't need to act on any table, next/previous would cycle through tables that you are seated at, but will not include tables that you are not seated at.
  • If you have to act on at least one table, next/previous would start to cycle only through tables that you need to act on.

The new logic would simply cycle through all open tables based on the Z order of the tables.


ive been quiet vocal about my distaste for the current hotkey cycling but in all honesty that was because it just didnt seem to work. I think if this logic had been explained i would have been more than happy for it to stay this way.

that said i like the new cycling system. cant we have both to chose from?

also i love how even pokerstars calls it ratholeing LMAO
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04-25-2012 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cschopke
This has probably been mentioned already, but I wanted to reiterate it:

Please make the rewards program have some value to the casual low volume player!

I play as a hobby, and consider myself lucky to have a few hours to play on weekends. This month I have played about 12000 hands of 10nl zoom (which for me is a very high volume), and I am still 200 VPP short of reaching silver star. Because I had some VPP's from earlier this year, I just cleared the first 10 dollar bonus, but I feel like I am getting nothing back from the system. It is quite discouraging, and I would like to see some changes to make the rewards system more accessible for low volume casual players like myself.

Thanks
+1

Point from an other Hobby player, who plays like 8h (20-60MTT/SNG's avg4$)tourneys and 3-4h of 10plo CG (4 tabling or 2 tabling zoom).

I barely reach silver status. Not to mention the impossibility to reach something higher.

What about about silver for 500VPP and something between silver and gold? Or something else in that direction. I love Stars, but this is so frustrating.
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04-25-2012 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by retroguy
ive been quiet vocal about my distaste for the current hotkey cycling but in all honesty that was because it just didnt seem to work. I think if this logic had been explained i would have been more than happy for it to stay this way.

that said i like the new cycling system. cant we have both to chose from?
This is always an option but let's first see if it is at all necessary to keep the previous logic. The expectation is that the new cycling logic will closer match what players expect out of this feature and the previous logic is not needed.
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04-25-2012 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
Hello 2+2,

Easier and Richer Table Customization (Beta)

We are adding the ability to choose a different background and to change the felt color for each theme. After the update, you can right-click on the respective area of the table and you will see a drop-down menu with a selection of background or felt choices. For example, you can play with Nova theme with a light-colored background, or play with Black theme and a red felt on a red carpet background.


Initially, all Nova, Black, Classic, and Slick themes will support this functionality, but we will expand it to all themes around mid-May. We also plan to add more functionality then, to make it even easier to get the table look and feel which are perfect for you.

We would love to hear your feedback about this feature once you have had a chance to try it out, especially about what backgrounds and what felt colors you would like to have offered.

Note: The drop-down menus to change felt or background will not show if you have disabled the option in the lobby 'View' > 'Right-click Table to Show Table Themes'. In this case, you can check that option, change your felt/background and disable it again if you want to keep it disabled.
Please include a method to define felt colors and background images for XThemes
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04-25-2012 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
Currently Next/Previous Table hotkey has quite advanced logic that is difficult for players to understand and does not seem to match what's expected:
  • If you don't need to act on any table, next/previous would cycle through tables that you are seated at, but will not include tables that you are not seated at.
  • If you have to act on at least one table, next/previous would start to cycle only through tables that you need to act on.

I really like the above system...

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The new logic would simply cycle through all open tables based on the Z order of the tables.
... and I think the new one would be much worse than the current system. I cannot work out why others would prefer to cycle through all tables instead of just the ones you have to act on, that would really hamper the usefulness of this feature for me.

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
This is always an option but let's first see if it is at all necessary to keep the previous logic. The expectation is that the new cycling logic will closer match what players expect out of this feature and the previous logic is not needed.
I'll be interested to try it out but from how you're described the changes and from my own experience I think I'll much prefer the current system.

Also, I keep mentioning this, length of time action is displayed for is far too long
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04-25-2012 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Yngwie Malmsteen
I cannot work out why others would prefer to cycle through all tables instead of just the ones you have to act on, that would really hamper the usefulness of this feature for me.
I agree. There needs to be a way to instantly get to a table that requires urgent action by the click of a single button. Click again and the next table that also requires an action pops up.
Pretty essential for those who stack multiple tables on top of each other.
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04-25-2012 , 11:03 AM
Pokerstars, please include an option to remove the table felt and its borders completely. Some people like to play on a window with a custom background and no ellipsoidal table felt or ps logo.
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04-25-2012 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lien
Pokerstars, please include an option to remove the table felt and its borders completely. Some people like to play on a window with a custom background and no ellipsoidal table felt or ps logo.
If you want to play on a custom background you can buy them from third party sites. I play with a layout called mighty mouse which looks nothing like any standard pokerstars layout.
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04-25-2012 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lien
Pokerstars, please include an option to remove the table felt and its borders completely. Some people like to play on a window with a custom background and no ellipsoidal table felt or ps logo.
Ask them to remove the logo from the felt ? Really ? It's like asking Nike to remove the logo from your favourite type of snickers because you don't like the color.
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04-25-2012 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FullArsenal
Ask them to remove the logo from the felt ? Really ? It's like asking Nike to remove the logo from your favourite type of snickers because you don't like the color.
That's a terrible analogy unless you stare at your shoes when you walk.
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