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08-30-2012 , 01:12 AM
I think that what pokerstars does with changing the design of their client is fantastic. Not only that, but the way changes are implemented shows that there is a method here, not just haphazard fixes left and right but a methodical plan to bring the client into the 21st century. From those of us who think aesthetics count for a lot, a big thumbs up.

I am a bit older than the average grinder and I am used to focus on one window at a time. That's why I stack. My main gripe with the current format is that when I do so, I get a lot of empty space left and right with parts of the desktop showing. There's nothing substantive that makes my life worse, but for OCD's sake I would prefer if I could fill the whole screen with the window I am watching.

Substantively-wise, if you did add more space, I guess I would prefer if the extra space was used for my HUD.

Now, please do bear in mind that saying that if you should decide to change aspect ratio to fit widescreen monitors, that will not necessarily work for all players because there is an underlying assumption there that doesn't apply to everyone. The underlying assumption is that people use a single-row horizontal task bar.

However this doesn't apply to me and I also think to many others. In my 19'' 1360x768 monitor, I use a rather thick vertical taskbar. Even in my old laptop with it's 4:3 ratio, in order to play properly, I had expanded the horizontal taskbar into two rows. That however set the aspect ratio of the tables out of whack also leaving empty space left and right.

That's why unlocking the aspect ratio and allowing each player to adjust the window to their playing circumstances seem to me like the best way to go.
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08-30-2012 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
what about a filter under "advanced" for "max number on waitlist"

i dont really care to much seeing tables with waitlists over x.
would remove a lot of tables, lol
I've asked for this itt before

+1
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08-30-2012 , 02:34 AM
Tiling 6 tables with no overlap using 100% of a 1920*1080 screen AND using readable fonts would be awesome.
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08-30-2012 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FDSaussure
Time to show off my mad MSPaint skills



Samples of 4 and 9 tiles on 1920x1080:

http://imgur.com/a/swpnV

This basically retains the original table layout but moves the chatbox and action elements into the corners unused by the table circle, allowing the table to be enlarged some aswell.
Best thus far.
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08-30-2012 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FDSaussure
Time to show off my mad MSPaint skills



Samples of 4 and 9 tiles on 1920x1080:

http://imgur.com/a/swpnV

This basically retains the original table layout but moves the chatbox and action elements into the corners unused by the table circle, allowing the table to be enlarged some aswell.
seems like a good idea until you try to duplicate it with 9 seats, advanced bet actions, and a time bank
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08-30-2012 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CocteauTwin
We need a bottle of champagne smiley asap.
or a bling blang blaow smiley...
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08-30-2012 , 07:31 AM
Is pokerstars down ?
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08-30-2012 , 07:32 AM
server restart
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08-30-2012 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by evildeadalive
server restart
thx
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08-30-2012 , 07:36 AM
It's working again.
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08-30-2012 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bar Nuthin
seems like a good idea until you try to duplicate it with 9 seats, advanced bet actions, and a time bank
Yeah, the more I think about it the less convinced I am that it needs changing. Speaking as someone who tiles around 4-6 tables and needs spare space for the HH replayer, notes etc.
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08-30-2012 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bar Nuthin
seems like a good idea until you try to duplicate it with 9 seats, advanced bet actions, and a time bank
Well you can't stretch the table quite as much I guess...



The chat/info box can be larger here, action buttons too. Also the table could be wider (but not taller) to space out the players a bit more.
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08-30-2012 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by d0nk3y


Not sure if a lot of people would use it but shouldn't be too hard to add.
Maybe in a few months.

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Originally Posted by KiWiKaKi
When can we expect shorthanded play for zoom fr to start tables easily, its been a while and still no update for something pretty easy to program and vital to start these tables
It is not in the immediate future, but possibly after 2-3 months.

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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
what about a filter under "advanced" for "max number on waitlist"

i dont really care to much seeing tables with waitlists over x.
would remove a lot of tables, lol
This is a neat idea. Not top priority right now, but will see when we could fit this.

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Originally Posted by Amazed
I'd like the software to remember on tables which tab I have open, e.g. if one is looking @ 'info' and moved to a new table, it reverts back to 'chat'
Will look into this.

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Originally Posted by greg nice
simply because it will be a nightmare for 3rd party programs to support, since there will be no definite way to account for the scaling of the table
What I meant by allowing the aspect ratio to be variable is to allow the background to fill in different aspect ratios (relatively easy on most backgrounds) and then simply position the table elements as a group within the extra space. So should not make things too difficult to adapt (if at all needed). Also, Tile, Cascade, Stack will keep all tables with the same aspect ratio. Finally, should we go down this path, we will certainly offer an option to lock the aspect ratio.

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Originally Posted by Yngwie Malmsteen
Yeah, the more I think about it the less convinced I am that it needs changing. Speaking as someone who tiles around 4-6 tables and needs spare space for the HH replayer, notes etc.
It definitely does not seem the problem is big. The biggest item seems to be the extra space when tiling, which we can certainly find a solution for. Whatever we do though, we will offer an option to keep current behavior intact.
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08-30-2012 , 12:42 PM
Please please please change the date column so date is after time for today's tournaments. It makes no sense whatsoever, I know what today's date is
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08-30-2012 , 03:33 PM
QUESTION: Why isn't zoom tables sitout unlimited?, or atleast longer than 10-15minsl ike what you guys have now?.... when it first came out it was longer & i could actually go eat and come back to my session, whats with that??, tis not like a regular table where when you sitout you take up a seat...
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08-30-2012 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan

What I meant by allowing the aspect ratio to be variable is to allow the background to fill in different aspect ratios (relatively easy on most backgrounds) and then simply position the table elements as a group within the extra space. So should not make things too difficult to adapt (if at all needed). Also, Tile, Cascade, Stack will keep all tables with the same aspect ratio. Finally, should we go down this path, we will certainly offer an option to lock the aspect ratio.
fair enough, i suppose i'd have to see how its implemented in real life to see what its like
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08-30-2012 , 05:10 PM
I just realized 4man HU SNGs don't show up after I filter them in.
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08-30-2012 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan
What I meant by allowing the aspect ratio to be variable is to allow the background to fill in different aspect ratios (relatively easy on most backgrounds) and then simply position the table elements as a group within the extra space. So should not make things too difficult to adapt (if at all needed). Also, Tile, Cascade, Stack will keep all tables with the same aspect ratio. Finally, should we go down this path, we will certainly offer an option to lock the aspect ratio.

It definitely does not seem the problem is big. The biggest item seems to be the extra space when tiling, which we can certainly find a solution for. Whatever we do though, we will offer an option to keep current behavior intact.
now you're talking

ideally you could have 5 anchor points - one being at each (4) absolute corner and one absolute center

then you could assign assign elements to be relative to one of the five anchor points

example -
tables, seats, etc are positioned relative to the center anchor
chat, stats, sit out options positioned relative to bottom left corner
bet slider, bet buttons, time bank - bottom right
view lobby, leave table, etc. upper right
hand history, links, etc. upper left

then as you adjust the aspect ratio - these element stay in their respective corners while the game table remains centered

you'd also need to capture/lock the new ratio so the software could still know how to resize images if you enlarge or shrink windows with the new aspect ratio applied


at least that's the way G3KO explained it to me
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08-31-2012 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Pascal-lF
Please please please change the date column so date is after time for today's tournaments. It makes no sense whatsoever, I know what today's date is
I sometimes forget today's date because I'm a moron.

But even I don't need Stars to tell me today's date. I just need to know if the tournament starts at 12:15 or 12:45 and therefore whether I can go have a nap or not.
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08-31-2012 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bar Nuthin
now you're talking

ideally you could have 5 anchor points - one being at each (4) absolute corner and one absolute center

then you could assign assign elements to be relative to one of the five anchor points

example -
tables, seats, etc are positioned relative to the center anchor
chat, stats, sit out options positioned relative to bottom left corner
bet slider, bet buttons, time bank - bottom right
view lobby, leave table, etc. upper right
hand history, links, etc. upper left

then as you adjust the aspect ratio - these element stay in their respective corners while the game table remains centered

you'd also need to capture/lock the new ratio so the software could still know how to resize images if you enlarge or shrink windows with the new aspect ratio applied


at least that's the way G3KO explained it to me
Now everyone's talking!
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08-31-2012 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bar Nuthin
now you're talking

ideally you could have 5 anchor points - one being at each (4) absolute corner and one absolute center

then you could assign assign elements to be relative to one of the five anchor points

example -
tables, seats, etc are positioned relative to the center anchor
chat, stats, sit out options positioned relative to bottom left corner
bet slider, bet buttons, time bank - bottom right
view lobby, leave table, etc. upper right
hand history, links, etc. upper left

then as you adjust the aspect ratio - these element stay in their respective corners while the game table remains centered

you'd also need to capture/lock the new ratio so the software could still know how to resize images if you enlarge or shrink windows with the new aspect ratio applied


at least that's the way G3KO explained it to me
Sounds good to me!
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08-31-2012 , 10:38 AM
+1 to Bar Nuthin's post and do you think you could please add the functionality to allow players to type in exact dollar amounts for buy-in's in the tournament filter rather than ranges?

Also, some extra security options for p2p transfers would be nice...leave it as is but let people add extra security if they want it...for example, entering a PIN or the RSA passcode before the transaction will go through and also, some other identifier like a player ID number which could be compared before you send the money (as a double check to verify you are sending it to the right person)...but like I said though, only add these as options not requirements...thanks
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08-31-2012 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLizardKing
+1 to Bar Nuthin's post and do you think you could please add the functionality to allow players to type in exact dollar amounts for buy-in's in the tournament filter rather than ranges?

Also, some extra security options for p2p transfers would be nice...leave it as is but let people add extra security if they want it...for example, entering a PIN or the RSA passcode before the transaction will go through and also, some other identifier like a player ID number which could be compared before you send the money (as a double check to verify you are sending it to the right person)...but like I said though, only add these as options not requirements...thanks
You can use the text filter to search for exact dollar buyins afaik.
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08-31-2012 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLizardKing
...Also, some extra security options for p2p transfers would be nice...leave it as is but let people add extra security if they want it...for example, entering a PIN or the RSA passcode before the transaction will go through and also, some other identifier like a player ID number which could be compared before you send the money (as a double check to verify you are sending it to the right person)...but like I said though, only add these as options not requirements...thanks
PokerStars already uses information like this when reviewing cash outs and/or real money transfers.
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08-31-2012 , 12:36 PM
I like the idea of having to put in your RSA key code to make a transfer as well as log in
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