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01-09-2018 , 03:33 PM
Take yearly float of btc; 5m coins? * 14800
Take yearly float of eth: 30m coins? * 1200

74b + 36b + 1.2b usdt= 101.2b


****coins “mcap” 400b

You’re leveraging yourself 4x by simply holding a ****coin that doesn’t have a function Gus’s pair
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01-09-2018 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo

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****ing loser

You skip the part where you called all ETH holders mETHeads, the biggest idiots ever, stupid bag holders and that we should cash out at $200 ‘whilst you still can’

You were wrong about ETH , he was right.

He was a lot more gracious than I’d of been after the **** you’ve said .

So you should probably just stfu
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01-09-2018 , 04:05 PM
nice post kazuya.
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01-09-2018 , 04:11 PM
+1 On Kazuya's post. All good information.

If we (poker players with an interest in crypto) have learned anything from 2017, it's that crypto has unbelievable potential and any time spent researching/investing the crypto space is worthwhile.
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01-09-2018 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Westley
You skip the part where you called all ETH holders mETHeads, the biggest idiots ever, stupid bag holders and that we should cash out at $200 ‘whilst you still can’

You were wrong about ETH , he was right.

He was a lot more gracious than I’d of been after the **** you’ve said .

So you should probably just stfu
Is this an actual argument??

Never told anyone to sell anything.
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01-09-2018 , 05:18 PM
Anybody made buys with a credit card(Chase or Citi) on coinbase? Does it post as a cash advance? I read something about them using a euro processor and people getting hit with foreign transaction fees. Is that still true?
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01-09-2018 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sofocused978
Anybody made buys with a credit card(Chase or Citi) on coinbase? Does it post as a cash advance? I read something about them using a euro processor and people getting hit with foreign transaction fees. Is that still true?
yes
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01-09-2018 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazuya
I assure you my health is just fine. In fact, the last year my portfolio has outperformed Ethereum due to sizeable bets on swing-trading and my stash increased by around ~140% in ETH terms (you know me, I just had to work that in just for you, my #1 fan ). I’ll let you do the math on that one just cause I know that will likely rustle you hardcore. See you next year!

Good luck in 2018 everyone, for real.
Well, nice cameo. Wish you'd be more active itt but once annually isn't too bad I suppose.

Also gtfo if you have 140% more eth than what you had earlier. Pretty god like if so. Obv post pics of lambo.
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01-09-2018 , 06:13 PM
Kazuya, you are a god. Respect for going all out in what you believed.

Has anyone listened to Vitalik's interview on unChained? He talks about how one of his fear is that the crypto revolution makes stupid people rich and how he does not believe that "old money" is worse than "new money". It really hits home, I enjoy the money and all but this thing is first and foremost a technology that can change the world.
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01-09-2018 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
Btc eth ltc and usdt are the reserve assets in crypto

3 of them have a finite, known, and rate limited supply rate

****coins have an unlimited supply rate.


Bitcoin can no longer be expected to generate 1000% returns anymore because of how strong the public opinion is over its price.


But it is still the most liquid usd pair and a reserve currency for all cryptos. One day you’ll understand this. I hope before it’s not too late.
I hope you trade better than you post. You let your emotions get the best of you and try to constantly insult and belittle people.
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01-09-2018 , 06:48 PM
I understand where btc’s strengths are and most of them are slowly eroding away. The more exchanges offering eth pairings and the more coins listed on coinbase the more btc loses from its fundamental strengths and advantages. The value of btc is in its utility and the network. It’s being outpaced. Btc is still the king and probably will be for a while but if you’re a bitcoin maximalist and not concerned you might want to rethink things.
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01-09-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
I hope you trade better than you post. You let your emotions get the best of you and try to constantly insult and belittle people.
im a terrible "trader"

so terrible, that I've literally given out free $ to people i've deeply respected here and helped make me $.

Just like in 2013-2015, I'll still be around to pick up the pieces and get rich... again, because only the strong survive.
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01-09-2018 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
I understand where btc’s strengths are and most of them are slowly eroding away. The more exchanges offering eth pairings and the more coins listed on coinbase the more btc loses from its fundamental strengths and advantages. The value of btc is in its utility and the network. It’s being outpaced. Btc is still the king and probably will be for a while but if you’re a bitcoin maximalist and not concerned you might want to rethink things.
no you moron. you are literally not getting it.


First, please tell me exactly where I wrote that btc is the king of value or utility, btc maximalism, or whatever random crap you cobbled together.

Because my entire ****ing argument actually had nothing to do with that, in fact, I went out of my way to specifically mention that ethereum, possessing a high volume USD pair across multiple exchanges in different countries, makes it an attractive investment visavis to alts.


The only liquid markets are

eth/usd
btc/usd
ltc/usd
and to a lesser extent usd/usdt


When you own a ****coin like ripple, iota, cosmos, eos, whatever. You are owning a derivative of eth/btc/ltc because they do not possess a functioning exit ramp in the markets.

Which in it of itself is not a problem. However, as more and more ****coins get launched, and trade on platforms, they are removing btc/eth/ltc liquidity away from the markets. How do we know this? because eth/btc/ltc are a FIXED AND RATE LIMITED supply rate. Altcoins, (e.g. ICOs) have unlimited inflation properties. More ****coins competing for same amount of btc/eth/ltc/usdt.


Simple maffs.
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01-09-2018 , 07:09 PM
simple question


how much $1 into crypto, eg into usdt or btc or eth or ltc (or any functioning fiat market) increases or decreases total cyrpto mcap?

$1:1???
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01-09-2018 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Westley
You skip the part where you called all ETH holders mETHeads, the biggest idiots ever, stupid bag holders and that we should cash out at $200 ‘whilst you still can’

You were wrong about ETH , he was right.

He was a lot more gracious than I’d of been after the **** you’ve said .

So you should probably just stfu
In Aggo's defense, my friends and I all call it mETH routinely now. It's pretty hilarious
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01-09-2018 , 07:23 PM
i havent read what you are talking about but no the market cap is highly leveraged with fresh capital.
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01-09-2018 , 07:24 PM
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The only liquid markets are

usd/usdt
I LOLd
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01-09-2018 , 07:27 PM
money is trust... dollar is trust...


markets trust usdt. and its being used as a way to sell CNY and buy "dollars"


but dont listen to me... just listen to bitfinexed because he still thinks that all those USDT are buying bitcoin!

wash tarder.
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01-09-2018 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
no you moron. you are literally not getting it.


When you own a ****coin like ripple, iota, cosmos, eos, whatever. You are owning a derivative of eth/btc/ltc because they do not possess a functioning exit ramp in the markets.
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tether
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01-09-2018 , 07:29 PM
im not even sure what you are saying half the time. its code for something that i cant contribute to, and you are obviously making sarcastic misleading comments that many wont understand.
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01-09-2018 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
money is trust... dollar is trust...


markets trust usdt. and its being used as a way to sell CNY and buy "dollars"


but dont listen to me... just listen to bitfinexed because he still thinks that all those USDT are buying bitcoin!

wash tarder.
Do some research. Look up the trading volume for BTC/USD, ETH/USD and USDT/USD.

I'll even let you include all the wash trading on kraken. The kraken USDT/USD fee schedule https://www.kraken.com/help/fees is the only one with zero trading fees after certain volume is reached, but we'll pretend like that doesn't matter.

Try converting $1M USDT to USD and let me know how it goes.
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01-09-2018 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by andr3w321
Do some research. Look up the trading volume for BTC/USD, ETH/USD and USDT/USD.

I'll even let you include all the wash trading on kraken. The kraken USDT/USD fee schedule https://www.kraken.com/help/fees is the only one with zero trading fees after certain volume is reached, but we'll pretend like that doesn't matter.

Try converting $1M USDT to USD and let me know how it goes.
WE FOUND A WASH TARDER
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01-09-2018 , 07:40 PM
i dunno how im supposed to feel about this


1- being told that people cannot understand my arguments... thus i am bull****ting
2- being cherry picked to death about tether
3- same people who are tether tards are probably altcoin tards (deeply ironic)


try fitting 400b worth of altcoins into 1.2b worth of tether
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01-09-2018 , 07:46 PM
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try fitting $800B worth of cryptocurrency into $6B worth of USD
FYP
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