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02-03-2015 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Doodooman
So ever since the Lock Poker debacle I've been a nomad looking for a new poker site.

First I tried betonline. Won a $10,000 tourney and never played again, even though I won. Playing people going all in on q2 and 78 off was the most irritating experience of my life, plus there's no regular large tournament schedule.

Next I tried Americas Cardroom. Great tournament sizes, lots of players, fast cashout. The software gives me a headache. I finished a grinding session there and felt like I had been at work for 12 hours. Left and never went back.

Bovada was my haven. Then they stopped allowing NY players.

Tried full flush until I realized it was just a rehash of betonline, with no large prizepool guaranteed tournaments.

I'm primarily a tournament player. I got first place in the 100k freeroll tourney on lock 6 weeks in a row once. I can't find a site with a good large gtd tournament schedule that allows US, or at least NY players.

Can anyone on 2+2 recommend something? I was so happy to play on Bovada until they disallowed NY players. Now I'm stuck.
Call me crazy, but people shoving all in pre with Q2 and 87 is exactly what I'd want to see at a poker site... very +EV!

In so far as your NY options as a tournament player, you've exhausted all the large sites with perhaps the exception of Carbon Poker. It depends on what zip code you reside in as to whether or not you can play there.

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Originally Posted by kahnfan
How does this work? I like the idea, i think I'll feel safer gambling online through bit coin. It just seems like it's less traceable.
You buy bitcoins online and deposit them to the site. Then you withdraw in bitcoins to your wallet. There are hundreds of guides on how bitcoins work that you can find via Google.

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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
Ok, thanks. Now Carbon is experiencing similar type of network site connection problems etc.. that others are experiencing anyway.
A dozen poker sites have been confirmed to be under DDoS attacks over the past few months. This is Industry wide on both US and ROW sites. It's not just online poker though, all sorts of corporations are being attacked. The attacks will subside as the sites counter with IP blocks, upgraded hardware and software solutions, etc etc.

If you rule out one site b/c of DDoS you'll simply run into it on another sooner or later on whatever other site you choose to play on. A better strategy might be to keep money on more than one site so that you can have an alternative site to play on should your favorite site be down. This also has the added benefit of giving you more game selection when both sites are fully functional.

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Kahn
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02-03-2015 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by totaltool
Pretty sure you can still play on Bovada and withdraw; just can't deposit. ...
newbie here. bovada, bcp, and acr all took my visa card recently. carbon does not like it for some reason.

software on bcp and acr seems a bit nicer than bovada.

bovada has fast foldem, the other don't seem to have it.

thanks
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02-03-2015 , 07:37 PM
I read about carbon crashing all week this week and it makes me nervous. I would rather use a hud, but will go with Bovada if I have to.

Simple question. I have 1K to deposit today. Should I put it all on Bovada, or should I put 500 on Bovada and 500 on Carbon. Any help from recent players would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Sknub77
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02-03-2015 , 09:38 PM
900 on bov and buy iholdem indicator
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02-03-2015 , 09:42 PM
is holdem indicator the same as tournament indicator?
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02-04-2015 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sknub77
I read about carbon crashing all week this week and it makes me nervous. I would rather use a hud, but will go with Bovada if I have to.

Simple question. I have 1K to deposit today. Should I put it all on Bovada, or should I put 500 on Bovada and 500 on Carbon. Any help from recent players would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Sknub77
Sknub

I've played a good amount on each site over the last year (about 100k hands on bovada, and about 75k on carbon), and I have to say I like carbon more. I used a HUD (tournament indicator) on Bovada, and I use PT4 on carbon, and the PT4 hud is just way better. Also, it's a hassle to keep track of your play on bovada unless you pay for the bovada hand converter or use the free web converter, which is time consuming. It's also harder to analyze your play on bovada after-the-fact because the HUD stats in replayer are never unique to the villain, but to villains position in general.

DC issues are a thing on carbon, but I generally don't experience them any day other than Sunday. Bovada has a better MTT schedule than Carbon, though theirs is nothing to scoff at.

TL;DR - the occasional DC issues on carbon are not outweighed by a good # of fish who play on this site, the use of HUD and PT4, and a pretty good MTT schedule. Bovada is pretty cool, don't get me wrong, so maybe use 150 of your roll to buy tournament indicator and a pt4 micro stakes license, and put 400 or so on each site to try it out

Last edited by q.olivarez; 02-04-2015 at 04:54 PM.
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02-04-2015 , 04:52 PM
Winning picking up traffic and good for hud 2
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02-04-2015 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sknub77
I read about carbon crashing ... I would rather use a hud, but will go with Bovada if I have to ...
very newbie here. just got accounts at bovada, bcp, and acr. carbon does not like the same credit card that i used for the others.

pt4 works seamlessly with bcp and acr so far (maybe not as many players as bovada though). hm2 probably does also.

bcp and acr client seems a little nicer than bovada's.

you can deposit as little as $50 (or maybe it's $10) at bcp and acr.

i would suggest trying all 3 or 4 with smaller amounts until you decide which one you like.

you can't play on bcp and acr at the same time, but you can play on one and also on bovada.

thanks

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02-04-2015 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sknub77
is holdem indicator the same as tournament indicator?
Same company. Hold'em Indicator is for cash games and Tournament Indicator is for Tournaments.
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02-04-2015 , 11:50 PM
Didn't get a chance to deposit today because I had to take my mom to E.R. (she is doing fine now) so I'll get it done tomorrow. Going to buy Tournament indicator and deposit on carbon and bovada. Thanks everyone for the comments.
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02-05-2015 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Same company. Hold'em Indicator is for cash games and Tournament Indicator is for Tournaments.
does holdem indicator work on bovada?

thanks
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02-05-2015 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Tayek
does holdem indicator work on bovada?

thanks
I haven't used it myself but as far as I know, yes.
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02-05-2015 , 01:46 PM
I see Carbon allows you to play on your iphone in a browser... any thoughts about Carbon? How do I deposit via pre-paid visa? I am a purely tournament player (unless if feel like losing money, then I will sit down at tables for cash games, haha!) What are my other options? Idealy using private browsing on iphone to play is where it's at for me, since I like to beat of the wife's prying eyes. Yes I said it.
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02-05-2015 , 02:28 PM
I'd go with Bovada, but that's just me, if you're buying a pre-paid, buy netspend visa
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02-05-2015 , 02:36 PM
Any application that goes on iPad can be installed on iPhone, but jailbreak may be needed.
For example I play Hearthstone on my iPhone since it came out
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02-05-2015 , 02:37 PM
I tried to Register and they do not take NY players. But I found out I have an account. I logged in, and tried to change my email address and it said. "We no longer accept players from NY" FFS!!!! I was so close, hahaha
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02-05-2015 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
A dozen poker sites have been confirmed to be under DDoS attacks over the past few months. This is Industry wide on both US and ROW sites. It's not just online poker though, all sorts of corporations are being attacked. The attacks will subside as the sites counter with IP blocks, upgraded hardware and software solutions, etc etc.

If you rule out one site b/c of DDoS you'll simply run into it on another sooner or later on whatever other site you choose to play on. A better strategy might be to keep money on more than one site so that you can have an alternative site to play on should your favorite site be down. This also has the added benefit of giving you more game selection when both sites are fully functional.
Yes however, I am witnesssing more players talking about how they are having problems getting refunds from the sites even when the site is inadvertently and innocently attacked elsewhere via the DDoS leading to their disconnections/cancellations of MTTs. I see this on threads with Carbon, WPN etc...

If I cannot have any faith in mere renumeration (not pure withdrawal) and simply crediting cashier account when they should due to cancellations occurring, all bets are off (no pun intended) with a site. The LEAST a site should be obliged to do is credit players' accounts after their tourneys are cancelled. It is complete bull shi ite if they don't, hack attack or not being the case. Seems like a no brainer in the "integrity dept" of the poker site. I am also seeing the classic red flag of a few players getting longer and longer times taken when requesting cashouts from Carbon, WPN, and Full Flush. I have seen this story before - aka Lock Poker. Not saying it will spread into bigger problem just yet but one should just be wary and alert to that too now. Do not know how widespread or common yet a problem, but certainly I do not wish to be a potential other statistic again in this boat. Once burned twice shy.

Last edited by HurtLocker; 02-05-2015 at 08:12 PM.
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02-05-2015 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Tayek
does holdem indicator work on bovada?
100% it does.

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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
The LEAST a site should be obliged to do is credit players' accounts after their tourneys are cancelled. It is complete bull shi ite if they don't, hack attack or not being the case. Seems like a no brainer in the "integrity dept" of the poker site. I am also seeing the classic red flag of a few players getting longer and longer times taken when requesting cashouts from Carbon, WPN, and Full Flush. I have seen this story before - aka Lock Poker. Not saying it will spread into bigger problem just yet but one should just be wary and alert to that too now. Do not know how widespread or common yet a problem, but certainly I do not wish to be a potential other statistic again in this boat. Once burned twice shy.
All sites who cancel tournaments outright are refunding players those buy ins.

Comparing any of the above companies to Lock is just silly. All of them are paying out in a reasonable amount of time given the issues surrounding payment processing. FYI, every year since Black Friday, starting in December, payment processing slows down a bit industry wide. It doesn't speed back up again generally until a few weeks after the SuperBowl ends. It is a clogging of the payment processing pipes more or less, due to flood of money that hits the industry.

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Kahn
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02-06-2015 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
100% it does.



All sites who cancel tournaments outright are refunding players those buy ins.

Comparing any of the above companies to Lock is just silly. All of them are paying out in a reasonable amount of time given the issues surrounding payment processing. FYI, every year since Black Friday, starting in December, payment processing slows down a bit industry wide. It doesn't speed back up again generally until a few weeks after the SuperBowl ends. It is a clogging of the payment processing pipes more or less, due to flood of money that hits the industry.
I hope that you are correct and it is just DDoS attacks and nothing more and I am just silly. Nevertheless, please keep them honest and send us all a heads up via on this thread (among others), for instance, whenever any of the poker sites are not any longer. Sometimes it is hard to get consensus of the truth when reading about different player experiences with these unregulated sites. Thank you.

Last edited by HurtLocker; 02-06-2015 at 07:57 PM.
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02-07-2015 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
Yes however, I am witnesssing more players talking about how they are having problems getting refunds from the sites even when the site is inadvertently and innocently attacked elsewhere via the DDoS leading to their disconnections/cancellations of MTTs. I see this on threads with Carbon, WPN etc...

If I cannot have any faith in mere renumeration (not pure withdrawal) and simply crediting cashier account when they should due to cancellations occurring, all bets are off (no pun intended) with a site. The LEAST a site should be obliged to do is credit players' accounts after their tourneys are cancelled. It is complete bull shi ite if they don't, hack attack or not being the case. Seems like a no brainer in the "integrity dept" of the poker site. I am also seeing the classic red flag of a few players getting longer and longer times taken when requesting cashouts from Carbon, WPN, and Full Flush. I have seen this story before - aka Lock Poker. Not saying it will spread into bigger problem just yet but one should just be wary and alert to that too now. Do not know how widespread or common yet a problem, but certainly I do not wish to be a potential other statistic again in this boat. Once burned twice shy.
I've been playing at Carbon since BF. And yes, I also see that they slow down withdrawals. Is Carbion still safe? I have all my bankroll there.
Thinking about moving to Bovada. Didn't see any bad posts about it here.

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02-07-2015 , 08:42 PM
Hi all,

It's been forever since I've thought about playing online again. Do any of these U.S. facing sites have consistently running mixed games?
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02-07-2015 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggaboo
I've been playing at Carbon since BF. And yes, I also see that they slow down withdrawals. Is Carbion still safe? I have all my bankroll there.
Thinking about moving to Bovada. Didn't see any bad posts about it here.
i have read that you will need to fax a drivers license to bovada to cash out.

thanks
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02-09-2015 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lanteri87
Hi all,

It's been forever since I've thought about playing online again. Do any of these U.S. facing sites have consistently running mixed games?
Carbon is your best shot for mixed games. If you are willing to help start games, you'll find far more action.

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Kahn
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02-09-2015 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Carbon is your best shot for mixed games. If you are willing to help start games, you'll find far more action. ...
newbie here, what is a mixed game?

thanks
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02-09-2015 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Tayek
newbie here, what is a mixed game?

thanks
People of all creeds, color, ethnicities, persuasions, and religions playing poker together in perfect harmony.
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