I've done alot of research; I'm ultimately looking for Western Union deposit options, solid micro/low cash stakes traffic, and decent DoN SnG's.

Then it's very easy--Carbon poker. They have the cash and DoN traffic you're looking for and they accept WU. Actually when you use WU Carbon will add the transaction fee to your first deposit. So if you put in $100 and get charged $8 by WU, your Carbon account will show $108 instantly. Also, if you don't want to go to a physical WU location just sign up on WU online. Then you can use a credit or debit card to fund your WU transaction. You'll get a tracking number from WU and then when you go to Carbon's cashier to finish your deposit, you just input that tracking info you go from WU online. You don't even have to leave the house to make the deposit. Good luck at the tables.

I think you can get 60% RB on VietBet (they've advertised here on 2+2 in the past). And IIRC, RakeTheRake only promotes NJ/NV sites now

That was everything I needed Tropics...............appreciate the solid rec for cash traffic and DoNs. I was on the WU site earlier and saw the online option; that is right up my alley.

I'm still not sure what you think I don't understand.

I misunderstood your connecting statement because you said my statement that Intertops had both nice rewards AND poor traffic followed from Intertops having a lot of regs. It was unclear whether you were saying "more regs => nice rewards" or "more regs => low traffic" or both. Since you clarified by saying you meant "better rewards = tougher games" I agree with your assessment and already understood the connection. Your original post, by quoting my two statements and saying, "many people fail to see the connection between this and the statement below," seemed to imply that I am among those who fail to see the connection which I objected to.

As I stated in the last post, I understand completely why regs gravitate to sites with rewards - they are primarily interested in building a bankroll. Recreational players generally just want to have some fun gambling, win a few big pots and maybe make a big score. They may not be aware of how much they are paying in rake nor even that there is such a thing as rakeback.

Rec players go to sites where they won't get beat up (Merge, for instance, who limits winning players and pays no rakeback to attract regs) or they are protected (Bovada for instance, no HUDS that collect multisession databases, anonymous tables, and no rakeback). Regs go to sites where they can maximize their poker income (WPN and Revolution who offer good rakeback).

To circle back to my original point, it's a shame that Intertops has such poor traffic because they have nice rewards. I would play there even with the US regs and bad-aggressive Euros that are there now if there were a lot of games running.

No, they do not have 60% RB, but that is what is allowed advertising. They have the same rakeback formula that everyone else on GPN has. It is the SNGs where you either get 50% or 100% depending on whether you place first, or not 1st.

and yes, RTR is "legal" in the USA.

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Anyone have an opinion on PayNoRake? Aparently its part of the chico network, so the same thing as BOL that i play at but aparently awesome rakeback??

Sounds kinda to good to be true? Wondering why no one has recommended it to me, makes me think there is a reason?

Any comments good or bad?

1) It is not for US players.
2) It only pays out rakeback on a somewhat complicated scheme, based on days when you are a losing player.

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All the advertising, and most of the discussion, seems to focus on NL and tourneys...

Which of the US sites is the leader these days for limit games? Used to play a lot before the Full Tilt implosion, LHE, O8, Stud, HORSE...but got out of the habit for a long time and looking to get back in.

LHE = Bodog and Carbon
L08 = Bodog, Carbon and any of the Winning Poker Network skins
Stud = Carbon and any of the Winning Poker Network skins
HORSE = Carbon



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Anywhere Maryland residents can play online these days ? Been quite a while (year or so) since I even tried to register on one.

Head on back to the very first post in this thread, read that, and if you want some more discussion or feedback, then come back here to the end and try again.

I asked live support they still don't accept md players. So frustrating I don't wanna play on Bol with their crappy tournament structure

I'm in Maryland I play on Bet online. Seems the best option. There are a good amount of ring games going regularly. I made my first cash out a few days ago and had my cash in hand in under 30 hours. Would definitely recommend BOL. used a debut card to deposit through there voucher deposit option

Deposited $100 on FT. Ran it up. They stole it. DOJ emailed me at an inactive email so I lost it.

Deposited at Bodog. Ran it up. Withdraw in anger when they went anonymous.

Deposited at Lock. Ran it up. They stole it.

Redeposited at Bovada. Still loathe anonymous play.


Mostly cash NL and Omaha. Smattering of MTT.


What's my best option for moving in the US? Grinding micros currently.

Depending of course on what state you live in, which you haven't provided for us, Carbon would be the next largest site to play on, followed by Chico or the Winning Poker Network, then Full Flush Poker, next Intertops or Juicy Stakes on Revoulution, Grand Poker Network @ 5Dimes / Sportbet / Island Casino, and finally Seals With Clubs (bitcoin poker).

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That bites. Get off of Bovada. The anonymous tables are awful. The 4 cap tables are awful. The play is SLOW. The SOFTWARE is horrible.

I recommend Carbon. Plenty of games. No anonymous tables. Most players aren't capped and if you don't withdrawal a crazy amount or bumhunt at the highest stakes or have a crazy winstreak, you'll likely stay that way.

Which site, among bovada; chico; equity; or wpn, has the best freerolls. Best being defined as has the most players. Also who has the best attended low buy-in ($5 or less) MTTs and SnGs?

I still haven't gotten back to traditional online poker and my two recent forays into live tournaments has me jonesing pretty bad.

Doc u can wet your chops on the wpn freerolls,, they aren't really bankroll builders, but you can get back in the swing.

wow. great thread. thanks for all the info. i'll go with carbon

I am looking for a site that pays a decent rake back. Maybe a decent promotion would be fair for any usa site. A site that pays within a few weeks by check and the fees for payouts aren't out of hand.

I played on bovada nice traffic and my payouts were fine at first but they were canceling checks on my last few payouts. I called the bank and they said the checks were fine and the money was in my account but that someone was reversing the payment. So on my last check that cashed I had to close out my bank account and open a new bank account cause they tried to reverse it for the 3rd time... I don't know if it was some sort of error with their cash out process but I don't want to go through that again.

Good look at the tables everyone.

See http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...ates-rakeback/

Whats the best ways you guys have been depositing on Carbon? I was told Netspend Visa but No bueno so far....

^ Get one in your name, not the generic one from the store.

Also, try Western Union or Money Gram for best success.


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What is the best US website for a decent spread of PLO and NLHE at low-mid stakes? I'd prefer it had rakeback and/or provide cashouts in a timely manner. I'm currently on Bovada, but can't stand the anonymous tables and inability to use HUD/Holdem Manager.

Thanks