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02-28-2013 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by diabelb
Second video - dowód ostateczny

Now i recorded on FullHD screen so everything looks perfect. Watch on bigscreen in FullHd quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhYBm3yaIUA

isn't one limit and one NL?
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02-28-2013 , 04:04 PM
No.

bl = bez limitu = no limit

Don't know why TST reads them as limit. There isn't that many limit tables running, anyway.
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02-28-2013 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Fish might be able to see just a few of the winning players tables. They could do this so easily just by setting winning players can see xyz tables and losing players can see vxy or whatever.
It might be also that regs just don't see the quick seat tables. Many peoples reported that what they usually see are the regular fish there is almost no new fishy players. The recreational players don't table select at least the inexperienced one they will just click find me a seat aka the quick seat option.

So when fish click the quick seat option they will be seated on tables X Y Z that are visible only for other fish and bad regs and the tables that aren't avaliable for the reg if he scan the lobby or try the quick seat feature (cause he will be seated on tables A B C based on his rating).

Would be pretty reasonable explanation.
However thats just my educaated guess tho so hopefully Party_rep will come here soon and explain what is really goin on.
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02-28-2013 , 04:09 PM
instead of everyone posting this frustrating videos and screen shots over and over can we get a group of like 15 players and all post screen shots at a given server time. Maybe 4pm PST or another selected time? And lets just pick on stake, like maybe 200nl or 400nl cause there are a lot of tables there but not too many that it is overwhelming
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02-28-2013 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sapo23
I made a test today:

I run TST on PP lobby before login and after login. Same n.º of tables, same n.º of players, same fish.

So can we assume that there is no segregation, right?
Scan from about 10 minutes ago:

http://i.imgur.com/n4lFyQi.jpg <- Winning player(TST is on the right, friend uploaded both of his monitors for me)

http://imgur.com/a1s7cgT <- Losing player

I checked it against another winning players account who got the same scan. Whatever is going on if its a bug or them trying out a partial segregation thing its still going on.
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02-28-2013 , 04:14 PM
Hi All,

We are continually looking for ways to balance our poker room ecology. As we have said before, we are testing various features to make poker a more fun and entertaining game for both new and inexperienced players. Our extensive research shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges. These players are free to play on any table they chose.

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02-28-2013 , 04:17 PM
so why new opened accounts don't see those tables?
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02-28-2013 , 04:20 PM
"but is not limited to our welcome lounges"

So what are other options for new/inexperienced players?

As Henry Ford used to say: You can take any color if this color is black?
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02-28-2013 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi All,

We are continually looking for ways to balance our poker room ecology. As we have said before, we are testing various features to make poker a more fun and entertaining game for both new and inexperienced players. Our extensive research shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges. These players are free to play on any table they chose.

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this is a vague response, so is there or is there not segregated pools?
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02-28-2013 , 04:22 PM
So You just separating fishes from good players? : Eek:: Eek:: Eek:: Eek:
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02-28-2013 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi All,

We are continually looking for ways to balance our poker room ecology. As we have said before, we are testing various features to make poker a more fun and entertaining game for both new and inexperienced players. Our extensive research shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges. These players are free to play on any table they chose.

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Could you clarify what does it mean??? Cause it seem that my guess was right and you don't spread the new players using the quick seat feature across tables you just seat them at the special tables that only some people see (fish mostly) or I am compleately wrong here???

I mean could you cliarify in what ways /what features do you use to achieve the goal??? Can you confirm the special tables thing that aren't avaliable for most regs where now recreational players are headed????
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02-28-2013 , 04:23 PM
Vaguest response ever lol
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02-28-2013 , 04:27 PM
This looks really bad for them, but at least I noticed a lot more fish on today, although that could just be a result of it being Thursday
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02-28-2013 , 04:27 PM
if there is one way to drive away customers, it is to make them wait anxiously for a response, and then when they finally receive it, it is delivered as a politician would. I say, you should give players more benefit of doubt, usually we are not dumb and having to figure things out on our own will only cause a complete lack of trust with the site.
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02-28-2013 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi All,

We are continually looking for ways to balance our poker room ecology. As we have said before, we are testing various features to make poker a more fun and entertaining game for both new and inexperienced players. Our extensive research shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges. These players are free to play on any table they chose.

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So if i understand what your are talking about, you like oranges right?

I can tell you that i like oranges, chocolate and holidays.

Can you give a clear answer for the questions people made and stop talking about weather, food and other things? Or you didnt read the previus posts?
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02-28-2013 , 04:31 PM
i feel myself in Delphoi. what ll happen to the realm?

Last edited by lmr1983; 02-28-2013 at 04:54 PM.
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02-28-2013 , 04:34 PM
Plz dont become shady Party.We have so few reputable options out there.Yes I think Party was ok before the merger, now not so sure.
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02-28-2013 , 04:34 PM
I'd like to know how you decide which category we're in? How do we find out which category we have been placed in and is it possible to move?

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if there is one way to drive away customers, it is to make them wait anxiously for a response, and then when they finally receive it, it is delivered as a politician would. I say, you should give players more benefit of doubt, usually we are not dumb and having to figure things out on our own will only cause a complete lack of trust with the site.
+1
I'm assuming we are segregated now, if we're not you have handled this appallingly by not quashing this rumour.

If we are, not telling players or even the support staff of this change is really bad.
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02-28-2013 , 04:38 PM
It's illegal, it's discrimination!
Who decide who is experienced and who is not. You can not say to somebody you just use the handikapp toilet, because you have 1 leg.
Discrimination going here. I hope some organization, contact a lawyer.
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02-28-2013 , 04:38 PM
yes this is being handled horribly. Party traffic is bad enough, half the days i go to play now, I see only a few tables and just take the day off or play elsewhere. With this, I'll just move my roll and once a lot of us move our roll we won't come back.
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02-28-2013 , 04:41 PM
instead of segregating you should try killing ptr, and dataminers. stars became a bit more happier even for regulars i think without being tracked.

i just vomit when i see someone has 95k hand of sample of another player. but im also happy to see how often he is unable to use it. xaxaxa. and often i think he doesnot trash these samples out in time and makes him/herself to suck using an outdated one

also, check this profile

http://www.pokertableratings.com/par...rch/Que____bex

he sits in and out frequently, barely plays. i see him at least for a month ago at starting tables. despite of it, i barely played a hand with him, hm's vs player filter shows me we had played 20hands in this 1 month period, without a pot bigger than 20bb. hes extremely loose passive preflop, and has an extreme river agression. what can this be? a data miner, or someone who does tricks to get the button, and then does a hit and run? or the combination of these? as i know both has to be punished. take care problems like these.
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02-28-2013 , 04:45 PM
This is terrible news

Juk
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02-28-2013 , 04:50 PM
Countdown until they start rigging the RNG in favor of casual players...
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02-28-2013 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Our extensive research...
LOL good one

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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges.
Going to assume from here on that we are segregated unless there's some response explicitly saying there is none. The response is vague but you seem to want people to read into it that there is now segregation with that wording. Also this...

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These players are free to play on any table they chose.

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...is meaningless. Obviously they can choose any table they like. But are we meant to just assume it's from the same pool as everyone else without you explicitly saying? It seems like you would have if it were the case.

I hadn't really been convinced just by the screenshots posted in this thread so far, but that response is making me really start to think that it's true.
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02-28-2013 , 04:56 PM
PP ****ed all of us.
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